[DeTomaso] Steering rack follies (and a warning...)

Boyd Casey boyd411 at gmail.com
Mon May 18 18:26:32 EDT 2015


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Boyd

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 3:57 PM, marshall smith <
marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> So very well said by you Mr. Casey.
>
> Mike has always been there for ANY of us that have asked or needed his
> help and information. He has helped me an endless number of times with my
> questions. Mike has done more for us as club members and car owners than
> anyone else with exception of Jack DeRyke who runs a very close second
> furnishing the advice that makes our cars better and keeps them on the road.
>
> Hard to believe Mike could get any better but then Lori comes along!! A
> generous giving couple that puts the car and members ahead of everything
> else. They are the largest asset this club possesses! We are lucky to have
> them and call them friends.
>
> Marshall
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 5/13/15, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steering rack follies (and a warning...)
>  To: "576103" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>  Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>  Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 4:39 PM
>
>     Mike,
>     When I first met Chris Difani he told me
>  about this POCA member named
>     Mike Drew who rebuilt steering racks for
>  people as a hobby and just
>     because he was a nice guy. I was more then
>  a little skeptical (being
>     from NYC,) where people generally don't do
>  things for other people (
>     especially when the thing they are doing
>  is an expensive job.) But Low
>     and behold over the years the stories of
>  Mike drew rebuilding Racks for
>     Pantera owners proved to be 100% accurate
>  and that was only a small
>     part of the story. This mystery man also
>  transported parts all over the
>     globe, when there was a part that you just
>  couldn't find chances are
>     Mike drew had it and he would sell it to
>  you without gaffing you and on
>     top of all of this he also wrote A
>  articles for the Poca newsletter and
>     could answer just about any question
>  concerning DeTomaso history. And
>     now you have become a television
>  personality putting to rest the
>     negative reputation that has haunted
>  Panteras since 1971. I would like
>     to take this opportunity to thank you for
>  doing so much for so many so
>     unselfishly. And now your lovely bride
>  Lori has been enlisted to join
>     you in your "good works" . POCA should
>  take some of the reported
>     $125,000 in the kitty to erect a monument
>  to the Drew's for all they
>     have done to promote our favorite Marque!
>  Thank you Mike and Lori you
>     two are the best and represent the epitome
>  of what makes Pantera owners
>     so special.
>     Sincerely,
>     Hugh Boyd Casey
>
>     On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Mike Drew
>  via DeTomaso
>     <[1]detomaso at poca.com>
>  wrote:
>
>       A  A In a message dated
>  5/12/15 22 33 50, [2]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com
>       writes:
>       A  A  A Thanks for
>  sharing this information.A  The '74 I just bought
>       came
>       A  A  A with a stack of
>  receipts from "Panteras by Wilkinson" in
>       Southern
>       A  A  A California. One
>  of the receipts from 2005 lists a rebuilt
>       steering
>       A  A  A rack.A  The
>  receipt does not show the mileage but based on
>       other
>       A  A  A receipts around
>  the same time I estimate the mileage at
>       about 15,000
>       A  A  A at the time.
>       A  A >>>That seems
>  absurdly low to rebuild the steering rack?A  They
>       don't
>       A  A normally start showing
>  wear until 30K or more.A  I suppose
>       there is no
>       A  A harm in performing a
>  lifetime fix before it *needs* to be fixed
>       though.
>       A  A  A > The car now
>  has about 24,000 miles.A  When I was under the
>       car I
>       A  A  A did notice the
>  boots still look clean and new with no sign
>       of
>       A  A  A leaking.
>       A  A >>>Which either
>  means they are working as designed (they often
>       do), or
>       A  A all the oil has leaked
>  out already, or the rack has been
>       rebuilt using
>       A  A grease instead of oil.
>       A  A  A >The car
>  tracks straight without any wondering and I haven't
>       noticed
>       A  A  A any noise. Is
>  there any way to tell if it was properly done
>       aside
>       A  A  A from waiting to
>  see if it fails?
>       A  A >>>Short of
>  taking it apart, no, not really?A  I've never heard
>       of a
>       A  A rack failure from
>  Wilkinson so I would sleep pretty soundly if
>       I were
>       A  A you.
>       A  A  A > I take it
>  that the boots should be packed with grease
>       rather than
>       A  A  A oil?
>       A  A >>>It's not the
>  boots, but rather the inner workings of the
>       rack itself
>       A  A that need to be
>  lubricated.A  Whether one uses oil or
>       lightweight moly
>       A  A grease is a matter for
>  debate; what's positive is that if oil
>       is used
>       A  A and the oil has leaked
>  out, that's a bad thing. :<(
>       A  A  A >I'm sorry to
>  miss out on the Fun Rally this year. I'll try
>       to plan
>       A  A  A for next year!
>       A  A >>>You'll love
>  it!
>       A  A Mike
>
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   And lets not forget S.O.Bill! The wizard of electronics!
   Boyd

   On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 3:57 PM, marshall smith
   <[1]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

     So very well said by you Mr. Casey.
     Mike has always been there for ANY of us that have asked or needed
     his help and information. He has helped me an endless number of
     times with my questions. Mike has done more for us as club members
     and car owners than anyone else with exception of Jack DeRyke who
     runs a very close second furnishing the advice that makes our cars
     better and keeps them on the road.
     Hard to believe Mike could get any better but then Lori comes
     along!! A generous giving couple that puts the car and members ahead
     of everything else. They are the largest asset this club possesses!
     We are lucky to have them and call them friends.
     Marshall
     --------------------------------------------
     On Wed, 5/13/15, Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
     A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steering rack follies (and a warning...)
     A To: "576103" <[3]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
     A Cc: "[4]detomaso at poca.com" <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
     A Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 4:39 PM
     A A A A Mike,
     A A A A When I first met Chris Difani he told me
     A about this POCA member named
     A A A A Mike Drew who rebuilt steering racks for
     A people as a hobby and just
     A A A A because he was a nice guy. I was more then
     A a little skeptical (being
     A A A A from NYC,) where people generally don't do
     A things for other people (
     A A A A especially when the thing they are doing
     A is an expensive job.) But Low
     A A A A and behold over the years the stories of
     A Mike drew rebuilding Racks for
     A A A A Pantera owners proved to be 100% accurate
     A and that was only a small
     A A A A part of the story. This mystery man also
     A transported parts all over the
     A A A A globe, when there was a part that you just
     A couldn't find chances are
     A A A A Mike drew had it and he would sell it to
     A you without gaffing you and on
     A A A A top of all of this he also wrote A
     A articles for the Poca newsletter and
     A A A A could answer just about any question
     A concerning DeTomaso history. And
     A A A A now you have become a television
     A personality putting to rest the
     A A A A negative reputation that has haunted
     A Panteras since 1971. I would like
     A A A A to take this opportunity to thank you for
     A doing so much for so many so
     A A A A unselfishly. And now your lovely bride
     A Lori has been enlisted to join
     A A A A you in your "good works" . POCA should
     A take some of the reported
     A A A A $125,000 in the kitty to erect a monument
     A to the Drew's for all they
     A A A A have done to promote our favorite Marque!
     A Thank you Mike and Lori you
     A A A A two are the best and represent the epitome
     A of what makes Pantera owners
     A A A A so special.
     A A A A Sincerely,
     A A A A Hugh Boyd Casey
     A A A A On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Mike Drew
     A via DeTomaso
     A A A A <[1][6]detomaso at poca.com>
     A wrote:
     A A  A A A AA  A In a message dated
     A 5/12/15 22 33 50, [2][7]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com
     A A  A A A writes:
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A Thanks for
     A sharing this information.AA  The '74 I just bought
     A A  A A A came
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A with a stack of
     A receipts from "Panteras by Wilkinson" in
     A A  A A A Southern
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A California. One
     A of the receipts from 2005 lists a rebuilt
     A A  A A A steering
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A rack.AA  The
     A receipt does not show the mileage but based on
     A A  A A A other
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A receipts around
     A the same time I estimate the mileage at
     A A  A A A about 15,000
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A at the time.
     A A  A A A AA  A >>>That seems
     A absurdly low to rebuild the steering rack?AA  They
     A A  A A A don't
     A A  A A A AA  A normally start showing
     A wear until 30K or more.AA  I suppose
     A A  A A A there is no
     A A  A A A AA  A harm in performing a
     A lifetime fix before it *needs* to be fixed
     A A  A A A though.
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A > The car now
     A has about 24,000 miles.AA  When I was under the
     A A  A A A car I
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A did notice the
     A boots still look clean and new with no sign
     A A  A A A of
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A leaking.
     A A  A A A AA  A >>>Which either
     A means they are working as designed (they often
     A A  A A A do), or
     A A  A A A AA  A all the oil has leaked
     A out already, or the rack has been
     A A  A A A rebuilt using
     A A  A A A AA  A grease instead of oil.
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A >The car
     A tracks straight without any wondering and I haven't
     A A  A A A noticed
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A any noise. Is
     A there any way to tell if it was properly done
     A A  A A A aside
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A from waiting to
     A see if it fails?
     A A  A A A AA  A >>>Short of
     A taking it apart, no, not really?AA  I've never heard
     A A  A A A of a
     A A  A A A AA  A rack failure from
     A Wilkinson so I would sleep pretty soundly if
     A A  A A A I were
     A A  A A A AA  A you.
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A > I take it
     A that the boots should be packed with grease
     A A  A A A rather than
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A oil?
     A A  A A A AA  A >>>It's not the
     A boots, but rather the inner workings of the
     A A  A A A rack itself
     A A  A A A AA  A that need to be
     A lubricated.AA  Whether one uses oil or
     A A  A A A lightweight moly
     A A  A A A AA  A grease is a matter for
     A debate; what's positive is that if oil
     A A  A A A is used
     A A  A A A AA  A and the oil has leaked
     A out, that's a bad thing. :<(
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A >I'm sorry to
     A miss out on the Fun Rally this year. I'll try
     A A  A A A to plan
     A A  A A A AA  AA  A for next year!
     A A  A A A AA  A >>>You'll love
     A it!
     A A  A A A AA  A Mike
     A A
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