[DeTomaso] Fwd: What Headers match new Edelbrock 2V Performer RPM Heads ... ?

Ed Mendez edducati at mac.com
Sun Nov 22 14:59:48 EST 2015


It's a 9.2 deck stock Cleveland with the Edelbrock 2V heads

Thanks Dan

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> On 23/11/2015, at 05:19, Daniel C Jones <daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>   Some of the other cylinder head manufacturers like TFS have raised
>   exhaust ports but the Edelbrock 351C-2V heads have the exhaust port in
>   the stock location, see:
>   A [1]http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/mc/cylinder-heads/ford/perform
>   er-rpm-351c.shtml
>   "Exhaust port location: Stock"
>   None of the Cleveland headers designed for front engined cars will fit
>   the Pantera.A  Larry Stock at the Pantera Parts Connection carries
>   351C-2V Pantera headers:
>   A Part Number 10026P Headers, PPC 351C-2V 4 tube with 1.75" diameter
>   primaries, coated $595.00
>   A Part Number 10025P Headers, PPC 351C-2V 4 tube with 1.75" diameter
>   primaries, uncoated $395.00
>   They are made by Hedman and available only through Larry.A  I ran a set
>   on a 351C with Australian closed chamber 2V heads in my Pantera years
>   ago.A  Some blurry pictures are on Mike Dailey's website:
>   [2]http://panteraplace.com/Pantera%20Pics/2V%20header%20left.jpg
>   [3]http://panteraplace.com/Pantera%20Pics/2V%20header%20right%202.jpg
>   [4]http://panteraplace.com/Pantera%20Pics/2V%20header%20right%20%201.jp
>   g
>   It looks like the flange on the headers pictured are for 4V heads but
>   it's hard to tell.A  Pantera headers designed for 351C-4V heads should
>   bolt up and seal against the Edelbrock heads but will have a larger
>   port opening.A  I've not measured 2V and 4V bolt hole locations but
>   there's no way there is an 1 1/2" difference.A  That's more like the
>   difference between Ford Motorsport high port heads and 2V/4V heads.A
>   If those headers worked on a previous 351C in that Pantera but are now
>   off by 1 1/2" when bolted to the Edelbrock heads on the same block,
>   something else is wrong.A  The resolution of the attached pictures is
>   too low to tell but what sort of block is that?A  Is it aluminum?A  If
>   it's a 9.5" deck Windsor or race block, that would explain the problem
>   as the Cleveland has a 9.2" tall deck.
>   Dan Jones
> 
>   On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Ed Mendez <[5]edducati at mac.com>
>   wrote:
> 
>     Hi All,
>     I have not heard this one before, but some mechanics here in NZ are
>     telling my friend that the exhaust ports on the Edelbrock 2V
>     Performer RPM Aluminium heads (part # 61629) are raised from the
>     stock head location?A  and that they are an inch higher than
>     stocka|? I find that very hard to believe.
>     I think my friend just needs some correct Pantera Headers?
>     Basically, the headers he has are hitting the gas tank shield on the
>     drivers side and the flange is hitting the suspension on the
>     passenger side.
>     The headers he has are Pacemaker out of Australia, see his email
>     below.
>     Your advise would be greatly appreciated.
>     Thanks, Ed
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Dave Fleming <[6]dave.fleming at xtra.co.nz>
>> Subject: What Headers match new Edelbrock 2V Performer RPM Heads
>     ... ?
>> Date: 21 November 2015 at 17:15:17 NZDT
>> To: Ed Mendez <[7]edducati at icloud.com>
>> 
>> Hi Ed,
>> 
>> The great news is that the engine and gearbox went back into the
>     Pantera early last weekA  a|A  the bad news is weave hit a major
>     problem.A  A  I think I might need some advice from the POCA
>     community, as Iam sure someone else must have struck this issue.
>> 
>> When the engine was rebuilt, we changed over to new Edelbrock 2V
>     Performer RPM Aluminium heads (part # 61629).
>> 
>> Seemingly all of the mechanics failed to realise that the exhaust
>     ports on these new heads are approximately 11AA 1/22 inches higher
>     at the outlet than the old headers.A  A Accordingly when the guys
>     tried to fit my 2-inch Pacemaker headers back into already tight
>     spaces, thereas no way they were ever going to fit !A  A  We can
>     almost get the right side headers close, but the gap on the left
>     side between the heads and the fuel tank is now way too small.
>> 
>> Given the general lack of knowledge about Panteras in New Zealand
>     (thereas only a dozen in the country !) Iam desperately trying to
>     find a cost effective solution.A  A  The options appear to be as
>     follows:
>> Ask if anyone in the POCA community has these particular Edelbrock
>     2V Performer RPM heads installedA  -A  if so, what make/model
>     headers are they running ?
>> Have some new 2V flanges laser cut, and then butcher my existing
>     heads by trying to cut/reshape/weld them onto the new flangesA
>     A (approx US$2,000)
>> Find someone here to make a set of custom headers from scratchA
>     A (approx US$5,500 and a 2 month wait !)
>> I can see that Pacemaker (an Australian manufacturer) produce
>     units for both 2V and 4V heads for a Ford 351C engine, but of course
>     thereas absolutely no guarantee theyall fit a rear engined PanteraA
>     a|
>> 
>> A  A  A
>     A [8]http://www.pacemaker.com.au/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&vie
>     w=category&virtuemart_category_id=46&limitstart=9
>     <[9]http://www.pacemaker.com.au/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view
>     =category&virtuemart_category_id=46&limitstart=9>
>> 
>> Iam really, really nervous about ordering a new set of headers
>     through Ebay or offshore unless I can be certain that theyall bolt
>     straight into place.
>> 
>> Any help would be very much appreciated Ed, as weare at a bit of
>     an impasse at presentA  -A  work had ground to a halt until we can
>     solve this problem.A  A Can you see if any of the POCA members have
>     an easy solution for this problem ?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
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> References
> 
>   1. http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/mc/cylinder-heads/ford/performer-rpm-351c.shtml
>   2. http://panteraplace.com/Pantera%20Pics/2V%20header%20left.jpg
>   3. http://panteraplace.com/Pantera%20Pics/2V%20header%20right%202.jpg
>   4. http://panteraplace.com/Pantera%20Pics/2V%20header%20right%20%201.jpg
>   5. mailto:edducati at mac.com
>   6. mailto:dave.fleming at xtra.co.nz
>   7. mailto:edducati at icloud.com
>   8. http://www.pacemaker.com.au/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=category&virtuemart_category_id=46&limitstart=9
>   9. http://www.pacemaker.com.au/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=category&virtuemart_category_id=46&limitstart=9
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