[DeTomaso] 15.300 USD Pantera on Ebay yesterday

Michael Shortt michaelsavga at gmail.com
Thu Oct 8 17:32:38 EDT 2015 

Is there any trace of the original color on that thing, 1974 US GTS models
only came in three colors,

60 were Silver/Black, 60 were Burgundy/Black and 30 were Yellow/Gold /Black

Michael Shortt

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:23 PM, E B <mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> That hole doesn't look like it's in the right place. I have a 74 U.S. GTS
> and I don't remember the clock hole being that close to the dash vent. I'll
> know for sure in a couple hours when I get home but I believe the clock on
> a U.S. GTS is directly in front of the passenger. Also, the hole looks
> kinda crude.
>
> Not to mention the U.S. GTSs do not have the Isis (DeTomaso insignia) in
> the speedometer and tach like this one does.
>
> Which isn't to say they haven't been changed, but only the U.S. GTSs have
> GT in the VIN.
>
> Regards,
> Emiliano in Albuquerque
>
> 5910 L
> 7205 GTS
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Patrick HALS <patrickhals at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   Does anyone have info an that Pantera rolling chassis that went for
>   15.000 USD or so on Ebay yesterday ?A
>   Look at the pictures, and you'll immediately notice there is a hole in
>   the dashboard for a ... clock ! Clocks were found only ( not quite sure
>   ) on GTS models, both EU and US..
>   I was quite interested to see how things went, because it has an
>   alleged original dashboard ( so described by the seller ) A that looks
>   like an original GTS dashboard.
>   Does anyone know the VIN ? How can I identify for sure an L model from
>   a GTS ( US or EU ) model, apart from when there is an original
>   dashboard with a " GTS clock" .... Chuck ? Mike ? Any specific chassis
>   info ?A
>   This period was a shadowy period, as GTS 1974 models were discarded at
>   smog tests emission control in California in 1974, so de Tomaso decided
>   to put all remaining "old" 1973 chassis A as 1973, and not 1974, ( and
>   no one seems to know which was what, or what type it was ... )
>   I have an original Bill Van Ess registry in my archives, but it makes
>   things no clearer.... A
>   Enjoy digging A :>)))
>   Thank you all !
>   Pat ( Candy 2862 sleeping A - ADA 9628 at the ICU )A
> <Front left.JPG>
> <Dashboard.JPG>
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   Is there any trace of the original color on that thing, 1974 US GTS
   models only came in three colors,
   60 were Silver/Black, 60 were Burgundy/Black and 30 were Yellow/Gold
   /Black
   Michael Shortt

   On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:23 PM, E B <[1]mghibli7 at hotmail.com> wrote:

     Patrick,
     That hole doesn't look like it's in the right place. I have a 74
     U.S. GTS and I don't remember the clock hole being that close to the
     dash vent. I'll know for sure in a couple hours when I get home but
     I believe the clock on a U.S. GTS is directly in front of the
     passenger. Also, the hole looks kinda crude.
     Not to mention the U.S. GTSs do not have the Isis (DeTomaso
     insignia) in the speedometer and tach like this one does.
     Which isn't to say they haven't been changed, but only the U.S. GTSs
     have GT in the VIN.
     Regards,
     Emiliano in Albuquerque
     5910 L
     7205 GTS
     Sent from my iPhone

   On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Patrick HALS <[2]patrickhals at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   A  Does anyone have info an that Pantera rolling chassis that went for
   A  15.000 USD or so on Ebay yesterday ?A
   A  Look at the pictures, and you'll immediately notice there is a hole
   in
   A  the dashboard for a ... clock ! Clocks were found only ( not quite
   sure
   A  ) on GTS models, both EU and US..
   A  I was quite interested to see how things went, because it has an
   A  alleged original dashboard ( so described by the seller ) A that
   looks
   A  like an original GTS dashboard.
   A  Does anyone know the VIN ? How can I identify for sure an L model
   from
   A  a GTS ( US or EU ) model, apart from when there is an original
   A  dashboard with a " GTS clock" .... Chuck ? Mike ? Any specific
   chassis
   A  info ?A
   A  This period was a shadowy period, as GTS 1974 models were discarded
   at
   A  smog tests emission control in California in 1974, so de Tomaso
   decided
   A  to put all remaining "old" 1973 chassis A as 1973, and not 1974, (
   and
   A  no one seems to know which was what, or what type it was ... )
   A  I have an original Bill Van Ess registry in my archives, but it
   makes
   A  things no clearer.... A
   A  Enjoy digging A :>)))
   A  Thank you all !
   A  Pat ( Candy 2862 sleeping A - ADA 9628 at the ICU )A

     <Front left.JPG>
     <Dashboard.JPG>

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