[DeTomaso] De Tomaso specific Wiki
Himes, Terry (397C)
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Mon Sep 14 15:56:42 EDT 2015
Yep. That's a hit. Built with MediaWiki. But very generalized car site. But a good example of something
that a person could easily search.
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on behalf of Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com<mailto:davel at emspace.com>>
Date: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:34 PM
To: POCA <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso specific Wiki
Is this relevant?
*wikicars*.org/en/De_Tomaso_*Pantera*
dave
On 14/09/2015 12:17 PM, The DeTomaso Registry Guy wrote:
There already is a Pantera (DeTomaso) specific Wiki.
I no longer remember which Pantera owner manages it.
No I no longer have the direct link.... an old computer died.
Chuck
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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Larry - Ohio Time
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:26 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Rob Dumoulin'; 'Himes, Terry 397C'
Cc: 'MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:'MikeLDrew at aol.com>'; 'Ken Green'; 'Jack Deryke'; mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>; 'De Tomaso List'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I think Terry is looking for the Wikipedia to share our vast knowledge of the history of DeTomaso / Pantera with the general public and us too. I feel it is important to record this information before it is lost. We have many people who have been to the plants, talked to everyone, photos, ect. What did we loose when Gary Hall passed on???
We have many resources (www.panteraplace.com) for more of the nutz and boltz stuff.
Larry (loves history) - Cleveland
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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 2:13 PM
To: Rob Dumoulin; Himes, Terry 397C
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Good idea, what you suggest is like a Pantera Owners website with a discussion forum where all that can be located, oh wait we have that and no one uses it......
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:48:52 -0400
From: rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>
To: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
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Terry,
I agree that a wiki approach for the Pantera would be great. Are you
suggesting adding topics to the global wikipedia are creating a private
wiki site?
Imagine if each of us could put in particular mods with part numbers and a
brief description of function/fit and the site was organized by system
(cooling, suspension, glass, transmission, brakes, A/C, interior, exterior,
electrical, etc.) and part (brake rotor, caliper, brake lines, master
cylinder, brake fluid).
I often wondered what all my options are for rebuilding a certain component
of my car (and I am close to having addressed every one of them so far) and
probably could have saved some time and money if such a knowledge base
existed. I certainly would have been able to make better decisions along
the way, at least when I did not pose a question to the group here..
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
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On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
Ya kow.. you guys are a encyclopedia of Pantera tribal knowledge. I was
thinking, since our Pantera's are going
to be around for a long time we should start WikiPedia for Pantera's. The
MediaWiki it's is built on is free. I set one
up for JPL and we use it to capture the same kind of tribal knowledge
about spaceflight. Hmmmm? Internally we
don't need it monitored and everyone is authenticated. But on the
Internet it would have to be monitored. I think
I head that Wikipedia gets 7000 updates every hour, 24/7. (I might not
remember correctly, but a lot) It wouldn't
be open to the public, but probably should use the POCA login. ?
Thoughts?
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Reply-To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:26 AM
To: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>
Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>, "jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>" <jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>>,
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I'm glad jack reminded us. It's Ron Wade who sells double rear
windows--presumably two pieces of safety glass. Your glass shop can
probably replicate that though?
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>> wrote:
That was my confusion last night with the replies.
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green <[4]kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>
wrote:
I thought standard automotive window glass wasA two layers of safety
glass with an adhesive between them?A
That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
filled gap between theA panes.
Ken
A
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A My glass had the same thickness as the original.A Maybe it isn't
double
A pane.A I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
A need double pane safety glass."
A The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
A perfect.A I broke it while I was reinstalling it.A That's why I
had to
A buy new glass in the first place.
A Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.A The shop is
Woodlands
A Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
A From: <[1][11]jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>>
A Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
A To: <[2][12]mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>>, Will Kooiman
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A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no
problems.
A And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
A cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
A big deal.
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
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A Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
A Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
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<[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>>] On Behalf Of
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To: mark skwarek
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I
had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.A Mine was
cracked, so
they could use it as a template.
It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
correctly.
On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
DeTomaso"
<[18][28]detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of
[19][29]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
wrote:
A Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
separate
A the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
Mark
A On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
<[20][30]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>> wrote:
A A FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
A A WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
sound deadening; I
A A have one.A Normally the rear window never gives
trouble except during
A A an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
place & contacts
A the
A A window during the pull.A One owner found that
Weber velocity stacks
A A also can break the glass during engine removals.
The window is sort
A of
A A part of the rear firewall, but in engine
fires, the glass invariably
A A shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
not degrade the "safety"
A A aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
so the rear legs of
A the
A A factory roll cage can extend though to the
rear fenders. One year at
A A Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
like this, and the
A SCTA
A A Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
window and substitute a
A thin
A A galvanized steel sheet!
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A A From: Rob Dumoulin <[1][21][31]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>
To: Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List <[2][22][32]DeTomaso at poca.com<mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>>
A A Sent: Thu, Sep
10, 2015 12:20 pm
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A Is there anything
special about the rear glass?AA It being flat makes
A A me
A think that I
would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
A A just for
A a
Pantera.
A A RobA
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Yep. That's a hit. Built with MediaWiki. But very generalized car
site. But a good example of something
that a person could easily search.
"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
to contact us!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
InSight Sequence Team Lead
Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Dave Londry
<[3]davel at emspace.com>
Date: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:34 PM
To: POCA <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso specific Wiki
Is this relevant?
*wikicars*.org/en/De_Tomaso_*Pantera*
dave
On 14/09/2015 12:17 PM, The DeTomaso Registry Guy wrote:
There already is a Pantera (DeTomaso) specific Wiki.
I no longer remember which Pantera owner manages it.
No I no longer have the direct link.... an old computer died.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Larry
- Ohio Time
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:26 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Rob Dumoulin'; 'Himes, Terry 397C'
Cc: [6]'MikeLDrew at aol.com'; 'Ken Green'; 'Jack Deryke';
[7]mbefthomas at comcast.net; 'De Tomaso List'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I think Terry is looking for the Wikipedia to share our vast knowledge
of the history of DeTomaso / Pantera with the general public and us
too. I feel it is important to record this information before it is
lost. We have many people who have been to the plants, talked to
everyone, photos, ect. What did we loose when Gary Hall passed on???
We have many resources (www.panteraplace.com) for more of the nutz and
boltz stuff.
Larry (loves history) - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Julian Kift
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 2:13 PM
To: Rob Dumoulin; Himes, Terry 397C
Cc: [9]MikeLDrew at aol.com; Ken Green; Jack Deryke;
[10]mbefthomas at comcast.net; De Tomaso List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Good idea, what you suggest is like a Pantera Owners website with a
discussion forum where all that can be located, oh wait we have that
and no one uses it......
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:48:52 -0400
From: [11]rob at dumoulins.net
To: [12]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
CC: [13]MikeLDrew at aol.com; [14]kenn_green at yahoo.com;
[15]jderyke at aol.com; [16]mbefthomas at comcast.net; [17]DeTomaso at poca.com
Terry,
I agree that a wiki approach for the Pantera would be great. Are you
suggesting adding topics to the global wikipedia are creating a private
wiki site?
Imagine if each of us could put in particular mods with part numbers
and a
brief description of function/fit and the site was organized by system
(cooling, suspension, glass, transmission, brakes, A/C, interior,
exterior,
electrical, etc.) and part (brake rotor, caliper, brake lines, master
cylinder, brake fluid).
I often wondered what all my options are for rebuilding a certain
component
of my car (and I am close to having addressed every one of them so far)
and
probably could have saved some time and money if such a knowledge base
existed. I certainly would have been able to make better decisions
along
the way, at least when I did not pose a question to the group here..
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[18]rob at dumoulins.net
www.kbsi.co
[19]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
[20]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
Ya kow.. you guys are a encyclopedia of Pantera tribal knowledge. I
was
thinking, since our Pantera's are going
to be around for a long time we should start WikiPedia for
Pantera's. The
MediaWiki it's is built on is free. I set one
up for JPL and we use it to capture the same kind of tribal knowledge
about spaceflight. Hmmmm? Internally we
don't need it monitored and everyone is authenticated. But on the
Internet it would have to be monitored. I think
I head that Wikipedia gets 7000 updates every hour, 24/7. (I might not
remember correctly, but a lot) It wouldn't
be open to the public, but probably should use the POCA login. ?
Thoughts?
*"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life *
* exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried*
* to contact us!"*
*Terry W. Himes *
*JPL** Jet Propulsion Laboratory*
*InSight Sequence Team Lead*
*Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead*
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[21]*thimes at jpl.nasa.gov <[22]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>*
From: DeTomaso <[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of POCA <
[24]detomaso at poca.com>
Reply-To: Mike Drew <[25]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:26 AM
To: Rob Dumoulin <[26]rob at dumoulins.net>
Cc: Ken Green <[27]kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "[28]jderyke at aol.com"
<[29]jderyke at aol.com>,
"[30]mbefthomas at comcast.net" <[31]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, POCA
<[32]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I'm glad jack reminded us. It's Ron Wade who sells double rear
windows--presumably two pieces of safety glass. Your glass shop can
probably replicate that though?
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39, Rob Dumoulin <[33]rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
That was my confusion last night with the replies.
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[1][34]rob at dumoulins.net
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[3][35]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green
<[4][36]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
wrote:
I thought standard automotive window glass wasA two layers of
safety
glass with an adhesive between them?A
That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a
gas
filled gap between theA panes.
Ken
A
__________________________________________________________________
From: Will Kooiman <[5][37]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: [6][38]jderyke at aol.com; [7][39]mbefthomas at comcast.net;
[8][40]ehpantera at yahoo.com; [9][41]rob at dumoulins.net;
[10][42]DeTomaso at poca.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A My glass had the same thickness as the original.A Maybe it
isn't
double
A pane.A I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said,
"Oh, you
A need double pane safety glass."
A The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it
looked
A perfect.A I broke it while I was reinstalling it.A That's why
I
had to
A buy new glass in the first place.
A Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.A The shop is
Woodlands
A Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
A From: <[1][11][43]jderyke at aol.com>
A Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
A To: <[2][12][44]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman
A <[3][13][45]will.kooiman at gmail.com>,
<[4][14][46]ehpantera at yahoo.com>,
A <[5][15][47]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6][16][48]DeTomaso at poca.com>
A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no
problems.
A And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into
the
A cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so
its no
A big deal.
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
A -----Original Message-----
A From: Mike Thomas <[7][17][49]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
A To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8][18][50]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; 'mark
skwarek'
A <[9][19][51]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; jderyke
<[10][20][52]jderyke at aol.com>; rob
A <[11][21][53]rob at dumoulins.net>; DeTomaso
<[12][22][54]DeTomaso at poca.com>
A Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
A Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
-----Original
Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[13][55]mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
<[23][56]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>] On Behalf Of
Will Kooiman
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
To: mark skwarek
<[14][24][57]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [15][25][58]jderyke at aol.com;
[16][26][59]rob at dumoulins.net;
[17][27][60]DeTomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I
had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.A Mine
was
cracked, so
they could use it as a template.
It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
correctly.
On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
DeTomaso"
<[18][28][61]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
[19][29][62]detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:
A Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
separate
A the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
Mark
A On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
<[20][30][63]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
A A FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
A A WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
sound deadening; I
A A have one.A Normally the rear window never gives
trouble except during
A A an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
place & contacts
A the
A A window during the pull.A One owner found that
Weber velocity stacks
A A also can break the glass during engine removals.
The window is sort
A of
A A part of the rear firewall, but in engine
fires, the glass invariably
A A shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
not degrade the "safety"
A A aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
so the rear legs of
A the
A A factory roll cage can extend though to the
rear fenders. One year at
A A Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
like this, and the
A SCTA
A A Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
window and substitute a
A thin
A A galvanized steel sheet!
-----Original Message-----
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A A Sent: Thu, Sep
10, 2015 12:20 pm
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A Is there anything
special about the rear glass?AA It being flat makes
A A me
A think that I
would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
A A just for
A a
Pantera.
A A RobA
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54. [260]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[261]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
55. [262]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[263]rob at dumoulins.net>
56. [264]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[265]DeTomaso at poca.com>
57. [266]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
<[267]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
58. [268]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
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59. [270]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[271]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
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61. [274]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[275]rob at dumoulins.net>
62. [276]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[277]DeTomaso at poca.com>
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66. [284]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[285]rob at dumoulins.net>
67. [286]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[287]DeTomaso at poca.com>
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2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
3. mailto:davel at emspace.com
4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
6. mailto:'MikeLDrew at aol.com
7. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
9. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
10. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
11. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
12. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
13. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
14. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
15. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
16. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
18. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
19. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
20. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
21. mailto:*thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
22. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
23. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
24. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
25. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
26. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
27. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
28. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
29. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
30. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
31. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
32. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
33. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
34. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
35. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
36. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
37. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
38. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
39. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
40. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
41. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
42. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
43. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
44. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
45. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
46. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
47. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
48. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
49. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
50. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
51. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
52. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
53. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
54. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
55. mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
56. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
57. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
58. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
59. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
60. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
61. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
62. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
63. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
64. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
65. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
66. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
67. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
68. mailto:[5][35]DeTomaso at poca.com
69. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
70. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
71. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
72. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
73. mailto:[39]rob at dumoulins.net
74. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
75. mailto:[40]DeTomaso at poca.com
76. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
77. mailto:[41]DeTomaso at poca.com
78. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
79. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
80. mailto:[43]DeTomaso at poca.com
81. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
82. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
83. mailto:[45]DeTomaso at poca.com
84. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
85. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
86. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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101. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
102. mailto:[57]mbefthomas at comcast.net
103. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
104. mailto:[58]will.kooiman at gmail.com
105. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
106. mailto:[59]ehpantera at yahoo.com
107. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
108. mailto:[60]jderyke at aol.com
109. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
110. mailto:[61]rob at dumoulins.net
111. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
112. mailto:[62]DeTomaso at poca.com
113. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
114. mailto:[63]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
115. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
116. mailto:[64]ehpantera at yahoo.com
117. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
118. mailto:[65]jderyke at aol.com
119. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
120. mailto:[66]rob at dumoulins.net
121. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
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145. mailto:[80]DeTomaso at poca.com
146. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
147. mailto:[81]DeTomaso at poca.com
148. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
149. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
150. mailto:[83]DeTomaso at poca.com
151. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
152. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
153. mailto:[85]DeTomaso at poca.com
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155. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
156. mailto:[87]DeTomaso at poca.com
157. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
158. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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162. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
163. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
164. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
165. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
166. http://www.kbsi.co/
167. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
168. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
169. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
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176. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
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178. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
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210. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
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212. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
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