[DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat

Tue May 19 13:42:49 EDT 2015

Murray 3398

Tomas

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat

What's the part number?
I missed that along the way.
thanks
dave

On 19/05/2015 10:18 AM, Tomas Gunnarsson wrote:
> Thanks Stephen, this is excellent info! I went to O'Reilley's site and they list a number of veicles for which this is a match. Among them is a Volvo model which should make it easy to find a local supplier here in Sweden.
>
> Tomas
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> From: "Stephen" <steve at snclocks.com>
> To: "'Tomas Gunnarsson'" <guson at home.se>
> Cc: <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
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>
> Funny story that - went to a number of auto parts houses, all came up with
> standard thermostats (with no blocking plate) for '73 mustang 351C.  Then I
> recalled that I had gotten a thermostat for my '70 XKE a few years ago from
> O'Reilly's - and that it is the same as for the Stangs.  So, off to my
> spares collection and found a spare thermostat that I bought in 2008.  In as
> much as O'Reilly's didn't list for the Jag I had asked for a thermostat for
> a '73 Mustang.  Funniest part is that I then went back to O'Reilly's with
> the part number and bought 2 more for spares.  Also checked with them -
> there are lots more at other locations.
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> Murray 3398
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> Interestingly, the three I have all have different actuators, but overall
> the same dimensions.
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> Hope that helps.
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> Stephen Nelson
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> From: Tomas Gunnarsson [mailto:guson at home.se]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:09 AM
> To: steve at snclocks.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
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> Stephen,
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> What brand thermostat are you running?
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> Tomas
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> From: Stephen [steve at snclocks.com]
> Sent: 19/5/2015 6:03:18 AM
> To: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
>
> Interestingly thermodynamics suggests the higher the engine temperature
> (within limits) the higher the efficiency. And, as pointed out, less risk of
> washing oil off the walls of the cylinders. I'm running a 190 F thermostat
> with spring-loaded plate to block off the bypass when the thermostat is
> open.
>
> Stephen Nelson
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> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of B Hower via
> DeTomaso
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 5:58 PM
> To: Rob Pulsifer; detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
>
> They claim that the metal of the cylinder walls wear less at higher
> temperatures starting at around 170°. I have no printed reference. This is
> just from my memory. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for
> there may not be ! )
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> From: Rob Pulsifer via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com
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> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:27 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
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> I am currently running a 160 degree thermostat, the engine will hold that
> temperature while on the hwy. I drove over 50 miles, when I stopped I found
> that I had left the cap of the swirl tank. The engine didn't over heat, only
> loss 2 cups of water. The car came stock with a 160 degree thermostat. I now
> understand that the 180 degree thermostat is better. Outside of the
> temperature will be more constant, I really don't see the advantage of a 180
> degree thermostat.
>
> Robert Pulsifer
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> Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals- sort of- the
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
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> Folks,Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil overaluminum shock.
> Purchased 3/2005. Although likely only 2000 miles on carsince then, they
> leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding ashock by yourself is
> doable? Alden isin CA, and it would cost more to shipand pay rebuild charge
> than buy a new Shock likely!!!Also any hints in frontshock
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> Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals- sort of- the
> external damping adjustment near the bottom, not at the shock rod
> (which is much more serious). Hall used to repair them when they sold
> the things. Who did you buy it from?
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
> From: [1]detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
> Folks, Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil over aluminum shock.
> Purchased 3/200 5. Although likely only
> 2000 miles on car since then,
> they leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding a shock by
> yourself is doable? Alden is in CA, and it would cost more to ship and
> pay rebuild charge than buy a new Shoc k likely!!! Also any hints in
> front shock removal? Thanks!!!!
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> Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 17:11:58 -0400
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> It's not a party until somebody gets hurt!
> [image: Inline image 1]
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> Rob DuMoulin
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> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com
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>> Pretty cool:
>> [1]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test
>>
> -drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=
>> 1
>> NOT combustion, makes electricity, does not burn the hydrogen, uses >
> hydrogen cell technology:
>> [2]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segment_F
>>
> CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
>> Maybe the end of battery powered cars?
> batteries are generally terrible
>> for the environment, so this seems a lot better. Maybe weighs a lot >
> less, doesn't need hours to charge.
>> Ken
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1.
>>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test-drove-t
> he-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test-drove-
> the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1> &wpmm=1
>> 2.
>>
> http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segment_FCV|Hydro
> gen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
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> It's not a party until somebody gets hurt!
> Inline image 1
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> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
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> [2]www.kbsi.co <http://www.kbsi.co>
> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
> <[4]detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com> >
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> A A Pretty cool:
> A
> A [1][5]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11
> /we-test
> A
> A
> -drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&
> wpmm=
> A A 1
> A A NOT combustion, makes
> electricity, does not burn the hydrogen,
> uses
> A A hydrogen cell
> technology:
> A
> A [2][6]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|S
> egment_F
> A A
> CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
> A A Maybe the end of battery
> powered cars? batteries are generally
> terrible
> A A for the environment, so
> this seems a lot better.A Maybe weighs
> a lot
> A A less, doesn't need hours
> to charge.
> A A Ken
> References
> A A 1.
> [7]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-t
>
> est-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech
> &wpmm=1
> A A 2.
> [8]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segmen
>
> t_FCV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
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> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test-drove-
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> Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 22:07:38 -0400
> From: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com <mailto:panteratime at aol.com> >
> To: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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> Folks,
> Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic. Should I still
> use that or better to go with conventional oil? recommendations? thanks
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> Folks,
>
> Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic. Should
> I still use that or better to go with conventional oil?
> recommendations? thanks
>
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> Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 19:42:56 -0700
> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com> >
> To: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com <mailto:panteratime at aol.com> >
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com> "
> <detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com> >
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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> 75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF.
>
> Ed
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
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>> On May 16, 2015, at 19:07, Panteratime via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com
> <mailto:detomaso at poca.com> >
> wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> Last time I changed ZF oil I used
> Mobil 1 75-90. Synthetic.
> Should
>> I still use that or better to go with conventional oil?
>> recommendations? thanks
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> Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 02:36:17 -0400
> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com <mailto:pantdino at aol.com> >
> To: panteratime at aol.com <mailto:panteratime at aol.com> ,
> detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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>
> RedLine 75-90 NS (synthetic)
>
> I get mine on Amazon, usually with free shipping
>
> Here's Les Gray's email from a while ago:
>
>
>
>
>
> The Red Line oil NSdesignation means that in this particular oil there is NO
> additive added to reduce the clutch chatter in most limited slip
> differentials.
> Normally this additive is a good thing and almost mandatory in cars like the
> Corvette which has a fairly high degree of limited slip lock up.
> Our cars have a two issues with
> these extra slipperyadditives. Number
> one is our diff uses a rather low limited slip lock up so this extra slip
> actually decreases what little lock up we have. Number two is this
> additivewill inhibit our synchro rings abili
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