[DeTomaso] Rear Glass

Himes, Terry (397C) terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Mon Sep 14 01:07:43 EDT 2015


No I haven't.  Sounds great….  but.  Excel spreadsheets are not a good way to centralize knowledge.  In fact down-right
bad way to go, in the long run.  Not knocking the effort, it's actually the way to get started.  But converting that
into a centralized database that could easily be updated by many, would be better.

Again, you guys are great and I love the shared knowledge.

Just thinking out loud here.


"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
  exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
  to contact us!"

Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
InSight Sequence Team Lead
Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
Fax:     (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
🇺🇸

From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:22 PM
To: Terry Himes <Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
Cc: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>, "jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>" <jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>>, "mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>" <mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>>, POCA <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass

Terry,

I think Bill Taylor's excel-based file fills the bill nicely, at least from a technical standpoint. Have you used it?

Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2015, at 19:07, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:

Ya kow.. you guys are a encyclopedia of Pantera tribal knowledge.  I was thinking, since our Pantera's are going
to be around for a long time we should start WikiPedia for Pantera's.  The MediaWiki it's is built on is free.   I set one
up for JPL and we use it to capture the same kind of tribal knowledge about spaceflight.   Hmmmm?   Internally we
don't need it monitored and everyone is authenticated.   But on the Internet it would have to be monitored.  I think
I head that Wikipedia gets 7000 updates every hour, 24/7.  (I might not remember correctly, but a lot)   It wouldn't
be open to the public, but probably should use the POCA login. ?

Thoughts?



"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
  exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
  to contact us!"

Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
InSight Sequence Team Lead
Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
Fax:     (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
🇺🇸

From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on behalf of POCA <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Reply-To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:26 AM
To: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>
Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>, "jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>" <jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>>, "mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>" <mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>>, POCA <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass

I'm glad jack reminded us. It's Ron Wade who sells double rear windows--presumably two pieces of safety glass. Your glass shop can probably replicate that though?

Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>> wrote:

   That was my confusion last night with the replies.
   Rob DuMoulin
   904.476.8744
   [1]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>
   [2]www.kbsi.co<http://www.kbsi.co>
   [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green <[4]kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>
   wrote:
   I thought standard automotive window glass wasA two layers of safety
   glass with an adhesive between them?A
   That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
   filled gap between theA panes.
   Ken
   A
     __________________________________________________________________
   From: Will Kooiman <[5]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
   To: [6]jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>; [7]mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>;
   [8]ehpantera at yahoo.com<mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [9]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>; [10]DeTomaso at poca.com<mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
   A  My glass had the same thickness as the original.A  Maybe it isn't
   double
   A  pane.A  I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
   A  need double pane safety glass."
   A  The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
   A  perfect.A  I broke it while I was reinstalling it.A  That's why I
   had to
   A  buy new glass in the first place.
   A  Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.A  The shop is
   Woodlands
   A  Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
   A  From: <[1][11]jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>>
   A  Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
   A  To: <[2][12]mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>>, Will Kooiman
   A  <[3][13]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>, <[4][14]ehpantera at yahoo.com<mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com>>,
   A  <[5][15]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>, <[6][16]DeTomaso at poca.com<mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>>
   A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
   A  Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no
   problems.
   A  And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
   A  cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
   A  big deal.
   Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
   A  -----Original Message-----
   A  From: Mike Thomas <[7][17]mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>>
   A  To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8][18]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>; 'mark skwarek'
   A  <[9][19]ehpantera at yahoo.com<mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com>>; jderyke <[10][20]jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>>; rob
   A  <[11][21]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>; DeTomaso <[12][22]DeTomaso at poca.com<mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>>
   A  Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
   A  Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
   Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
   -----Original
   Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[13]mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   Will Kooiman
   Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
   To: mark skwarek
   <[14][24]ehpantera at yahoo.com<mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com>>; [15][25]jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>;
   [16][26]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>;
   [17][27]DeTomaso at poca.com<mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
   I
   had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.A  Mine was
   cracked, so
   they could use it as a template.
   It was cheap too - under $100, if I
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   No I haven't.  Sounds great....  but.  Excel spreadsheets are not a
   good way to centralize knowledge.  In fact down-right
   bad way to go, in the long run.  Not knocking the effort, it's actually
   the way to get started.  But converting that
   into a centralized database that could easily be updated by many, would
   be better.
   Again, you guys are great and I love the shared knowledge.
   Just thinking out loud here.

   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life

     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

     to contact us!"

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   InSight Sequence Team Lead

   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: Mike Drew <[2]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   Date: Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:22 PM
   To: Terry Himes <[3]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   Cc: Rob Dumoulin <[4]rob at dumoulins.net>, Ken Green
   <[5]kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "[6]jderyke at aol.com" <[7]jderyke at aol.com>,
   "[8]mbefthomas at comcast.net" <[9]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, POCA
   <[10]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass

   Terry,
   I think Bill Taylor's excel-based file fills the bill nicely, at least
   from a technical standpoint. Have you used it?
   Mike
   Sent from my iPhone
   On Sep 13, 2015, at 19:07, "Himes, Terry (397C)"
   <[11]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

   Ya kow.. you guys are a encyclopedia of Pantera tribal knowledge.  I
   was thinking, since our Pantera's are going
   to be around for a long time we should start WikiPedia for Pantera's.
   The MediaWiki it's is built on is free.   I set one
   up for JPL and we use it to capture the same kind of tribal knowledge
   about spaceflight.   Hmmmm?   Internally we
   don't need it monitored and everyone is authenticated.   But on the
   Internet it would have to be monitored.  I think
   I head that Wikipedia gets 7000 updates every hour, 24/7.  (I might not
   remember correctly, but a lot)   It wouldn't
   be open to the public, but probably should use the POCA login. ?
   Thoughts?

   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life

     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

     to contact us!"

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   InSight Sequence Team Lead

   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [12]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of POCA
   <[14]detomaso at poca.com>
   Reply-To: Mike Drew <[15]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:26 AM
   To: Rob Dumoulin <[16]rob at dumoulins.net>
   Cc: Ken Green <[17]kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "[18]jderyke at aol.com"
   <[19]jderyke at aol.com>, "[20]mbefthomas at comcast.net"
   <[21]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, POCA <[22]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
   I'm glad jack reminded us. It's Ron Wade who sells double rear
   windows--presumably two pieces of safety glass. Your glass shop can
   probably replicate that though?
   Mike
   Sent from my iPhone
   On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39, Rob Dumoulin <[23]rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:

      That was my confusion last night with the replies.

      Rob DuMoulin

      904.476.8744

      [1][24]rob at dumoulins.net

      [2][25]www.kbsi.co

      [3][26]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58

      On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green
   <[4][27]kenn_green at yahoo.com>

      wrote:

      I thought standard automotive window glass wasA two layers of safety

      glass with an adhesive between them?A

      That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a
   gas

      filled gap between theA panes.

      Ken

      A

        __________________________________________________________________

      From: Will Kooiman <[5][28]will.kooiman at gmail.com>

      To: [6][29]jderyke at aol.com; [7][30]mbefthomas at comcast.net;

      [8][31]ehpantera at yahoo.com; [9][32]rob at dumoulins.net;
   [10][33]DeTomaso at poca.com

      Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM

      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass

      A  My glass had the same thickness as the original.A  Maybe it isn't

      double

      A  pane.A  I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh,
   you

      A  need double pane safety glass."

      A  The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked

      A  perfect.A  I broke it while I was reinstalling it.A  That's why I

      had to

      A  buy new glass in the first place.

      A  Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.A  The shop is

      Woodlands

      A  Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.

      A  From: <[1][11][34]jderyke at aol.com>

      A  Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM

      A  To: <[2][12][35]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman

      A  <[3][13][36]will.kooiman at gmail.com>,
   <[4][14][37]ehpantera at yahoo.com>,

      A  <[5][15][38]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6][16][39]DeTomaso at poca.com>

      A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass

      A  Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no

      problems.

      A  And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into
   the

      A  cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its
   no

      A  big deal.

      Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?

      A  -----Original Message-----

      A  From: Mike Thomas <[7][17][40]mbefthomas at comcast.net>

      A  To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8][18][41]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; 'mark
   skwarek'

      A  <[9][19][42]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; jderyke
   <[10][20][43]jderyke at aol.com>; rob

      A  <[11][21][44]rob at dumoulins.net>; DeTomaso
   <[12][22][45]DeTomaso at poca.com>

      A  Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm

      A  Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass

      Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?

      -----Original

      Message-----

      From: DeTomaso [[13][46]mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
   Behalf Of

      Will Kooiman

      Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM

      To: mark skwarek

      <[14][24][47]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [15][25][48]jderyke at aol.com;

      [16][26][49]rob at dumoulins.net;

      [17][27][50]DeTomaso at poca.com

      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass

      I

      had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.A  Mine was

      cracked, so

      they could use it as a template.

      It was cheap too - under $100, if I

References

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