[DeTomaso] Fuel injection system and brakes question
David
david at msmcontractors.org
Tue Nov 3 18:14:13 EST 2015
Just wanted to let you know Scott worked with me to do some slightly customized brake units and he is great. Really knows his stuff and a pleasure to work with.
My four wheel Wilwood set up is great.
Also have the selective Ridetech Coilovers he put together and they are Fantastic!
I look forward to giving more money to Scott!
David Finley
#3659
> On Nov 3, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The heavy and ugly is not that relevant to me (my idea of a beauty is
> either an M35A2 or an H1) so...
> I will be buying shortly the 4 wheel kit, thanks you for the excellent
> explanations, once we have the car on the lift to inspect the potential
> damage the locked front right caliper did to the rotor.
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Scott Bell
> <[1]scott at saccrestorations.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Konrad,
>
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> There are 2 kits we sell that give the BIGGEST bang for the buck. They
> are an add-on Caliper to the rear that retains the stock Caliper as a
> parking brake. This kit is $499.95.
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> Most customers tell me the improvement is unbelievable. This is because
> the stock rear brakes are completely undersized for the Pantera,
> especially for a car with wider rear tires. This kit also requires the
> removal of the stock proportioning valve. The removal of the valve
> increases the pressure to the front brakes giving you a free upgrade to
> the fronts at the same time. You might think to simply remove the
> proportioning valve now for a free upgrade. Some have done this but in
> my opinion it is a very bad idea because it essentially disables the
> small amount of brake the stock rears do provide. This is because the
> increased performance from the front caused the rears to not get enough
> pressure. This subject could be talked about a lot more but I will
> leave it there for nowa|
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> The other inexpensive kit we sell, for $995.00, A is 4 Wilwood Calipers
> over stock rotors. This is another very popular kit. The main advantage
> for doing the fronts is the weight savings, the availability of
> multiple brake pad compounds, the availability of re-build parts in the
> future and the ability to build on the investment with compatibility to
> future upgrades, like bigger rotors, etca|
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> The stock e-brake it retained for both of these kits. If it works today
> it can be left as your e-brake. BUT, it is heaving and ugly (if that
> matters to you). There are many options for an e-brake available. IPSCO
> makes a bolt on e-brake that works very well. Wilwood makes several
> cable actuated brakes that would work well and then there is the stock
> unit.
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> I will be coming out with a new e-brake shortly that I will be adding
> to my existing kits for those that want to replace the ugly stock unit
> with a more modern unit that isnat too expensive. More to come on that
> later.
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> Let me know if you have any questions.
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> Take care, Scott
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> Scott Bell
>
> SACC Restorations
>
> [2]951-461-2190
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> [3]http://www.saccrestorations.net
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> From: Konrad Szwab [mailto:[4]kszwab at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 1:47 PM
> To: Scott Bell
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel injection system and brakes question
>
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> Hey Scott,
>
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> Could you please be so kind to describe a bit
> [5]http://www.saccrestorations.net/pantera-caliper-upgrade-kit-for-stoc
> k-rotors/
>
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> My concerns:
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> 1. I am cheap (yeah, I know, I should not be a Pantera owner, but it is
> an imperfect world)
>
> 2. I am trying not to get killed
>
> 3. If I purchase this kit, will I lose the e-brake ? (some Toyota
> loving ass will fail the car at inspections)
>
> 4. If I have to keep the stock calipers for e-brake, can I buy just a
> front kit ? (#1 and #3 come to mind)
>
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> Thanks,
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> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Scott Bell
> <[6]scott at saccrestorations.net> wrote:
>
> Michael,
> Where are you buying your Wilwood brakes from. 6K is INSANE!!!
> Please check-out some of our offerings. What is listed here is not all
> the kits we offer.
> SACC Restorations has the wideset range of brake products available for
> the Pantera at the best prices.
> Check some of them out at:
> [7]http://www.saccrestorations.net/brake-kits-1/
> Take care, Scott
> Scott Bell
> SACC Restorations
> [8]951-461-2190
> [9]http://www.saccrestorations.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[10]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> Michael Shortt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 8:21 AM
> To: Konrad Szwab
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel injection system and brakes question
> Yes, fuel injection will weaken the lope lope sound.
> Probably closer to 6k for Wilwood.
> Precision Proformance has a nice upgrade in the 3300 range.
> Yes, engine gets removed for gas tank replacement.
> Michael Shortt
>> On Nov 3, 2015 11:12 AM, "Konrad Szwab" <[11]kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
>> A A Thank you for the advice Michael. I am quite dead set for a fuel
>> A A injection system but would entertain the idea of a new brake
> system.
>> A A Was the Wilwood in the $3k range ?
>> A A The mention of the rumble is worrying me. Are you saying that
> the sound
>> A A would be weakened by the injection system ? I thought that was
> mostly
>> A A the exhaust. It is important to maintain the sound, I enjoy
> listening
>> A A to it and it has the added satisfaction factor of pissing off my
> Toyota
>> A A driving neighbors.
>> A A Also I would need to do the safety wiring of the transaxle and
> probably
>> A A replace the always smelling gas tank (presume a crack in the
> neck of
>> A A the tank) and probably replace the radiator.
>> A A Does replacement of the gas tank require the engine removal ?
>> A A I need to seriously work on the car to prevent it from getting
> me
>> A A killed so new brakes are a definite priority.
>>
>> A A On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Michael Shortt
>> A A <[1][12]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A A Konrad,A
>> A A I would throw money at the brakes and buy a whole new system, (
>> A A Wilwood, Brembo, Porsche Turbo )
>> A A and go with a new carb A ( QFT is awesome ) if I was redoing a
> car, you
>> A A will get far more enjoyment outA
>> A A of better brakes and maintain the rumble of the 351 Cleveland
> for the
>> A A total Pantera experience.
>> A A Michael Shortt
>>
>> A A On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Konrad Szwab
> <[2][13]kszwab at gmail.com>
>> A A wrote:
>>
>> A A A AA A Now that I have a bit of time to try to resurrect my
> poor '73A
>> A A A Pantera,
>> A A A AA A I would like to ask for recommendations/sources for the
>> A A A following:
>> A A A AA A 1. Fuel injection system for a '73 Cleveland.
> Recommended model
>> A A A and
>> A A A AA A sources, pitfalls in installation. Is there a write up
> anywhere
>> A A A from
>> A A A AA A someone who did the conversion ?
>> A A A AA A 2. Brake rebuild kit. Sources, pitfalls ?
>> A A A AA A Thanks,
>> A A A AA A Konrad
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> 1. mailto:scott at saccrestorations.net
> 2. tel:951-461-2190
> 3. http://www.saccrestorations.net/
> 4. mailto:kszwab at gmail.com
> 5. http://www.saccrestorations.net/pantera-caliper-upgrade-kit-for-stock-rotors/
> 6. mailto:scott at saccrestorations.net
> 7. http://www.saccrestorations.net/brake-kits-1/
> 8. tel:951-461-2190
> 9. http://www.saccrestorations.net/
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