[DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens

Larry Finch fresnofinches at aol.com
Mon Nov 30 14:57:34 EST 2015


Rich,

Great minds must think alike?

I have been providing small black rubber O-rings with my restored lights for many years now.

They work great for all the reasons you mentioned.

Larry

Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo. 

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Rich <hoppe1 at cox.net> wrote:
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> Everyone has their own ideas, so here is mine.
> I bought allen head screws. Metric for the right length and size.
> The head fits in the lense and I added tiny O rings to the allen head screw.
> That way when you tighten them, the O ring acts like a lock washer and keeps them tight but not too tight and they don't come loose.
> Just one of many ways to do it.
> Rich
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> -----Original Message----- From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:32 PM
> To: forestg at att.net ; fresnofinches at aol.com ; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
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> Thanks, Forest. I the past, those screws were seldom available from vendors and never at retailers. According to Larry Stock of PPC-Carson City, there are none available now- new OR used. Maybe the more skillful can make their own- J DeRyke
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>; DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2015 10:32 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
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> This is what I use. The head is slightly smaller diameter than a
>  standard fillister/cheese head and fits the lens recess. I chuck them
>  in the drill press and use a file to remove the threads from the
>  portion that resides in the lens body so when they are screwed into the
>  lens they become a captured screw like the factory.
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> Metric JIS Pan Head Phillips Machine Screw
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> M4 Size, 25mm Length, .7mm Pitch
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>  From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>  To: DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com>
>  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:31 AM
>  Subject: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
>  regarding Larry Westonas two sets of tail lights: one with threaded
>  machine screws, the other with awooda screws.
>  As in all things Pantera, we have come to accept variations in
>  assembly/equipment as indicative of factory-created variety.
>  What we tend to forget is these cars are FORTY+ years old and until
>  just recently they have not been seen as collector-worthy cars. Thus
>  repairs made by all the previous owners have not been restricted to
>  aoriginalitya.
>  I have received used lights from Europe with numerous aincorrecta lens
>  screws. Even in metric Europe, folks often tend towards the aIall use
>  what I have on-handa repair approaches.
>  And here in metric-phobia USA, not many garage coffee cans have 4mm
>  phillips, filiister head machine screws.
>  The observation that the awood screwa lenses do not show signs of
>  screw-hole cracks just tells me that set's lenses are newer than the
>  other set. I suspect that set was compiled from housings/lenses some
>  time after manufacture, perhaps from different sources, and the P.O.
>  fell prey to the ause what I havea option for the lens screws.
>  The white nylon washers with the awood screwsa are original to Carello,
>  however.  They often remain attached to used lenses after the screws
>  have been removed.
>  Larry -  Are all four lenses marked Carello? There are reproduction
>  aCarello stylea lenses on the current market - MrFiat and Hall sell
>  that version.
>  Also, since Jeff had to reduce the diameter of the machine screw heads
>  he found I suspect what he used were in fact pan head machine screws.
>  The two styles are closely similar, but the fillister style tends to
>  have sharper head edges and sides; some fillister head sides are
>  totally flat and parallel to the threaded shafts.
>  I still do not believe any Carello lights originally came with awood
>  screwsa.
>  Larry
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