[DeTomaso] transaxle

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Tue Nov 10 22:31:18 EST 2015


A fiberoptic inspection scope allows you to look inside and check the bolt heads.
 
I have an old one that is not good enough for patient use but was good enough for that-- mine were OK
 
Jim
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Greenblum <Richard at richardgreenblum.com>
To: tcabanski <tcabanski at tencom.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2015 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] transaxle


Tom,
   Does the car rock back and forth a long way while in gear?  Mine did,

and it unfortunately turned out to be a very, very rare diff housing
  
failure.  Mine cracked, and I never mistreated the transaxle (no
   dropping
the clutch, no drag racing).
   Richard
   Austin, TX

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Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 4:31 PM
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] transaxle

  
Sometimes,  broken bolt-heads will stick to the drain plug magnet or
      come
out while draining the ZF- which slould be done yearly! Note
   you
      run
the risk of destroying your ZF if one of the broken bolt heads
   gets
     
caught in the ring & pinion mesh. At the very least, the bottom
   cover
     
will be cracked as the bolthead squirts out at high velocity. At the
     
worst, the whole case will open up like a walnut.... In a recent
     
Newsletter, there were photos of an owner who found EIGHT broken
   bolts
    
(out of ten total). This has been a well known problem since the
      Pantera
was still being built. Mangustas were factory safety wired
   but
      very,
very few Panteras.
      The two 11-1/2" long cross-bolts through the bearing
side-plates and
      the lower cover keep one from removing the lower cover
while the ZF
   is
      mounted in the car. And even if it was somehow
removed, removing
      sheared ring gear bolts with no heads and properly
torquing new
   US-made
      bolts in place, then safety wiring them all the
while on your back
      under the car, is not an easy task. Remove the ZF and
do this on the
      bench.
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Tom
Cabanski <[6]tcabanski at tencom.com>
      To: detomaso <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
 
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2015 1:31 pm
      Subject: [DeTomaso] transaxle
   Have
always heard an occasionally clunk when I'm waiting at a stop
      light
  
with the car in neutral.
      Thought it was a bad universal joint, but
  
checking them seems to show
      they are good & tight.
      I now think
that
   the ring gear bolts are loose or that one or more of
      the bolt
heads may have
   sheared off.
      They have not been safety wired.
     
Is there an easy way
   to confirm?
      Look for shaving on the bottom drain
plug on in the gear
   oil?
      Can you remove the anything while it is in
the car to confirm?
   Tom
  
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   A fiberoptic inspection scope allows you to look inside and check
   the bolt heads.



   I have an old one that is not good enough for patient use but was good
   enough for that-- mine were OK



   Jim









   -----Original Message-----
   From: Richard Greenblum <Richard at richardgreenblum.com>
   To: tcabanski <tcabanski at tencom.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2015 2:41 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] transaxle
Tom,
   Does the car rock back and forth a long way while in gear?  Mine did,

and it unfortunately turned out to be a very, very rare diff housing

failure.  Mine cracked, and I never mistreated the transaxle (no
   dropping
the clutch, no drag racing).
   Richard
   Austin, TX

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Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 4:31 PM
   To: <[4][4]tcabanski at tencom.com>,
deTomaso List <[5][5]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] transaxle


Sometimes,  broken bolt-heads will stick to the drain plug magnet or
      come
out while draining the ZF- which slould be done yearly! Note
   you
      run
the risk of destroying your ZF if one of the broken bolt heads
   gets

caught in the ring & pinion mesh. At the very least, the bottom
   cover

will be cracked as the bolthead squirts out at high velocity. At the

worst, the whole case will open up like a walnut.... In a recent

Newsletter, there were photos of an owner who found EIGHT broken
   bolts

(out of ten total). This has been a well known problem since the
      Pantera
was still being built. Mangustas were factory safety wired
   but
      very,
very few Panteras.
      The two 11-1/2" long cross-bolts through the bearing
side-plates and
      the lower cover keep one from removing the lower cover
while the ZF
   is
      mounted in the car. And even if it was somehow
removed, removing
      sheared ring gear bolts with no heads and properly
torquing new
   US-made
      bolts in place, then safety wiring them all the
while on your back
      under the car, is not an easy task. Remove the ZF and
do this on the
      bench.
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Tom
Cabanski <[6][6]tcabanski at tencom.com>
      To: detomaso <[7][7]detomaso at poca.com>

Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2015 1:31 pm
      Subject: [DeTomaso] transaxle
   Have
always heard an occasionally clunk when I'm waiting at a stop
      light

with the car in neutral.
      Thought it was a bad universal joint, but

checking them seems to show
      they are good & tight.
      I now think
that
   the ring gear bolts are loose or that one or more of
      the bolt
heads may have
   sheared off.
      They have not been safety wired.

Is there an easy way
   to confirm?
      Look for shaving on the bottom drain
plug on in the gear
   oil?
      Can you remove the anything while it is in
the car to confirm?
   Tom

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