[DeTomaso] ZF Ratios and Specs

Bill Moore bill at incendium.com
Wed Nov 4 21:17:31 EST 2015


    
The taller 5th gear is a great upgrade. Especially if you have an engine which delivers . Great dollar value.



Cheers,
Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary

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From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> 
Date: 2015-11-04  5:08 PM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> 
Cc: detomaso at poca.com 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF Ratios and Specs 

For what its worth, when I visited Dennis Quella a few years ago, he told me the same thing.  The biggest bang for the buck was the taller 5th gear; don't bother changing the ring and pinion.  But he said if I really wanted a taller R&P he'd be happy to sell me one.

If/when I ever have my ZF serviced, I'll go with the 5th gear change.

Asa  Jay


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Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

>Michael,
>
>Although the spreadsheet on Panteraplace is very useful, it will take any value and thus give you data for gears that don't exist. GIGO. 
>
>Lloyd Butfoy's program allows you to select from the available ratios. Generally, the stock R&P is 4.22; some GT-5S era cars could be had with an optional 4.00, and 3.77 is the widely popular 'Le Mans' gear set. 
>
>A new rear end set is about $2500. Some people have gone for both the 3.77 and super-overdrive 5th gear (.642 or .620) and the combination of the two has been a failure in most cases. Fifth then becomes too tall to be realistically useable below 90-100 mph or so. 
>
>What are you hoping to achieve?  Most people would be best served with the stock 4.22 and the taller 5th, I think. 
>
>Mike
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Nov 4, 2015, at 14:35, Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>   Does anybody have and will share the specs for different ratios
>>   sppeds in each gear at X rpm, etc.
>>   4:56
>>   4:22
>>   3.750
>>   3.53
>>   are there any others?
>>   Thank you,
>>   Michael
>>   --
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   For what its worth, when I visited Dennis Quella a few years ago, he
   told me the same thing.  The biggest bang for the buck was the taller
   5th gear; don't bother changing the ring and pinion.  But he said if I
   really wanted a taller R&P he'd be happy to sell me one.
   If/when I ever have my ZF serviced, I'll go with the 5th gear change.
   Asa  Jay
   Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks

   Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
   Michael,
   Although the spreadsheet on Panteraplace is very useful, it will take
   any value and thus give you data for gears that don't exist. GIGO.
   Lloyd Butfoy's program allows you to select from the available ratios.
   Generally, the stock R&P is 4.22; some GT-5S era cars could be had with
   an optional 4.00, and 3.77 is the widely popular 'Le Mans' gear set.
   A new rear end set is about $2500. Some people have gone for both the
   3.77 and super-overdrive 5th gear (.642 or .620) and the combination of
   the two has been a failure in most cases. Fifth then becomes too tall
   to be realistically useable below 90-100 mph or so.
   What are you hoping to achieve?  Most people would be best served with
   the stock 4.22 and the taller 5th, I think.
   Mike
   Sent from my iPhone
   On Nov 4, 2015, at 14:35, Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >   Does anybody have and will share the specs for different ratios
   >   sppeds in each gear at X rpm, etc.
   >   4:56
   >   4:22
   >   3.750
   >   3.53
   >   are there any others?
   >   Thank you,
   >   Michael
   >   --
   >   Michael L. Shortt
   >   Savannah, Georgia
   >   [1]www.michaelshortt.com
   >   [2]michael at michaelshortt.com
   >   912-232-9390
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   The taller 5th gear is a great upgrade. Especially if you have an
   engine which delivers . Great dollar value.

   Cheers,
   Bill Moore
   Incendium Supply
   Calgary

   -------- Original message --------
   From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
   Date: 2015-11-04 5:08 PM (GMT-07:00)
   To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF Ratios and Specs
   For what its worth, when I visited Dennis Quella a few years ago, he
   told me the same thing.  The biggest bang for the buck was the taller
   5th gear; don't bother changing the ring and pinion.  But he said if I
   really wanted a taller R&P he'd be happy to sell me one.
   If/when I ever have my ZF serviced, I'll go with the 5th gear change.
   Asa  Jay
   Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
   Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
   >Michael,
   >
   >Although the spreadsheet on Panteraplace is very useful, it will take
   any value and thus give you data for gears that don't exist. GIGO.
   >
   >Lloyd Butfoy's program allows you to select from the available ratios.
   Generally, the stock R&P is 4.22; some GT-5S era cars could be had with
   an optional 4.00, and 3.77 is the widely popular 'Le Mans' gear set.
   >
   >A new rear end set is about $2500. Some people have gone for both the
   3.77 and super-overdrive 5th gear (.642 or .620) and the combination of
   the two has been a failure in most cases. Fifth then becomes too tall
   to be realistically useable below 90-100 mph or so.
   >
   >What are you hoping to achieve?  Most people would be best served with
   the stock 4.22 and the taller 5th, I think.
   >
   >Mike
   >
   >Sent from my iPhone
   >
   >On Nov 4, 2015, at 14:35, Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   >>   Does anybody have and will share the specs for different ratios
   >>   sppeds in each gear at X rpm, etc.
   >>   4:56
   >>   4:22
   >>   3.750
   >>   3.53
   >>   are there any others?
   >>   Thank you,
   >>   Michael
   >>   --
   >>   Michael L. Shortt
   >>   Savannah, Georgia
   >>   [1]www.michaelshortt.com
   >>   [2]michael at michaelshortt.com
   >>   912-232-9390
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      For what its worth, when I visited Dennis Quella a few years ago, he
      told me the same thing.  The biggest bang for the buck was the
   taller
      5th gear; don't bother changing the ring and pinion.  But he said if
   I
      really wanted a taller R&P he'd be happy to sell me one.
      If/when I ever have my ZF serviced, I'll go with the 5th gear
   change.
      Asa  Jay
      Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
      Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
      Michael,
      Although the spreadsheet on Panteraplace is very useful, it will
   take
      any value and thus give you data for gears that don't exist. GIGO.
      Lloyd Butfoy's program allows you to select from the available
   ratios.
      Generally, the stock R&P is 4.22; some GT-5S era cars could be had
   with
      an optional 4.00, and 3.77 is the widely popular 'Le Mans' gear set.
      A new rear end set is about $2500. Some people have gone for both
   the
      3.77 and super-overdrive 5th gear (.642 or .620) and the combination
   of
      the two has been a failure in most cases. Fifth then becomes too
   tall
      to be realistically useable below 90-100 mph or so.
      What are you hoping to achieve?  Most people would be best served
   with
      the stock 4.22 and the taller 5th, I think.
      Mike
      Sent from my iPhone
      On Nov 4, 2015, at 14:35, Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
      wrote:
      >   Does anybody have and will share the specs for different ratios
      >   sppeds in each gear at X rpm, etc.
      >   4:56
      >   4:22
      >   3.750
      >   3.53
      >   are there any others?
      >   Thank you,
      >   Michael
      >   --
      >   Michael L. Shortt
      >   Savannah, Georgia
      >   [1]www.michaelshortt.com
      >   [2]michael at michaelshortt.com
      >   912-232-9390
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      >   This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
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   hereby
      >   notified
      >   that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of
   this
      >   communication is strictly prohibited.A  Please reply to the
   sender
      that
      >   you
      >   have received this message in error, then delete it.A  Thank you
      >
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      >
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