[DeTomaso] 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels
Ed Mendez
edducati at mac.com
Fri May 29 03:29:40 EDT 2015
Only 10 x 15 no 17s at this time
Ed
Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
On May 28, 2015, at 12:01, Larry Weston <lplugw at hotmail.com <mailto:lplugw at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Ed,
> Another question for your guy tonight. Could he create these in 17" diameter?
> That would allow a set of four Pirelli assimetricos, 225/50/15 up front, 285/40/17 in the rear (ala George Pence's suggestion) mounted on rims that look like a set.
> Like you did Brian.
>
>
>
>
> From: edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>
> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 11:33:26 -0700
> To: bd8134 at gmail.com <mailto:bd8134 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels
> CC: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
>
> I will verify tonight
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>
> > On May 28, 2015, at 11:28, Brian Dudley <bd8134 at gmail.com <mailto:bd8134 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > What wheel design would these be?
> > I would only want the original long-ribbed style.
> >
> >> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>> wrote:
> >> He didn't say 30 complete sets he said he would make new molds if we
> >> can get orders for 30 individual wheels and he already has 12 wheels on
> >> order in Europe. So we only need 18 more wheels. So that is just 9
> >> people who want 2 10x15's for the rear. I want 2 so that leaves 8 more
> >> people. :-)
> >>
> >> Ed
> >> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> >>
> >> On May 28, 2015, at 11:16, Asa Jay Laughton <[1]asajay at asajay.com <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hmmmm, sounds like the exact same deal to me. $6,560 for a set of four
> >> wheels. We couldn't put that deal together last time to get 30 sets
> >> made, but I guess this time all our Panteras are worth more now with
> >> the market going up so that means we can better afford to buy these.
> >> Now if we could just get someone to make a variety of 15" tires of the
> >> correct aspect ratio and speed rating...
> >> I guess until then we'll just have to roll on bare rims down the
> >> street.
> >> <whoooops, I'm sorry, did I leave the sarcasm button on again?>
> >> Asa Jay
> >> Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
> >> Ed Mendez <[2]edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>> wrote:
> >> My Friend is Giuvann Fumagalli the owner of Marvic and he is 100%
> >> committed as long as we can get 30 wheels minimum.
> >> So who's in? I am getting one set I have 2 other people so now we only
> >> need about 6 more people.
> >> Ed
> >> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> >> > On May 28, 2015, at 10:12, Julian Kift <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > This friend wouldn't be Cesare Magistrali would it?
> >> >
> >> > If it is then I had many an email with Cesare and know he had
> >> drawings (plus some old molds I believe) and was supposedly going to
> >> cast the wide body 10 spoke Campi wheels, but it never went anywhere.
> >> Patrick Hals ended up having them commissioned (via Marvic I think) as
> >> Cesare wanted up front payment and no one was willing to commit to that
> >> sum for 30 sets of wheels, with little to no guarantee of delivery.
> >> >
> >> > Julian
> >> >
> >> > From: [4]edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>
> >> > Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 23:50:31 -0700
> >> > To: [5]detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
> >> > Subject: [DeTomaso] 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels
> >> >
> >> > All,
> >> >
> >> > I have some good news. Hopefully.
> >> >
> >> > I have a friend in Italy who owns a foundry and has the original
> >> drawings from DeTomaso of the 10x15 Pantera GTS wheels and all DeTomaso
> >> wheels ever made including the Mangusta wheels, but we are talking
> >> specifically of the 10x15 GTS wheels at the moment. As pictured.
> >> >
> >> > He can reproduce the wheels to exact specifications in Magnesium with
> >> all the latest technology and materials AZ91 Magnesium Alloy. He said
> >> he can offer them at 1500 Euros each (aprox. $1640usd). Not cheap but
> >> these are new Magnesium not 40 year old Magnesium, and these are not
> >> the aluminum knockoffs on eBay that are sold for $1400 each either.
> >> >
> >> > He currently has orders in Europe for 12 wheels (6 sets), and says if
> >> he gets orders for 30 wheels total (15 sets) he will make the molds at
> >> his expense and produce them. He says he can also produce the 8x15
> >> fronts as well.
> >> >
> >> > I need to know who might be interested.
> >> >
> >> > Please let me know.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks, Ed
> >> >
> >> > Ps. I am not making anything off this just doing it for all of you
> >> out there and I want to buy a set myself because they look bitchin.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> >> >
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> >> My Friend is Giuvann Fumagalli the owner of Marvic and he is 100%
> >> committed as long as we can get 30 wheels minimum.
> >> So who's in? I am getting one set I have 2 other people so now we
> >> only
> >> need about 6 more people.
> >> Ed
> >> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> >> On May 28, 2015, at 10:12, Julian Kift
> >> <[1][8]julian_kift at hotmail.com <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >> This friend wouldn't be Cesare Magistrali would it?
> >> If it is then I had many an email with Cesare and know he had
> >> drawings
> >> (plus some old molds I believe) and was supposedly going to cast the
> >> wide body 10 spoke Campi wheels, but it never went anywhere. Patrick
> >> Hals ended up having them commissioned (via Marvic I think) as
> >> Cesare
> >> wanted up front payment and no one was willing to commit to that sum
> >> for 30 sets of wheels, with little to no guarantee of delivery.
> >> Julian
> >> From: [2][9]edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>
> >> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 23:50:31 -0700
> >> To: [3][10]detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels
> >> All,
> >> I have some good news. Hopefully.
> >> I have a friend in Italy who owns a foundry and has the original
> >> drawings from D
> >> eTomaso of the 10x15 Pantera GTS wheels and all DeTomaso wheels ever
> >> made includ
> >> ing the Mangusta wheels, but we are talking specifically of the 10x15
> >> GTS wheels
> >> at the moment. As pictured.
> >> He can reproduce the wheels to exact specifications in Magnesium with
> >> all the la
> >> test technology and materials AZ91 Magnesium Alloy. He said he can
> >> offer them at
> >> 1500 Euros each (aprox. $1640usd). Not cheap but these are new
> >> Magnesium not 40
> >> year old Magnesium, and these are not the aluminum knockoffs on eBay
> >> that are s
> >> old for $1400 each either.
> >> He currently has orders in Europe for 12 wheels (6 sets), and says if
> >> he gets or
> >> ders for 30 wheels total (15 sets) he will make the molds at his
> >> expense and pro
> >> duce them. He says he can also produce the 8x15 fronts as well.
> >> I need to know who might be interested.
> >> Please let me know.
> >> Thanks, Ed
> >> Ps. I am not making anything off this just doing it for all of you out
> >> there and
> >> I want to buy a set myself because they look bitchin.
> >> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
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> >> 3. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com <mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> >> 4. mailto:edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>
> >> 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
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Only 10 x 15 no 17s at this time
Ed
Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
On May 28, 2015, at 12:01, Larry Weston <[1]lplugw at hotmail.com> wrote:
Ed,
Another question for your guy tonight. Could he create these in 17"
diameter?
That would allow a set of four Pirelli assimetricos, 225/50/15 up
front, 285/40/17 in the rear (ala George Pence's suggestion) mounted on
rims that look like a set.
Like you did Brian.
From: [2]edducati at mac.com
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 11:33:26 -0700
To: [3]bd8134 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels
CC: [4]detomaso at poca.com
I will verify tonight
Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> On May 28, 2015, at 11:28, Brian Dudley <[5]bd8134 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What wheel design would these be?
> I would only want the original long-ribbed style.
>
>> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Ed Mendez <[6]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>> He didn't say 30 complete sets he said he would make new molds if we
>> can get orders for 30 individual wheels and he already has 12 wheels on
>> order in Europe. So we only need 18 more wheels. So that is just 9
>> people who want 2 10x15's for the rear. I want 2 so that leaves 8 more
>> people. :-)
>>
>> Ed
>> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>>
>> On May 28, 2015, at 11:16, Asa Jay Laughton <[1][7]asajay at asajay.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hmmmm, sounds like the exact same deal to me. $6,560 for a set of four
>> wheels. We couldn't put that deal together last time to get 30 sets
>> made, but I guess this time all our Panteras are worth more now with
>> the market going up so that means we can better afford to buy these.
>> Now if we could just get someone to make a variety of 15" tires of the
>> correct aspect ratio and speed rating...
>> I guess until then we'll just have to roll on bare rims down the
>> street.
>> <whoooops, I'm sorry, did I leave the sarcasm button on again?>
>> Asa Jay
>> Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
>> Ed Mendez <[2][8]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>> My Friend is Giuvann Fumagalli the owner of Marvic and he is 100%
>> committed as long as we can get 30 wheels minimum.
>> So who's in? I am getting one set I have 2 other people so now we only
>> need about 6 more people.
>> Ed
>> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>> > On May 28, 2015, at 10:12, Julian Kift <[3][9]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > This friend wouldn't be Cesare Magistrali would it?
>> >
>> > If it is then I had many an email with Cesare and know he had
>> drawings (plus some old molds I believe) and was supposedly going to
>> cast the wide body 10 spoke Campi wheels, but it never went anywhere.
>> Patrick Hals ended up having them commissioned (via Marvic I think) as
>> Cesare wanted up front payment and no one was willing to commit to that
>> sum for 30 sets of wheels, with little to no guarantee of delivery.
>> >
>> > Julian
>> >
>> > From: [4][10]edducati at mac.com
>> > Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 23:50:31 -0700
>> > To: [5][11]detomaso at poca.com
>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels
>> >
>> > All,
>> >
>> > I have some good news. Hopefully.
>> >
>> > I have a friend in Italy who owns a foundry and has the original
>> drawings from DeTomaso of the 10x15 Pantera GTS wheels and all DeTomaso
>> wheels ever made including the Mangusta wheels, but we are talking
>> specifically of the 10x15 GTS wheels at the moment. As pictured.
>> >
>> > He can reproduce the wheels to exact specifications in Magnesium with
>> all the latest technology and materials AZ91 Magnesium Alloy. He said
>> he can offer them at 1500 Euros each (aprox. $1640usd). Not cheap but
>> these are new Magnesium not 40 year old Magnesium, and these are not
>> the aluminum knockoffs on eBay that are sold for $1400 each either.
>> >
>> > He currently has orders in Europe for 12 wheels (6 sets), and says if
>> he gets orders for 30 wheels total (15 sets) he will make the molds at
>> his expense and produce them. He says he can also produce the 8x15
>> fronts as well.
>> >
>> > I need to know who might be interested.
>> >
>> > Please let me know.
>> >
>> > Thanks, Ed
>> >
>> > Ps. I am not making anything off this just doing it for all of you
>> out there and I want to buy a set myself because they look bitchin.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum
>> Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso
>> mailing list [6][12]DeTomaso at poca.com
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>> above.
>> My Friend is Giuvann Fumagalli the owner of Marvic and he is 100%
>> committed as long as we can get 30 wheels minimum.
>> So who's in? I am getting one set I have 2 other people so now we
>> only
>> need about 6 more people.
>> Ed
>> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>> On May 28, 2015, at 10:12, Julian Kift
>> <[1][8][14]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> This friend wouldn't be Cesare Magistrali would it?
>> If it is then I had many an email with Cesare and know he had
>> drawings
>> (plus some old molds I believe) and was supposedly going to cast the
>> wide body 10 spoke Campi wheels, but it never went anywhere. Patrick
>> Hals ended up having them commissioned (via Marvic I think) as
>> Cesare
>> wanted up front payment and no one was willing to commit to that sum
>> for 30 sets of wheels, with little to no guarantee of delivery.
>> Julian
>> From: [2][9][15]edducati at mac.com
>> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 23:50:31 -0700
>> To: [3][10][16]detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels
>> All,
>> I have some good news. Hopefully.
>> I have a friend in Italy who owns a foundry and has the original
>> drawings from D
>> eTomaso of the 10x15 Pantera GTS wheels and all DeTomaso wheels ever
>> made includ
>> ing the Mangusta wheels, but we are talking specifically of the 10x15
>> GTS wheels
>> at the moment. As pictured.
>> He can reproduce the wheels to exact specifications in Magnesium with
>> all the la
>> test technology and materials AZ91 Magnesium Alloy. He said he can
>> offer them at
>> 1500 Euros each (aprox. $1640usd). Not cheap but these are new
>> Magnesium not 40
>> year old Magnesium, and these are not the aluminum knockoffs on eBay
>> that are s
>> old for $1400 each either.
>> He currently has orders in Europe for 12 wheels (6 sets), and says if
>> he gets or
>> ders for 30 wheels total (15 sets) he will make the molds at his
>> expense and pro
>> duce them. He says he can also produce the 8x15 fronts as well.
>> I need to know who might be interested.
>> Please let me know.
>> Thanks, Ed
>> Ps. I am not making anything off this just doing it for all of you out
>> there and
>> I want to buy a set myself because they look bitchin.
>> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>> _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum
>> Managed
>> by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing
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