[DeTomaso] Techno question: a fine mess--update

Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. byrdjf at embarqmail.com
Sun Oct 11 10:04:47 EDT 2015


Just tossing out thoughts...I had a thermostat that "chattered" once.

If it does come back during the first drive, could you record and post as a
.WAV?

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Engles
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 9:50 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'De Tomaso List'
Cc: MikeLDrew at aol.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: a fine mess--update

Dear Long Distance Mechanics,

 

 

                   This morning the test drive without the AC belt is first.
If the noise persists, then I while the engine is warm, which is when the
noise most commonly occurs, then the alternator belt comes off.

 

                    I failed to mention that the mechanical and garden hose
stethoscopes both reveal essentially silent water pump, alternator body, AC
compressor and block.

 

 

                                          Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

 

 

 

 

From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:36 PM
To: Charles Engles; De Tomaso List
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Techno question: a fine mess--update

 

Charles,

 

Have you systematically removed one belt at a time and run the engine, to
narrow down the source?

 

Julian

> From: cengles at cox.net
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:30:23 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: a fine mess--update
> 
> Dear Forum,
> 
> 
> It is still a fine mess. The gremlins are well entrenched. At this 
> point, I have:
> 
> 1) ascertained that the balancer isn't hitting the block or pan
> 
> 2) been unable to localize precisely the noise source despite the
mechanic's
> stethoscope or the garden hose stethoscope (it actually works a little 
> better in this instance, but still not a success). It is coming from 
> the front of the engine-belt area.
> 
> 3) replaced the alternator: no change and now the ammeter needle 
> bounces
> 
> 4) ascertained that I do have an electronic voltage regulator from 
> Motorcraft
> 
> 5) replaced both belts: no change other than a slight decrease in 
> loudness and slightly different quality to the noise
> 
> 6) replaced the idler pulley: no change. Sigh. The old pulley does 
> feel like the bearing is starting to go out compared to the smoothness 
> of the replacement, but still no noise silencing with the change.
> 
> 
> I am perturbed. I have removed the new AC belt and I will test again 
> tomorrow to see if I have finally localized the noise maker. I am 
> thinking about trying some of the belt treatments for squeaking since 
> I
have
> replaced *everything* at this point.
> 
> 
> With apologies to Mr. Friedman's famous quote: " Sadder, older, wiser, 
> I go now, seeking through faith and reason combined the answer to this 
> baffling pageant which is the Pantera and the small by play, which is 
> my amateur wrenching."
> 
> 
> Philosophically yours, Chuck Engles
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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