[DeTomaso] Fuel injection system and brakes question

Konrad Szwab kszwab at gmail.com
Tue Nov 3 17:48:13 EST 2015


Yes, the '85 I believe had oil cooled turbos, while the 86 had water cooled
ones.

I still have 2 Biturbos (dead, of course), at some point I had 5. The QP3
will always be one of my favourite cars. The sad and squarish look has an
unique charm, almost like a ZIL.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
wrote:

> In 1985 I ordered a black (nero) one and made a deal with the local dealer
> for the selling price,
> when the car came in, it turned out to be the very first US black one and
> he wanted to raise the price by $1,500
> I told him no and left, 1 hour later I drove thru his parking lot in a new
> red BMW with the universal salute
> extending up thru the sunroof.   I think I was the lucky one that day, the
> turbos did not seem to last very long.
> I still think they were nice looking at that time, like a mini Quattroporte
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I understand Michael, I was just trying to be funny and obviously failed.
>>
>> From past experience with my Maserati Biturbos, "bomb" should not be used
>> in any context related to Italian cars, as "fire" should not be used in
>> crowded theaters :)
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> By saying it was the Bomb, means that it is very good, very reliable, I
>>> used them on my race cars,
>>> there are no moving parts, just electronics, the only thing that moves
>>> is the wheel bolted to the end of the crank,
>>> the fixed in place sensor picks it up as it passes.
>>> https://electromotive.com/
>>>
>>> Great system.
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Shortt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>    Hey Scott,
>>>>    Could you please be so kind to describe a bit
>>>>    [1]
>>>> http://www.saccrestorations.net/pantera-caliper-upgrade-kit-for-stoc
>>>>    k-rotors/
>>>>    My concerns:
>>>>    1. I am cheap (yeah, I know, I should not be a Pantera owner, but it
>>>> is
>>>>    an imperfect world)
>>>>    2. I am trying not to get killed
>>>>    3. If I purchase this kit, will I lose the e-brake ? (some Toyota
>>>>    loving ass will fail the car at inspections)
>>>>    4. If I have to keep the stock calipers for e-brake, can I buy just a
>>>>    front kit ? (#1 and #3 come to mind)
>>>>    Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>    On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Scott Bell
>>>>    <[2]scott at saccrestorations.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      Michael,
>>>>      Where are you buying your Wilwood brakes from. 6K is INSANE!!!
>>>>      Please check-out some of our offerings. What is listed here is not
>>>>      all the kits we offer.
>>>>      SACC Restorations has the wideset range of brake products available
>>>>      for the Pantera at the best prices.
>>>>      Check some of them out at:
>>>>      [3]http://www.saccrestorations.net/brake-kits-1/
>>>>      Take care, Scott
>>>>      Scott Bell
>>>>      SACC Restorations
>>>>      [4]951-461-2190
>>>>      [5]http://www.saccrestorations.net
>>>>      -----Original Message-----
>>>>      From: DeTomaso [mailto:[6]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>      Michael Shortt
>>>>      Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 8:21 AM
>>>>      To: Konrad Szwab
>>>>      Cc: DeTomaso Mail List
>>>>      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel injection system and brakes question
>>>>      Yes, fuel injection will weaken the lope lope sound.
>>>>      Probably closer to 6k for Wilwood.
>>>>      Precision Proformance has a nice upgrade in the 3300 range.
>>>>      Yes, engine gets removed for gas tank replacement.
>>>>      Michael Shortt
>>>>      On Nov 3, 2015 11:12 AM, "Konrad Szwab" <[7]kszwab at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>      >A  A  Thank you for the advice Michael. I am quite dead set for a
>>>>      fuel
>>>>      >A  A  injection system but would entertain the idea of a new brake
>>>>      system.
>>>>      >A  A  Was the Wilwood in the $3k range ?
>>>>      >A  A  The mention of the rumble is worrying me. Are you saying
>>>> that
>>>>      the sound
>>>>      >A  A  would be weakened by the injection system ? I thought that
>>>>      was mostly
>>>>      >A  A  the exhaust. It is important to maintain the sound, I enjoy
>>>>      listening
>>>>      >A  A  to it and it has the added satisfaction factor of pissing
>>>> off
>>>>      my Toyota
>>>>      >A  A  driving neighbors.
>>>>      >A  A  Also I would need to do the safety wiring of the transaxle
>>>>      and probably
>>>>      >A  A  replace the always smelling gas tank (presume a crack in the
>>>>      neck of
>>>>      >A  A  the tank) and probably replace the radiator.
>>>>      >A  A  Does replacement of the gas tank require the engine removal
>>>> ?
>>>>      >A  A  I need to seriously work on the car to prevent it from
>>>>      getting me
>>>>      >A  A  killed so new brakes are a definite priority.
>>>>      >
>>>>      >A  A  On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Michael Shortt
>>>>      >A  A  <[1][8]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>      >
>>>>      >A  A  Konrad,A
>>>>      >A  A  I would throw money at the brakes and buy a whole new
>>>> system,
>>>>      (
>>>>      >A  A  Wilwood, Brembo, Porsche Turbo )
>>>>      >A  A  and go with a new carb A ( QFT is awesome ) if I was redoing
>>>>      a car, you
>>>>      >A  A  will get far more enjoyment outA
>>>>      >A  A  of better brakes and maintain the rumble of the 351
>>>> Cleveland
>>>>      for the
>>>>      >A  A  total Pantera experience.
>>>>      >A  A  Michael Shortt
>>>>      >
>>>>      >A  A  On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Konrad Szwab
>>>>      <[2][9]kszwab at gmail.com>
>>>>      >A  A  wrote:
>>>>      >
>>>>      >A  A  A  AA  A Now that I have a bit of time to try to resurrect
>>>> my
>>>>      poor '73A
>>>>      >A  A  A  Pantera,
>>>>      >A  A  A  AA  A I would like to ask for recommendations/sources for
>>>>      the
>>>>      >A  A  A  following:
>>>>      >A  A  A  AA  A 1. Fuel injection system for a '73 Cleveland.
>>>>      Recommended model
>>>>      >A  A  A  and
>>>>      >A  A  A  AA  A sources, pitfalls in installation. Is there a write
>>>>      up anywhere
>>>>      >A  A  A  from
>>>>      >A  A  A  AA  A someone who did the conversion ?
>>>>      >A  A  A  AA  A 2. Brake rebuild kit. Sources, pitfalls ?
>>>>      >A  A  A  AA  A Thanks,
>>>>      >A  A  A  AA  A Konrad
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>>>> References
>>>>
>>>>    1.
>>>> http://www.saccrestorations.net/pantera-caliper-upgrade-kit-for-stock-rotors/
>>>>    2. mailto:scott at saccrestorations.net
>>>>    3. http://www.saccrestorations.net/brake-kits-1/
>>>>    4. tel:951-461-2190
>>>>    5. http://www.saccrestorations.net/
>>>>    6. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>>>>    7. mailto:kszwab at gmail.com
>>>>    8. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>>    9. mailto:kszwab at gmail.com
>>>>   10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>   11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>   12. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
>>>>   13. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>>   14. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
>>>>   15. mailto:kszwab at gmail.com
>>>>   16. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>   17. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>   18. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
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   Yes, the '85 I believe had oil cooled turbos, while the 86 had water
   cooled ones.
   I still have 2 Biturbos (dead, of course), at some point I had 5. The
   QP3 will always be one of my favourite cars. The sad and squarish
   lookA has an unique charm, almost like a ZIL.A

   On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Michael Shortt
   <[1]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:

   In 1985 I ordered a black (nero) one and made a deal with the local
   dealer for the selling price,
   when the car came in, it turned out to be the very first US black one
   and he wanted to raise the price by $1,500
   I told him no and left, 1 hour later I drove thru his parking lot in a
   new red BMW with the universal salute
   extending up thru the sunroof. A  I think I was the lucky one that day,
   the turbos did not seem to last very long.
   I still think they were nice looking at that time, like a mini
   Quattroporte
   Michael

   On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Konrad Szwab <[2]kszwab at gmail.com>
   wrote:

   I understand Michael, I was just trying to be funny and obviously
   failed.
   From past experience with my Maserati Biturbos, "bomb" should not be
   used in any context related to Italian cars, as "fire" should not be
   used in crowded theaters :)

   On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Michael Shortt
   <[3]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:

   By saying it was the Bomb, means that it is very good, very reliable, I
   used them on my race cars,
   there are no moving parts, just electronics, the only thing that moves
   is the wheel bolted to the end of the crank,
   the fixed in place sensor picks it up as it passes.
   A A [4]https://electromotive.com/
   Great system.
   Michael Shortt

   On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Konrad Szwab <[5]kszwab at gmail.com>
   wrote:

     A  A Hey Scott,
     A  A Could you please be so kind to describe a bit
     A
     A [1][6]http://www.saccrestorations.net/pantera-caliper-upgrade-kit-
     for-stoc
     A  A k-rotors/
     A  A My concerns:
     A  A 1. I am cheap (yeah, I know, I should not be a Pantera owner,
     but it is
     A  A an imperfect world)
     A  A 2. I am trying not to get killed
     A  A 3. If I purchase this kit, will I lose the e-brake ? (some
     Toyota
     A  A loving ass will fail the car at inspections)
     A  A 4. If I have to keep the stock calipers for e-brake, can I buy
     just a
     A  A front kit ? (#1 and #3 come to mind)
     A  A Thanks,
     A  A On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Scott Bell
     A  A <[2][7]scott at saccrestorations.net> wrote:
     A  A  A Michael,
     A  A  A Where are you buying your Wilwood brakes from. 6K is
     INSANE!!!
     A  A  A Please check-out some of our offerings. What is listed here
     is not
     A  A  A all the kits we offer.
     A  A  A SACC Restorations has the wideset range of brake products
     available
     A  A  A for the Pantera at the best prices.
     A  A  A Check some of them out at:
     A  A  A [3][8]http://www.saccrestorations.net/brake-kits-1/
     A  A  A Take care, Scott
     A  A  A Scott Bell
     A  A  A SACC Restorations
     A  A  A [4]951-461-2190
     A  A  A [5][9]http://www.saccrestorations.net
     A  A  A -----Original Message-----
     A  A  A From: DeTomaso [mailto:[6][10]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
     Behalf Of
     A  A  A Michael Shortt
     A  A  A Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 8:21 AM
     A  A  A To: Konrad Szwab
     A  A  A Cc: DeTomaso Mail List
     A  A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fuel injection system and brakes
     question
     A  A  A Yes, fuel injection will weaken the lope lope sound.
     A  A  A Probably closer to 6k for Wilwood.
     A  A  A Precision Proformance has a nice upgrade in the 3300 range.
     A  A  A Yes, engine gets removed for gas tank replacement.
     A  A  A Michael Shortt
     A  A  A On Nov 3, 2015 11:12 AM, "Konrad Szwab"
     <[7][11]kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
     A  A  A >AA  AA  Thank you for the advice Michael. I am quite dead
     set for a
     A  A  A fuel
     A  A  A >AA  AA  injection system but would entertain the idea of a
     new brake
     A  A  A system.
     A  A  A >AA  AA  Was the Wilwood in the $3k range ?
     A  A  A >AA  AA  The mention of the rumble is worrying me. Are you
     saying that
     A  A  A the sound
     A  A  A >AA  AA  would be weakened by the injection system ? I
     thought that
     A  A  A was mostly
     A  A  A >AA  AA  the exhaust. It is important to maintain the sound,
     I enjoy
     A  A  A listening
     A  A  A >AA  AA  to it and it has the added satisfaction factor of
     pissing off
     A  A  A my Toyota
     A  A  A >AA  AA  driving neighbors.
     A  A  A >AA  AA  Also I would need to do the safety wiring of the
     transaxle
     A  A  A and probably
     A  A  A >AA  AA  replace the always smelling gas tank (presume a
     crack in the
     A  A  A neck of
     A  A  A >AA  AA  the tank) and probably replace the radiator.
     A  A  A >AA  AA  Does replacement of the gas tank require the engine
     removal ?
     A  A  A >AA  AA  I need to seriously work on the car to prevent it
     from
     A  A  A getting me
     A  A  A >AA  AA  killed so new brakes are a definite priority.
     A  A  A >
     A  A  A >AA  AA  On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Michael Shortt
     A  A  A >AA  AA  <[1][8][12]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
     A  A  A >
     A  A  A >AA  AA  Konrad,A
     A  A  A >AA  AA  I would throw money at the brakes and buy a whole
     new system,
     A  A  A (
     A  A  A >AA  AA  Wilwood, Brembo, Porsche Turbo )
     A  A  A >AA  AA  and go with a new carb A ( QFT is awesome ) if I
     was redoing
     A  A  A a car, you
     A  A  A >AA  AA  will get far more enjoyment outA
     A  A  A >AA  AA  of better brakes and maintain the rumble of the 351
     Cleveland
     A  A  A for the
     A  A  A >AA  AA  total Pantera experience.
     A  A  A >AA  AA  Michael Shortt
     A  A  A >
     A  A  A >AA  AA  On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Konrad Szwab
     A  A  A <[2][9][13]kszwab at gmail.com>
     A  A  A >AA  AA  wrote:
     A  A  A >
     A  A  A >AA  AA  AA  AAA  A Now that I have a bit of time to try to
     resurrect my
     A  A  A poor '73A
     A  A  A >AA  AA  AA  Pantera,
     A  A  A >AA  AA  AA  AAA  A I would like to ask for
     recommendations/sources for
     A  A  A the
     A  A  A >AA  AA  AA  following:
     A  A  A >AA  AA  AA  AAA  A 1. Fuel injection system for a '73
     Cleveland.
     A  A  A Recommended model
     A  A  A >AA  AA  AA  and
     A  A  A >AA  AA  AA  AAA  A sources, pitfalls in installation. Is
     there a write
     A  A  A up anywhere
     A  A  A >AA  AA  AA  from
     A  A  A >AA  AA  AA  AAA  A someone who did the conversion ?
     A  A  A >AA  AA  AA  AAA  A 2. Brake rebuild kit. Sources, pitfalls
     ?
     A  A  A >AA  AA  AA  AAA  A Thanks,
     A  A  A >AA  AA  AA  AAA  A Konrad
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     A  A 2. mailto:[27]scott at saccrestorations.net
     A  A 3. [28]http://www.saccrestorations.net/brake-kits-1/
     A  A 4. tel:[29]951-461-2190
     A  A 5. [30]http://www.saccrestorations.net/
     A  A 6. mailto:[31]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
     A  A 7. mailto:[32]kszwab at gmail.com
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     A  10. mailto:[35]DeTomaso at poca.com
     A  11. [36]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     A  12. [37]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
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   8. http://www.saccrestorations.net/brake-kits-1/
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