[DeTomaso] Battery Tenders

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 11 23:39:53 EDT 2015


If you try to use a conventional charger with an Optima (or I assume any AMG battery) battery you can get a false "Bad Battery" indication from a good battery.  The indication is because the charger senses a voltage so low, that it would indicate that a conventional battery has experienced a catastrophic failure.
The Optima battery can show the same low voltage and still be good.  You either need to use a charge that had an AMG battery setting, or fool the conventional charger by connecting a good battery in parallel to get the charger started.  But if you trick a conventional charger I have read you can over charge an AMG battery.
Ken
       From: Michael Arias via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
 To: 'Michael Shortt' <michaelsavga at gmail.com>; 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift at hotmail.com> 
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 Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Tenders
   
Darn, this thread is two weeks too late.  7 month old Red Optima, Pantera sits for two weeks, might have left the courtesy light on, maybe not.  No charge this afternoon, thankfully I just purchased an emergency starter battery, because after I got it started I drove it around for half hour, went to gas station and after filling up - nothing, not even a whir, blatt, click.  That battery was deader than any Walking Dead Zombie.  Got home (brought that emergency battery with me).  Put the Red Top on the battery charger and after 10 minutes its flashing "Bad Bat" which I assume means bad battery.  Needless to say, I am very disappointed and will be having a discussion with Auto Parts this weekend, if I can find my receipt.

Mike Arias,
Miami FL

PS,  Going on the Patriot Run, from Tropical Park Miami to Isla Morada (south of Key Largo), about 80 miles each way, it's supposed to be in honor of 9/11 and is supposed to be composed of Muscle Cars and Hotrods (last year it was about 200 mustangs)  I emailed the organizer and said Pantera OK? And he emailed back O HELL YES.  Taking that emergency battery with me (using the spare Red Top that was laying around in the garage and was holding a charge).

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Michael Shortt
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:26 PM
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Tenders

I have used the BT Plus with various Red Tops for 10 years with no issues,

Michael Shortt

It stays on it when parked 100%

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>    There ain't nothing in the World that will make an Optima battery keep
>    it's charge!
>
>    Yes, I have C-TEK chargers on all my vehicles, they work with wet cell
>    (gel) and dry cell batteries.
>
>    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 20:14:54 +0000
>    To: tipo874 at gmail.com; lotus0005 at hotmail.com
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Tenders
>    From: detomaso at poca.com
>    CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Do they work with a gel battery like the Optima?
> Ken
>        From: Thomas TAP:rnblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>
>  To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: POCA <detomaso at poca.com>
>  Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:28 PM
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Tenders
>
> [1]
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006G14FK8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1441999382
> &sr=8-1 I=SX200_QL40&keywords=ctek&dpPl=1&dpID=41SoAaxC2XL&ref=plSrch
>
> Both charger and tender.
>
> I have  CTEK with a lighter plug that I connect to the Pantera 
> whenever it is pa rked in the garage.
>
> Thomas
>
> > 11 sep 2015 kl. 21:11 skrev Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>:
> >
> >  I'm keeping my eye out for Battery Tenders on sale - if anyone 
> > finds  them, please let us all know.  Thanks, BILL Lewis
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   If you try to use a conventional charger with an Optima (or I assume
   any AMG battery) battery you can get a false "Bad Battery" indication
   from a good battery.  The indication is because the charger senses a
   voltage so low, that it would indicate that a conventional battery has
   experienced a catastrophic failure.
   The Optima battery can show the same low voltage and still be
   good.  You either need to use a charge that had an AMG battery setting,
   or fool the conventional charger by connecting a good battery in
   parallel to get the charger started.  But if you trick a conventional
   charger I have read you can over charge an AMG battery.
   Ken
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Michael Arias via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   To: 'Michael Shortt' <michaelsavga at gmail.com>; 'Julian Kift'
   <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Cc: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; 'De Tomaso List'
   <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:29 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Tenders
   Darn, this thread is two weeks too late.  7 month old Red Optima,
   Pantera sits for two weeks, might have left the courtesy light on,
   maybe not.  No charge this afternoon, thankfully I just purchased an
   emergency starter battery, because after I got it started I drove it
   around for half hour, went to gas station and after filling up -
   nothing, not even a whir, blatt, click.  That battery was deader than
   any Walking Dead Zombie.  Got home (brought that emergency battery with
   me).  Put the Red Top on the battery charger and after 10 minutes its
   flashing "Bad Bat" which I assume means bad battery.  Needless to say,
   I am very disappointed and will be having a discussion with Auto Parts
   this weekend, if I can find my receipt.
   Mike Arias,
   Miami FL
   PS,  Going on the Patriot Run, from Tropical Park Miami to Isla Morada
   (south of Key Largo), about 80 miles each way, it's supposed to be in
   honor of 9/11 and is supposed to be composed of Muscle Cars and Hotrods
   (last year it was about 200 mustangs)  I emailed the organizer and said
   Pantera OK? And he emailed back O HELL YES.  Taking that emergency
   battery with me (using the spare Red Top that was laying around in the
   garage and was holding a charge).
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   Michael Shortt
   Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:26 PM
   To: Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Cc: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>; De Tomaso List
   <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Tenders
   I have used the BT Plus with various Red Tops for 10 years with no
   issues,
   Michael Shortt
   It stays on it when parked 100%
   On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Julian Kift
   <[5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:
   >    There ain't nothing in the World that will make an Optima battery
   keep
   >    it's charge!
   >
   >    Yes, I have C-TEK chargers on all my vehicles, they work with wet
   cell
   >    (gel) and dry cell batteries.
   >
   >    Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 20:14:54 +0000
   >    To: [6]tipo874 at gmail.com; [7]lotus0005 at hotmail.com
   >    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Tenders
   >    From: [8]detomaso at poca.com
   >    CC: [9]detomaso at poca.com
   > Do they work with a gel battery like the Optima?
   > Ken
   >        From: Thomas TAP:rnblom <[10]tipo874 at gmail.com>
   >  To: Bill Lewis <[11]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
   > Cc: POCA <[12]detomaso at poca.com>
   >  Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:28 PM
   >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Tenders
   >
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   >
   [13]http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006G14FK8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1441999
   382
   > &sr=8-1 I=SX200_QL40&keywords=ctek&dpPl=1&dpID=41SoAaxC2XL&ref=plSrch
   >
   > Both charger and tender.
   >
   > I have  CTEK with a lighter plug that I connect to the Pantera
   > whenever it is pa rked in the garage.
   >
   > Thomas
   >
   > > 11 sep 2015 kl. 21:11 skrev Bill Lewis <[14]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>:
   > >
   > >  I'm keeping my eye out for Battery Tenders on sale - if anyone
   > > finds  them, please let us all know.  Thanks, BILL Lewis
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