[DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Tue May 19 00:26:15 EDT 2015


Yes, the NASCAR guys run at the highest temps they can withstand to get the nth degree of added power--240-250 degrees is not uncommon....

Mike

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On May 18, 2015, at 23:03, "Stephen" <steve at snclocks.com> wrote:

> Interestingly thermodynamics suggests the higher the engine temperature (within limits) the higher the efficiency.  And, as pointed out, less risk of washing oil off the walls of the cylinders.  I'm running a 190 F thermostat with spring-loaded plate to block off the bypass when the thermostat is open.
> 
> Stephen Nelson
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> They claim that the metal of the cylinder walls wear less at higher temperatures starting at around 170°. I have no printed reference. This is just from my memory. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
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>     From: Rob Pulsifer via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
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> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:27 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] 160 degree thermostat vs 180 degree thermostat
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> I am currently running a 160 degree thermostat, the engine will hold that temperature while on the hwy.  I drove over 50 miles, when I stopped I found that I had left the cap of the swirl tank.  The engine didn't over heat, only loss 2 cups of water.  The car came stock with a 160 degree thermostat.  I now understand that the 180 degree thermostat is better.  Outside of the temperature will be more constant, I really don't see the advantage of a 180 degree thermostat.
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> Many Alden shocks leak from the simple o-ring that seals-  sort of- the external damping adjustment near the bottom,  not at the shock rod (which is much more serious). Hall used  to repair them when they sold the things. Who did you buy it  from?
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> Folks,Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil overaluminum  shock.   Purchased  3/2005.   Although likely only 2000 miles on  carsince then, they leak!!!   Anyone know of  a rebuild kit or if rebuilding  ashock by yourself is  doable?   Alden isin CA, and it would cost  more to shipand pay rebuild charge than buy a new Shock  likely!!!Also any hints in frontshock  removal?Thanks!!!!  _______________________________________________ Detomaso  Forum Managed   byPOCA Posted emails must not  exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing   listDeTomaso at poca.com   http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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>    Many Alden shocks leak from the simple  o-ring that seals- sort of- the
>    external damping adjustment near the  bottom, not at the shock rod
>    (which is much more serious). Hall used to  repair them when they sold
>    the things. Who did you buy it from?
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>    -----Original Message-----
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
>     From: [1]detomaso at poca.com
>    Folks, Noticed oil leaking from front  Alden coil over aluminum shock.
>    Purchased 3/200 5. Although likely only
> 2000 miles on car since then,
>    they leak!!! Anyone know of a rebuild kit  or if rebuilding a shock by
>    yourself is doable? Alden is in CA, and it  would cost more to ship and
>    pay rebuild charge than buy a new Shoc k  likely!!! Also any hints in
>    front shock removal? Thanks!!!!
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> Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 17:11:58 -0400
> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPT Hydrogen powered Toyota
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> It's not a party until somebody gets hurt!
> [image: Inline image 1]
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> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
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> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso  <detomaso at poca.com>
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>>    Pretty cool:
>>   [1]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test
> -drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=
>>   1
>>   NOT combustion, makes electricity, does  not burn the hydrogen, uses  >    hydrogen cell technology:
>>   [2]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segment_F
> CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
>>   Maybe the end of battery powered cars?
> batteries are generally terrible
>>   for the environment, so this seems a lot  better.  Maybe weighs a lot  >    less, doesn't need hours to charge.
>>   Ken
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>   1.
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-test-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1
>>   2.
>> http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segment_FCV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
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>    It's not a party until somebody gets  hurt!
>    Inline image 1
> 
>    Rob DuMoulin
>    904.476.8744
>    [1]rob at dumoulins.net
>    [2]www.kbsi.co
>    [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>    On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ken Green  via DeTomaso
>    <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
> 
>      A  A  Pretty cool:
>      A
>      A [1][5]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11
>      /we-test
>      A
>      A
> -drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech&
>      wpmm=
>      A  A 1
>      A  A NOT combustion, makes
> electricity, does not burn the hydrogen,
>      uses
>      A  A hydrogen cell
> technology:
>      A
>      A [2][6]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|S
>      egment_F
>      A  A
> CV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
>      A  A Maybe the end of battery
> powered cars? batteries are generally
>      terrible
>      A  A for the environment, so
> this seems a lot better.A  Maybe weighs
>      a lot
>      A  A less, doesn't need hours
> to charge.
>      A  A Ken
>      References
>      A  A 1.
>      [7]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/05/11/we-t
> 
>    est-drove-the-toyota-future-car-that-elon-musk-hates/?wpisrc=nl_tech
>      &wpmm=1
>      A  A 2.
>      [8]http://www.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html?srchid=sem|google|FCV|Segmen
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>    t_FCV|Hydrogen_Technology|FCV+Copy+Refresh+4.22|Mirai_MLP
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> Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 22:07:38 -0400
> From: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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> 
> Folks,
> Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1  75-90.   Synthetic.    Should I  still use that or better to go with conventional  oil?   recommendations?  thanks
> -------------- next part --------------
>    Folks,
> 
>    Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1  75-90.   Synthetic.    Should
>    I still use that or better to go with  conventional oil?
>    recommendations?  thanks
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 19:42:56 -0700
> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> To: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
> Message-ID: <77E2AF59-616B-4C18-B6AC-286D23786B0A at mac.com>
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> 75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF.
> 
> Ed 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> 
>> On May 16, 2015, at 19:07, Panteratime via DeTomaso  <detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>>  Folks,
>> 
>>  Last time I changed ZF oil I used
> Mobil 1 75-90.   Synthetic.
> Should
>>  I still use that or better to go with  conventional oil?
>>  recommendations?  thanks
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> Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 02:36:17 -0400
> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> To: panteratime at aol.com,
> detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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> 
> 
> RedLine 75-90 NS (synthetic)
> 
> I get mine on Amazon, usually with free shipping
> 
> Here's Les Gray's email from a while ago:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The Red Line oil NSdesignation means that in this particular  oil there is NO  additive added to reduce the clutch chatter in most limited  slip differentials.
> Normally this additive is a good thing and almost mandatory  in cars like the  Corvette which has a fairly high degree of limited slip lock  up. 
>      Our cars have a two issues with
> these extra slipperyadditives. Number
> one is our diff uses a rather low limited slip lock up so  this extra slip  actually decreases what little lock up we have. Number two  is this additivewill  inhibit our synchro rings ability to do its job and in  extreme cases will burn  up the synchro rings and the towers on the gears costing big  bucks. 
>     I've rebuilt ZF's since the late 1970's and  have replaceddozens of synchro  rings & gear sets due to the use of these additives. 
>   As Jack DeRyke says "your mileage may vary" !!!!
> 
> 
> Jim Oddie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Panteratime via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Sat, May 16, 2015 7:07 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
> 
> 
> Folks,
> 
>    Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1  75-90.   Synthetic.  Should
>    I still use that or better to go with  conventional oil?
> 
> recommendations?  thanks
> 
> 
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>    RedLine 75-90 NS (synthetic)
> 
> 
> 
>    I get mine on Amazon, usually with free  shipping
> 
> 
> 
>    Here's Les Gray's email from a while ago:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    The Red Line oil NS designation means that  in this particular oil there
>    is NO
>    additive added to reduce the clutch
> chatter in most limited slip
>    differentials.
>    Normally this additive is a good thing and  almost mandatory in cars
>    like the
>    Corvette which has a fairly high degree of  limited slip lock up.
>         Our cars have a two issues with  these extra slippery additives.
>    Number
>    one is our diff uses a rather low limited  slip lock up so this extra
>    slip
>    actually decreases what little lock up we  have. Number two is this
>    additive will
>    inhibit our synchro rings ability to do  its job and in extreme cases
>    will burn
>    up the synchro rings and the towers on the  gears costing big bucks.
>        I've rebuilt ZF's since the
> late 1970's and have replaced dozens of
>    synchro
>    rings & gear sets due to the use of
> these additives.
>      As Jack DeRyke says "your mileage
> may vary" !!!!
> 
>    Jim Oddie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Panteratime via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>    To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Sat, May 16, 2015 7:07 pm
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
> Folks,
> 
>    Last time I changed ZF oil I used Mobil 1  75-90.   Synthetic.
> Should
>    I still use that or better to go with  conventional oil?
> 
> recommendations?  thanks
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 02:40:57 -0400
> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> To: edducati at mac.com, panteratime at aol.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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> 
> 
> "75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF".
> 
> 
> Sorry Ed, but I think that's nonsense.
> 
> IF you do use dinosaur oil, it should probably be GL-4 (NOT
> GL-4 -GL-5) and not have any limited slip additive.
> GL-5 oil has sulfur additives that harm yellow metals like  brass, which trannies / synchro rings have.
> 
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> To: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>
> Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Sat, May 16, 2015 7:43 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
> 
> 
> 75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF.
> 
> Ed 
> 
> Sent from my
> iPhone 6 Plus
> 
>> On May 16, 2015, at 19:07, Panteratime via DeTomaso  <detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>>  Folks,
>> 
>>  Last time I changed ZF oil I
> used Mobil 1 75-90.   Synthetic.
> Should
>>  I still use that or better to go
> with conventional oil?
>>  recommendations?  thanks
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>    "75-90 conventional don't recommend synth  in the ZF".
> 
> 
> 
>    Sorry Ed, but I think that's nonsense.
> 
> 
> 
>    IF you do use dinosaur oil, it should  probably be GL-4 (NOT GL-4 -GL-5)
>    and not have any limited slip
> additive.  GL-5 oil has sulfur additives
>    that harm yellow metals like brass, which  trannies / synchro
>    rings have.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    Jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
>    To: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>
>    Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Sat, May 16, 2015 7:43 pm
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
> 75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF.
> 
> Ed
> 
> Sent from my
> iPhone 6 Plus
> 
>> On May 16, 2015, at 19:07, Panteratime via DeTomaso  <[1]detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>>  Folks,
>> 
>>  Last time I changed ZF oil I
> used Mobil 1 75-90.   Synthetic.
> Should
>>  I still use that or better to go
> with conventional oil?
>>  recommendations?  thanks
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 00:55:06 -0700
> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> Cc: panteratime at aol.com,
> "detomaso at poca.com"
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
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> Castrol non synthetic 80W90 Hypoy Gear Oil is rated API GL-5  LS which has friction modifying additives and supposed to be  recommended by RBT.
> 
> Although, I understand it depends whether you have brass or  cast iron synchros. If you have the brass synchos then I  think you have to use the Redline 75/90 NS?
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On May 16, 2015, at 23:40, Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>> "75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF".
>> 
>> Sorry Ed, but I think that's nonsense.
>> 
>> IF you do use dinosaur oil, it should probably be GL-4  (NOT GL-4 -GL-5) and not have any limited slip  additive.  GL-5 oil has sulfur additives that harm  yellow metals like brass, which trannies / synchro rings  have.
>> 
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
>> To: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>  > Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>  > Sent: Sat, May 16, 2015 7:43 pm  > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice  >  > 75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> Sent from my
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>>> On May 16, 2015, at 19:07, Panteratime via  DeTomaso  > <detomaso at poca.com  <mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Folks,
>>> 
>>>  Last time I changed ZF oil I
>> used Mobil 1 75-90.   Synthetic.
>   Should
>>>  I still use that or better to go
>> with conventional oil?
>>>  recommendations?  thanks
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>    Castrol non synthetic 80W90 Hypoy Gear Oil  is rated API GL-5 LS which
>    has friction modifying additives and  supposed to be recommended by RBT.
> 
>    Although, I understand it depends whether  you have brass or cast
>    iron synchros. If you have the brass  synchos then I think you have to
>    use the Redline 75/90 NS?
>    Ed
> 
>    On May 16, 2015, at 23:40, Pantdino
> <[1]pantdino at aol.com>
> wrote:
> 
>    "75-90 conventional don't recommend synth  in the ZF".
> 
>    Sorry Ed, but I think that's nonsense.
> 
>    IF you do use dinosaur oil, it should  probably be GL-4 (NOT GL-4 -GL-5)
>    and not have any limited slip
> additive.  GL-5 oil has sulfur additives
>    that harm yellow metals like brass, which  trannies / synchro
>    rings have.
> 
> 
>    Jim
> 
> 
> 
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Ed Mendez <[2]edducati at mac.com>
>    To: Panteratime <[3]panteratime at aol.com>
>    Cc: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Sat, May 16, 2015 7:43 pm
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF oil choice
> 75-90 conventional don't recommend synth in the ZF.
> 
> Ed
> 
> Sent from my
> iPhone 6 Plus
> 
>> On May 16, 2015, at 19:07, Panteratime via DeTomaso  <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>>  Folks,
>> 
>>  Last time I changed ZF oil I
> used Mobil 1 75-90.   Synthetic.
> Should
>>  I still use that or better to go
> with conventional oil?
>>  recommendations?  thanks
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 02:13:38 -0700
> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Panteratime <panteratime at aol.com>,
> "detomaso at poca.com"
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock Repair
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> Yes, they rebuilt all 4 of my shocks for free, plus replaced  the bent shafts inside of each shocks. The car sat for 20  plus years and was never driven so at some point the shocks  seized up. So when I started driving it, all the shafts bent  because there was no damping action. Drove it for 3000 miles  that way. I thought it handled funny. hahaha
> 
> 
>> On May 16, 2015, at 08:29, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>>  Sounds like a standard Alden shock to  me..... Your best bet is to speak  >   with and arrange to ship them back to  Alden, their repair is usually  >   free.
>>  Julian
>>  Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 11:15:16 -0400  >   To: detomaso at poca.com  >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Alden Shock  Repair  >   From: detomaso at poca.com  >  > Folks,  > Noticed oil leaking from front Alden coil over aluminum  shock.   Purchased 3/200  > 5.   Although likely only 2000 miles on  car since then, they leak!!!   Anyone kn  > ow of a rebuild kit or if rebuilding  a shock by  yourself is doable?   Alden is  > in CA, and it would cost more to ship and pay rebuild  charge than buy a new Shoc  > k likely!!!
>> Also any hints in front shock removal?
>> Thanks!!!!
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 08:48:07 -0500
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Random fun rally pics
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> Guys,
> 
> A couple of pics from the track yesterday. Probably more  than 30 Panteras present, most of which were on the track.
> Tom Upton's monster hauler served as the base of
> operations:
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> Kirby Schrader dropped a tiny bolt from his webers into an  impossible cavity in the engine and spent more than an hour  trying to get it out. He was not having fun here:
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> He got it eventually! Cars back on track today but many of  us are going to the Gullo museum instead. 
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> Where are YOUR photos?
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> Mike
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