[DeTomaso] Electronic Delivery of newsletters / Profiles
Himes, Terry (397C)
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Fri Nov 6 20:20:36 EST 2015
IMHO They should not. We live in an electronic world (like it or not). I would bet the extra charges
were due to mailing costs.
"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
to contact us!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
InSight Sequence Team Lead
Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
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Date: Friday, November 6, 2015 2:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Electronic Delivery of newsletters / Profiles
Used to be that for decades, post office mailings to foreign destinations cost more than the dues POCA charged by quite a margin. But there were less than 25 members residing outside the U,S, so POCA quietly absorbed the excess. Now, the number of members outside the U.S. has doubled; we currently mail to 13 countries. And for various reasons, the Board was enmeshed in long discussions of other issues for most of this year, so a dues reduction was not done, although I proposed it. A poor excuse but it's all I got.....
Now that the Election is half over and seemed to work well, and my experiment of sending electronic copies of the Newsletter to a limited number of members also worked (once I upgraded my ISP at my own expense & corrected a dozen bad e-mail addresses), the mostly-new 2016 Board can begin to address the dues question, as well as electronic Club mailings to all who'd prefer them wherever they live. A few in the U.S have already asked for this convenience and I accommodate them.
And if you'd like to officially volunteer for a position in POCA, note there is nothing in our Bylaws to prevent an overseas POCA member being elected (or appointed) as a Board member, just as a POCA Chapter formed outside the U.S is also not forbidden (the name 'Pantera Owners Club of America' notwithstanding, and we also don't require you to be a current Pantera owner). In the past, we had one Board member in the military who was stationed in S. Korea for a year, and although contact was not easy, he was able to perform his duties. The only real inconvenience seems to be the 6-9 hour time-zone change to our current far-flung membership, since POCA holds its monthly Board meetings by telecon.
Knowing that, i just wonder why foreign members pay more membership fees, than US members?
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From: R.J <willibillie at live.de<mailto:willibillie at live.de>>
To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2015 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Electronic Delivery of newsletters / Profiles
Knowing that, i just wonder, why foreign members pay more membership
fees,
than US members?
Am 06.11.2015 um 20:43 schrieb fastgrandma via
DeTomaso:
Rob, the seed was planted long ago! Jack has been sending the
Newsletters electronically to all the foreign members - other than a
couple
who do NOT use computers for well over a year. This has save
POCA a good
amount of money. It is being worked on to do all members
who would prefer
this method; the major problem is making sure all the
email addresses are
correct which takes time. This is also complicated
by those who's server
will not accept a large mailing.
Personally I'd never accept an electronic
Profiles; those really need
to be read in hand. Proofing it online has
definitely shown me that I
was correct on that issue. :)
Judy
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From: Rob Dumoulin [1]<rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>
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Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2015
6:41 am
Subject: [DeTomaso] Electronic Delivery of newsletters /
Profiles
My POCA publication arrived yesterday.A Nice work.A Has any
discussion
been had yet about distributing these electronically?A I
can
see a cost
savings but I can also see it being easier to pirate
(forwarding
to
non-paying enthusiasts).A It is nice to have the hard
copies, but
could
they be published online in a secured area on the
POCA server that
could be
indexed?A Printing could be done at the
choice of the member.
How much
does it cost to print/send each distribution?
How much time does
somebody
have to spend to make distribution happen?
Just planting a
seed.A
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IMHO They should not. We live in an electronic world (like it or
not). I would bet the extra charges
were due to mailing costs.
"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
to contact us!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
InSight Sequence Team Lead
Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of POCA
<[3]detomaso at poca.com>
Reply-To: "[4]jderyke at aol.com" <[5]jderyke at aol.com>
Date: Friday, November 6, 2015 2:10 PM
To: "[6]willibillie at live.de" <[7]willibillie at live.de>, POCA
<[8]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Electronic Delivery of newsletters / Profiles
Used to be that for decades, post office mailings to foreign
destinations cost more than the dues POCA charged by quite a margin.
But there were less than 25 members residing outside the U,S, so POCA
quietly absorbed the excess. Now, the number of members outside the
U.S. has doubled; we currently mail to 13 countries. And for various
reasons, the Board was enmeshed in long discussions of other issues for
most of this year, so a dues reduction was not done, although I
proposed it. A poor excuse but it's all I got.....
Now that the Election is half over and seemed to work well, and my
experiment of sending electronic copies of the Newsletter to a limited
number of members also worked (once I upgraded my ISP at my own expense
& corrected a dozen bad e-mail addresses), the mostly-new 2016 Board
can begin to address the dues question, as well as electronic Club
mailings to all who'd prefer them wherever they live. A few in the U.S
have already asked for this convenience and I accommodate them.
And if you'd like to officially volunteer for a position in POCA, note
there is nothing in our Bylaws to prevent an overseas POCA member being
elected (or appointed) as a Board member, just as a POCA Chapter formed
outside the U.S is also not forbidden (the name 'Pantera Owners Club of
America' notwithstanding, and we also don't require you to be a current
Pantera owner). In the past, we had one Board member in the military
who was stationed in S. Korea for a year, and although contact was not
easy, he was able to perform his duties. The only real inconvenience
seems to be the 6-9 hour time-zone change to our current far-flung
membership, since POCA holds its monthly Board meetings by telecon.
Knowing that, i just wonder why foreign members pay more membership
fees, than US members?
-----Original Message-----
From: R.J <[9]willibillie at live.de>
To: detomaso <[10]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2015 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Electronic Delivery of newsletters / Profiles
Knowing that, i just wonder, why foreign members pay more membership
fees,
than US members?
Am 06.11.2015 um 20:43 schrieb fastgrandma via
DeTomaso:
Rob, the seed was planted long ago! Jack has been sending the
Newsletters electronically to all the foreign members - other than a
couple
who do NOT use computers for well over a year. This has save
POCA a good
amount of money. It is being worked on to do all members
who would prefer
this method; the major problem is making sure all the
email addresses are
correct which takes time. This is also complicated
by those who's server
will not accept a large mailing.
Personally I'd never accept an electronic
Profiles; those really need
to be read in hand. Proofing it online has
definitely shown me that I
was correct on that issue. :)
Judy
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From: Rob Dumoulin [1]<[11]rob at dumoulins.net>
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Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2015
6:41 am
Subject: [DeTomaso] Electronic Delivery of newsletters /
Profiles
My POCA publication arrived yesterday.A Nice work.A Has any
discussion
been had yet about distributing these electronically?A I
can
see a cost
savings but I can also see it being easier to pirate
(forwarding
to
non-paying enthusiasts).A It is nice to have the hard
copies, but
could
they be published online in a secured area on the
POCA server that
could be
indexed?A Printing could be done at the
choice of the member.
How much
does it cost to print/send each distribution?
How much time does
somebody
have to spend to make distribution happen?
Just planting a
seed.A
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