[DeTomaso] POCA

[Effie Richards]

Marshall and all, (if I may)
Because my secondary pro-bonus job is to help cease "injustice" whenever I 
can, I need to say to you, Marshall, that everyone in this forum is now 
becoming aware that there were definitely injustices done and more of the 
forum members are learning about it.  Stay tuned because more details will 
surface in time, they always do.
For now, as we move forward, let's hope for positive change, new members, old 
members coming back,  more happy existing members, no more secrecy, "control" 
issues and rudeness.

I am so impressed to read of all the participants' knowledge and resources and 
willingness to help others who have issues with the car, this is what it is 
all about.  It is awesome!
Although, our '71 push button (under restoration) is supposed to be "my" car 
(I think more for reasons of justifying expenses), I don't think I could ever 
drive it.  However, Robert is always willing to let me be his co-driver!  No 
luggage compartment in our '74, but I have learned to travel very light!  I 
got to ride in the Pantera on our second date and felt in love with it and its 
driver!....
Laurie Basile and Lori Drew, you are my heroines!!!....

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:20 AM
To: Larry Finch; Jeff Detrich
Cc: DeTomaso Forum
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA

Hey Jeff....

          Rather than grilling you for holding office while not being a member 
of POCA or questioning you about how much POCA should have in cash reserves, 
let me be the first member to THANK YOU for disclosing the dysfunction that 
exists on this board. None of us can bury our heads in the sand and ignore the 
secrecy that continues to be the norm with this board. From board meetings 
that according to our Bylaws should be open to all members but never have, to 
having well over a hundred thousand dollars in cash reserves but receiving NO 
accounting for those funds, the malfeasance continues along with dozens of 
violations of those bylaws. From the loss of over 100 members last year 
(approximately 10% of the POCA membership) to the rude and callous treatment 
of many of its members to election discrepancies, this board seems to have 
totally lost control of realizing they serve at the pleasure of us, the 
membership and NOT themselves.

          Now I know there are a group of members that would rather talk about 
Pantera dimensions or wiper blades or tire sizes for hours on end but you 
truly should also take part in questioning your board of directors and making 
sure their feet are held to the fire when it comes to unethical behavior and 
issues of finances. There has been POCA monies misappropriated in the past and 
continued apathy on this subject could lead to similar antics. The POCA bylaws 
state that the membership is to receive a yearly  accounting of "our" monies 
but that accounting in the March 2015 newsletter did not contain any 
description of the over a hundred thousand dollars that Jeff speaks of and I 
disclosed earlier this year.

          Jeff, I do wish you had disclosed more of the injustices that have 
occured with this board at an earlier date but I have talked to enough current 
and past board members who seem to just run out of gas and give up before 
asking the membership to help correct these injustices by putting pressure on 
this board. Many good board members have gone the route that you now have, 
throwing up their hands and giving up. I will commend you though for airing 
your frustrations on this Forum and giving us a chance to be aware of the mess 
that we have at the top and do something about it with our current election. I 
want to thank you for your 'attempted' service to us, the members. We have now 
lost another one of the good guys.


Marshall Smith
President, San Diego Panteras



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On Wed, 11/4/15, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA
 To: "Larry Finch" <fresnofinches at aol.com>
 Cc: "DeTomaso Forum" <detomaso at poca.com>
 Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 9:13 AM

    From an
 email by Larry Finch:
    I KNOW
 POCA bylaws require a candidate to be a member in good  standing
    at time of
 election.
    And, I am pretty
 sure POCA bylaws require any elected officer to remain
    a POCA member.
    If they don't, that is
 something that needs to be fixed.
    Larry -
    >>>Larry, as it turns
 out the by-laws are silent on membership for
    on-going officers. And silence in
 this case would be deemed to be
    intentional since it was clearly
 defined for Chapter Officers and for
    members running for office but
 not on-going Board members. It would be
    nice to be able to assume
 otherwise but that's not how it works. You
    are right, the By-Laws should be
 changed.
    Jeff
    On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:19 PM,
 Jeff Detrich <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Probably true, Larry, but since
 we haven't had a Board meeting since
    May...
    Time for a change.
    Jeff

 References

    1. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com

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