[DeTomaso] IR FI system
Ken Green
kenn_green at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 19 13:19:36 EDT 2015
It appears that Speedmaster is a new Procomp line. If you look up Procomp and law suits you get an idea of how they operate. I suspect this is all made in China and would worry most about the throttle bodies.
If you google Speedmaster reviews, they are not very positive.
Ken
From: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
To: Daniel C Jones <daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com>
Cc: POCA list <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] IR FI system
I was also looking at the same system for the 351W. The price is very
appealing, considering that most other downdraft EFI systems are 3500
bucks plus management. I know you "get what you pay for" but its hard
not to try it, and the risk seems.. "low" in a way. I certainly
wouldn't keep from buying it simply because "anything that cheap must
be a piece of junk". its not ALWAYS true.
The 351C system shown in your link is 1365.00.A Consider the 351W
system on ebay, distributed by speedmaster is less than 1100.00. But
obviously the vertical stacks might require cutting the deck. I like it
when they stick out of the deck, rain and all. Super sex appeal, even
if they do run like crap.
here is a link:
[1]351W speedmaster system on ebay
or this one if that doesn't work:A
[2]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-351W-Windsor-Down-Draft-EFI-Stack-Intak
e-Manifold-System-Complete-Satin-/201449143138?hash=item2ee74dfb62:g:un
cAAOSw14xWHvjZ&vxp=mtr
Also, I know most people don't care or believe the ebay system holds
any "merit" or credibility for customer confidence, but in a way, I
disagree. Speedmaster currently has 99.6% positive feedback on ebay
with over 53 THOUSAND transactions. that means... specifically, that
53,600 people bought something from them on eBay and had positive
things to say.
That being said.... I'm sure they might be giving their "feedback"
before installing the system or something...but contrary to what some
people think, you cannot "fake" the feedback rating on ebay. If you
could, I would have done it by now. Either people are positive about
your sales reputation or they aren't. period. (I've been a power seller
on ebay for 15 years....and this isn'tA a scam) EBay's customer service
sucks.... no doubt about it, but the transaction feedback rating system
is real and it works like its supposed to.
In closing, I put 100 percent confidence into what Dan says about his
experience dyno tuning procomp products.A I have a family member who
build street rods and he says the same thing. He also says that it
depends on what you buy. They are hit and miss. Some parts seem to work
great but some are cheap and dont perform or install as expected. But
Ill be honest... Id be willing to try it if I thought I could save 4
grand or something and have that sexy system. Maybe your motor makes
500 horse instead of 550...and you saved 4 grand. Maybe you pick a
different management system and keep the speedmaster hardware. Its just
a matter of weighing options and your budget, IMO.
I'll be buying one of the Windsor systems in the next year or so...I'll
let you know if I get anywhere with it.
Cullen
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Daniel C Jones
<[3]daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com> wrote:
A A > I realize it comes without ECU and injectors, but looks
really nice
A A and seems very well priced.
A A Speedmaster is the company formerly known as Procomp.AA
Procomp earned
A A such a bad reputation they had to rename the company.AA We
dyno tested
A A the Procomp copy of the CHI Cleveland heads and they were 50 HP
down on
A A a 351C to the real CHI heads and 20 HP down to the OEM cast
iron
A A Cleveland heads.
A A Dan Jones
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1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-351W-Windsor-Down-Draft-EFI-Stack-Intake-Manifold-System-Complete-Satin-/201449143138?hash=item2ee74dfb62:g:uncAAOSw14xWHvjZ&vxp=mtr
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It appears that Speedmaster is a new Procomp line. If you look up
Procomp and law suits you get an idea of how they operate. I suspect
this is all made in China and would worry most about the throttle
bodies.
If you google Speedmaster reviews, they are not very positive.
Ken
__________________________________________________________________
From: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
To: Daniel C Jones <daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com>
Cc: POCA list <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] IR FI system
I was also looking at the same system for the 351W. The price is very
appealing, considering that most other downdraft EFI systems are 3500
bucks plus management. I know you "get what you pay for" but its hard
not to try it, and the risk seems.. "low" in a way. I certainly
wouldn't keep from buying it simply because "anything that cheap must
be a piece of junk". its not ALWAYS true.
The 351C system shown in your link is 1365.00.A Consider the 351W
system on ebay, distributed by speedmaster is less than 1100.00. But
obviously the vertical stacks might require cutting the deck. I like
it
when they stick out of the deck, rain and all. Super sex appeal, even
if they do run like crap.
here is a link:
[1]351W speedmaster system on ebay
or this one if that doesn't work:A
[2][1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-351W-Windsor-Down-Draft-EFI-Stack-In
tak
e-Manifold-System-Complete-Satin-/201449143138?hash=item2ee74dfb62:g:un
cAAOSw14xWHvjZ&vxp=mtr
Also, I know most people don't care or believe the ebay system holds
any "merit" or credibility for customer confidence, but in a way, I
disagree. Speedmaster currently has 99.6% positive feedback on ebay
with over 53 THOUSAND transactions. that means... specifically, that
53,600 people bought something from them on eBay and had positive
things to say.
That being said.... I'm sure they might be giving their "feedback"
before installing the system or something...but contrary to what some
people think, you cannot "fake" the feedback rating on ebay. If you
could, I would have done it by now. Either people are positive about
your sales reputation or they aren't. period. (I've been a power
seller
on ebay for 15 years....and this isn'tA a scam) EBay's customer
service
sucks.... no doubt about it, but the transaction feedback rating
system
is real and it works like its supposed to.
In closing, I put 100 percent confidence into what Dan says about his
experience dyno tuning procomp products.A I have a family member who
build street rods and he says the same thing. He also says that it
depends on what you buy. They are hit and miss. Some parts seem to
work
great but some are cheap and dont perform or install as expected. But
Ill be honest... Id be willing to try it if I thought I could save 4
grand or something and have that sexy system. Maybe your motor makes
500 horse instead of 550...and you saved 4 grand. Maybe you pick a
different management system and keep the speedmaster hardware. Its
just
a matter of weighing options and your budget, IMO.
I'll be buying one of the Windsor systems in the next year or
so...I'll
let you know if I get anywhere with it.
Cullen
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Daniel C Jones
<[3][2]daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com> wrote:
A A > I realize it comes without ECU and injectors, but looks
really nice
A A and seems very well priced.
A A Speedmaster is the company formerly known as Procomp.AA
Procomp earned
A A such a bad reputation they had to rename the company.AA We
dyno tested
A A the Procomp copy of the CHI Cleveland heads and they were 50
HP
down on
A A a 351C to the real CHI heads and 20 HP down to the OEM cast
iron
A A Cleveland heads.
A A Dan Jones
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e-Manifold-System-Complete-Satin-/201449143138?hash=item2ee74dfb62:g:un
cAAOSw14xWHvjZ&vxp=mtr
2.
[6]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-351W-Windsor-Down-Draft-EFI-Stack-Intak
e-Manifold-System-Complete-Satin-/201449143138?hash=item2ee74dfb62:g:un
cAAOSw14xWHvjZ&vxp=mtr
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6. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-351W-Windsor-Down-Draft-EFI-Stack-Intake-Manifold-System-Complete-Satin-/201449143138?hash=item2ee74dfb62:g:uncAAOSw14xWHvjZ&vxp=mtr
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