[DeTomaso] FW: Pantera THERMOSTATS??

Thomas Törnblom tipo874 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 14 13:38:35 EDT 2015


Not a 351c thermostat.

It is enough to see them say it fits all engines to know that they are full of BS.

> 14 sep 2015 kl. 19:35 skrev LEVITT1946 at aol.com:
> 
> https://www.mustangsplus.com/Ford-Mustang-180-Degree-Milodon-High-Flow-Thermostat.html
>  
>  
>  
> In a message dated 9/14/2015 1:35:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tipo874 at gmail.com writes:
> The photos does not show a 351c thermostat.
> 
> > 14 sep 2015 kl. 19:22 skrev robert via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>:
> > 
> >   [1]http://www.jegs.com/i/Milodon/697/16401/10002/-1
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   In a message dated 9/14/2015 12:11:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >   cengles at cox.net writes:
> > 
> >     Dear Joseph,
> >                   FWIW, I use the Pantera Performance Center's modified
> >     restrictor in my engines.  It replaces the stock brass restrictor.
> >     I
> >     was under the impression that it permitted a Windsor thermostat to
> >     be
> >     used, which is more common and available than our dear Cleveland
> >     'stats.
> >     I wanted to make sure and I just called Dennis Quella.  He tells me
> >     that
> >     their modified restrictor permits use of any SBF (or sbc)
> >     thermostat.  I
> >     have used their restrictors for an accumulated total of approx 16-17
> >     Pantera years between both cars and I have no cooling problems.
> >                   So, the options would be to buy the rare Robert Shaw
> >     units
> >     at some premium price due to scarcity; buy the Car Quest unit
> >     recommended by Tim Meyer, a well known Cleveland expert or install
> >     the
> >     PPC unit.
> >                   The PPC unit is best installed during engine building
> >     on
> >     the stand.  It would be a PITA to do while in the Pantera, IMHO.  It
> >     is
> >     a small simple part, but awkward and tedious to do in the car.
> >                              Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >     On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. wrote:
> >> Sorry Michael, I am still not use to "reply to ALL"
> >> 
> >> I have falling to the internet despair of availability without
> >     even
> >> attempting to see what NAPA carried and paid a machinist ~$100 to
> >     make
> >> the proper configuration for the unique Cleveland design.  Even
> >     though
> >> it could be years before I needed one, I worried I couldn't find
> >     one
> >> latter
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> >     Michael
> >> Shortt
> >> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:10 AM
> >> To: Cullen McCann
> >> Cc: DeTomaso Forum
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera THERMOSTATS??
> >> 
> >> Crack does strange things to people.
> >> 
> >> Michael Shortt
> >> 
> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Cullen McCann
> >     <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >>>   Some one please enlighten me... I have seen this discussion on
> >     the
> >>> PI
> >>>   forum, and now I see them on eBay... please explain to me why
> >     a
> >>>   thermostat could be specific for a pantera, and thus cost
> >     275.00
> >>> for 6
> >>>   of them?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >     [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Robertshaw-thermostat-333-192-Pantera-For
> >     d-3
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >     51c-351m-400m-six-NOS-lot-/321864630277?hash=item4af0a08005&vxp=mtr
> >>>   Can you not just walk into NAPA or Oreillys and buy a
> >     thermostat
> >>> for a
> >>>   351c???? for like 8 bucks?
> >>>   Thank you,
> >>>   Cullen
> >>> 
> >>> References
> >>> 
> >>>   1.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >     http://www.ebay.com/itm/Robertshaw-thermostat-333-192-Pantera-Ford-3
> >     51
> >>> c-351m-400m-six-NOS-lot-/321864630277?hash=item4af0a08005&vxp=mtr
> >>> 
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> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Michael L. Shortt
> >> Savannah, Georgia
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> >> michael at michaelshortt.com
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   Not a 351c thermostat.

   It is enough to see them say it fits all engines to know that they are
   full of BS.

   14 sep 2015 kl. 19:35 skrev [1]LEVITT1946 at aol.com:

   [2]https://www.mustangsplus.com/Ford-Mustang-180-Degree-Milodon-High-Fl
   ow-Thermostat.html







   In a message dated 9/14/2015 1:35:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
   [3]tipo874 at gmail.com writes:

     The photos does not show a 351c thermostat.
     > 14 sep 2015 kl. 19:22 skrev robert via DeTomaso
     <[4]detomaso at poca.com>:
     >
     >   [1][5]http://www.jegs.com/i/Milodon/697/16401/10002/-1
     >
     >
     >
     >
     >
     >   In a message dated 9/14/2015 12:11:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight
     Time,
     >   [6]cengles at cox.net writes:
     >
     >     Dear Joseph,
     >                   FWIW, I use the Pantera Performance Center's
     modified
     >     restrictor in my engines.  It replaces the stock brass
     restrictor.
     >     I
     >     was under the impression that it permitted a Windsor
     thermostat to
     >     be
     >     used, which is more common and available than our dear
     Cleveland
     >     'stats.
     >     I wanted to make sure and I just called Dennis Quella.  He
     tells me
     >     that
     >     their modified restrictor permits use of any SBF (or sbc)
     >     thermostat.  I
     >     have used their restrictors for an accumulated total of approx
     16-17
     >     Pantera years between both cars and I have no cooling
     problems.
     >                   So, the options would be to buy the rare Robert
     Shaw
     >     units
     >     at some premium price due to scarcity; buy the Car Quest unit
     >     recommended by Tim Meyer, a well known Cleveland expert or
     install
     >     the
     >     PPC unit.
     >                   The PPC unit is best installed during engine
     building
     >     on
     >     the stand.  It would be a PITA to do while in the Pantera,
     IMHO.  It
     >     is
     >     a small simple part, but awkward and tedious to do in the car.
     >                              Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
     >     On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. wrote:
     >> Sorry Michael, I am still not use to "reply to ALL"
     >>
     >> I have falling to the internet despair of availability without
     >     even
     >> attempting to see what NAPA carried and paid a machinist ~$100 to
     >     make
     >> the proper configuration for the unique Cleveland design.  Even
     >     though
     >> it could be years before I needed one, I worried I couldn't find
     >     one
     >> latter
     >> -----Original Message-----
     >> From: DeTomaso [[7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
     >     Michael
     >> Shortt
     >> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:10 AM
     >> To: Cullen McCann
     >> Cc: DeTomaso Forum
     >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera THERMOSTATS??
     >>
     >> Crack does strange things to people.
     >>
     >> Michael Shortt
     >>
     >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Cullen McCann
     >     <[8]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
     >> wrote:
     >>
     >>>   Some one please enlighten me... I have seen this discussion on
     >     the
     >>> PI
     >>>   forum, and now I see them on eBay... please explain to me why
     >     a
     >>>   thermostat could be specific for a pantera, and thus cost
     >     275.00
     >>> for 6
     >>>   of them?
     >>>
     >>>
     >
     [1][9]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Robertshaw-thermostat-333-192-Pantera-
     For
     >     d-3
     >>>
     >>>
     >
     51c-351m-400m-six-NOS-lot-/321864630277?hash=item4af0a08005&vxp=mtr
     >>>   Can you not just walk into NAPA or Oreillys and buy a
     >     thermostat
     >>> for a
     >>>   351c???? for like 8 bucks?
     >>>   Thank you,
     >>>   Cullen
     >>>
     >>> References
     >>>
     >>>   1.
     >>>
     >>>
     >
     [10]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Robertshaw-thermostat-333-192-Pantera-Fo
     rd-3
     >     51
     >>>
     c-351m-400m-six-NOS-lot-/321864630277?hash=item4af0a08005&vxp=mtr
     >>>
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     >>
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     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >> Michael L. Shortt
     >> Savannah, Georgia
     >> [13]www.michaelshortt.com
     >> [14]michael at michaelshortt.com
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References

   1. mailto:LEVITT1946 at aol.com
   2. https://www.mustangsplus.com/Ford-Mustang-180-Degree-Milodon-High-Flow-Thermostat.html
   3. mailto:tipo874 at gmail.com
   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   5. http://www.jegs.com/i/Milodon/697/16401/10002/-1
   6. mailto:cengles at cox.net
   7. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
   8. mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com
   9. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Robertshaw-thermostat-333-192-Pantera-For
  10. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Robertshaw-thermostat-333-192-Pantera-Ford-3
  11. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  12. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  13. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
  14. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
  15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  16. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  19. http://www.jegs.com/i/Milodon/697/16401/10002/-1
  20. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  21. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com


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