[DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Mon Nov 30 15:32:01 EST 2015
Me, too.
Jeff
6559
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Rich <hoppe1 at cox.net> wrote:
> Everyone has their own ideas, so here is mine.
> I bought allen head screws. Metric for the right length and size.
> The head fits in the lense and I added tiny O rings to the allen head
> screw.
> That way when you tighten them, the O ring acts like a lock washer and
> keeps them tight but not too tight and they don't come loose.
> Just one of many ways to do it.
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:32 PM
> To: forestg at att.net ; fresnofinches at aol.com ; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
>
> Thanks, Forest. I the past, those screws were seldom available from
> vendors and never at retailers. According to Larry Stock of PPC-Carson
> City, there are none available now- new OR used. Maybe the more skillful
> can make their own- J DeRyke
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>; DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com
> >
> Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2015 10:32 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
>
> This is what I use. The head is slightly smaller diameter than a
> standard fillister/cheese head and fits the lens recess. I chuck them
> in the drill press and use a file to remove the threads from the
> portion that resides in the lens body so when they are screwed into the
> lens they become a captured screw like the factory.
>
> Metric JIS Pan Head Phillips Machine Screw
>
> M4 Size, 25mm Length, .7mm Pitch
>
>
> Forest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> To: DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com>
>
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:31 AM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
> regarding Larry Westonas two sets of tail lights: one with threaded
> machine screws, the other with awooda screws.
> As in all things Pantera, we have come to accept variations in
> assembly/equipment as indicative of factory-created variety.
> What we tend to forget is these cars are FORTY+ years old and until
> just recently they have not been seen as collector-worthy cars. Thus
> repairs made by all the previous owners have not been restricted to
> aoriginalitya.
> I have received used lights from Europe with numerous aincorrecta lens
> screws. Even in metric Europe, folks often tend towards the aIall use
> what I have on-handa repair approaches.
> And here in metric-phobia USA, not many garage coffee cans have 4mm
> phillips, filiister head machine screws.
> The observation that the awood screwa lenses do not show signs of
> screw-hole cracks just tells me that set's lenses are newer than the
> other set. I suspect that set was compiled from housings/lenses some
> time after manufacture, perhaps from different sources, and the P.O.
> fell prey to the ause what I havea option for the lens screws.
> The white nylon washers with the awood screwsa are original to Carello,
> however. They often remain attached to used lenses after the screws
> have been removed.
> Larry - Are all four lenses marked Carello? There are reproduction
> aCarello stylea lenses on the current market - MrFiat and Hall sell
> that version.
> Also, since Jeff had to reduce the diameter of the machine screw heads
> he found I suspect what he used were in fact pan head machine screws.
> The two styles are closely similar, but the fillister style tends to
> have sharper head edges and sides; some fillister head sides are
> totally flat and parallel to the threaded shafts.
> I still do not believe any Carello lights originally came with awood
> screwsa.
> Larry
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Me, too.
Jeff
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Rich <[1]hoppe1 at cox.net> wrote:
Everyone has their own ideas, so here is mine.
I bought allen head screws. Metric for the right length and size.
The head fits in the lense and I added tiny O rings to the allen
head screw.
That way when you tighten them, the O ring acts like a lock washer
and keeps them tight but not too tight and they don't come loose.
Just one of many ways to do it.
Rich
-----Original Message----- From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:32 PM
To: [2]forestg at att.net ; [3]fresnofinches at aol.com ;
[4]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
Thanks, Forest. I the past, those screws were seldom available from
vendors and never at retailers. According to Larry Stock of
PPC-Carson City, there are none available now- new OR used. Maybe
the more skillful can make their own- J DeRyke
-----Original Message-----
From: Forest Goodhart <[5]forestg at att.net>
To: Larry Finch <[6]fresnofinches at aol.com>; DeTomaso Forum
<[7]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2015 10:32 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
This is what I use. The head is slightly smaller diameter than a
A standard fillister/cheese head and fits the lens recess. I chuck
them
A in the drill press and use a file to remove the threads from the
A portion that resides in the lens body so when they are screwed
into the
A lens they become a captured screw like the factory.
Metric JIS Pan Head Phillips Machine Screw
M4 Size, 25mm Length, .7mm Pitch
A Forest
A A
__________________________________________________________________
A From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso <[8]detomaso at poca.com>
A To: DeTomaso Forum <[9]detomaso at poca.com>
A Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:31 AM
A Subject: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
A regarding Larry Westonas two sets of tail lights: one with threaded
A machine screws, the other with awooda screws.
A As in all things Pantera, we have come to accept variations in
A assembly/equipment as indicative of factory-created variety.
A What we tend to forget is these cars are FORTY+ years old and until
A just recently they have not been seen as collector-worthy cars. Thus
A repairs made by all the previous owners have not been restricted to
A aoriginalitya.
A I have received used lights from Europe with numerous aincorrecta
lens
A screws. Even in metric Europe, folks often tend towards the aIall
use
A what I have on-handa repair approaches.
A And here in metric-phobia USA, not many garage coffee cans have 4mm
A phillips, filiister head machine screws.
A The observation that the awood screwa lenses do not show signs of
A screw-hole cracks just tells me that set's lenses are newer than the
A other set. I suspect that set was compiled from housings/lenses some
A time after manufacture, perhaps from different sources, and the P.O.
A fell prey to the ause what I havea option for the lens screws.
A The white nylon washers with the awood screwsa are original to
Carello,
A however.A They often remain attached to used lenses after the
screws
A have been removed.
A Larry -A Are all four lenses marked Carello? There are reproduction
A aCarello stylea lenses on the current market - MrFiat and Hall sell
A that version.
A Also, since Jeff had to reduce the diameter of the machine screw
heads
A he found I suspect what he used were in fact pan head machine
screws.
A The two styles are closely similar, but the fillister style tends to
A have sharper head edges and sides; some fillister head sides are
A totally flat and parallel to the threaded shafts.
A I still do not believe any Carello lights originally came with awood
A screwsa.
A Larry
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