[DeTomaso] Fwd: The Buffett Rule

cengles at cox.net cengles at cox.net
Wed May 13 13:37:22 EDT 2015


Dear Ken,


                   Well said, sir.


                                         Warmest regards, Chuck Engles


On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote:

> While the core of the forum is our specific interest in Panteras, I 
> think there is a valid argument that that happens in Washington can 
> affect our freedom to continue enjoying our cars. 
> As long as we don't get too carried away, it seems valid to 
> share general thoughts.  I think a lot of us have built long range 
> friendships through the forum with people we may never meet, and it is 
> natural to share our thoughts with friends.  It is easy enough to 
> delete the rest of a string of posts if you are not interested in 
> them.  Ken
>        From: Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>  To: Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>; "detomaso at poca.com" 
> <detomaso at poca.com>  Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 9:57 AM
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: The Buffett Rule
>      Paul - no, the problem is that you haven't figured out how to 
> filter
>   out certain email addresses and send those messages straight to the
>   trash :-)
>   On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 8:16 AM, Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>
>   wrote:
>   The problem is that this is a political email, that has nothing to 
> do
>   with DeTomaso cars.  In the past, political emails usually result in 
> an
>   argument.
>   So in the future, can you please send these email directly to
>   recipients, and not to the DeTomaso list?
>   Paul
>   #9270
>   On 5/13/2015 10:04 AM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>   >    Regardless of your feelings about Warren Buffet , what problems 
> do
>   you
>   >    see with the suggestions listed? If I hadn't mentioned Warren
>   Buffet's
>   >    connection would you find fault with these proposals?
>   >    Boyd
>   >
>   >    On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Bill Moore
>   <[1][1]bill at incendium.com>
>   >    wrote:
>   >
>   >    Warren is part of the problem, but heaven forbid......
>   >    Cheers,
>   >    Bill Moore
>   >    Incendium Supply
>   >    Calgary
>   >    -------- Original message --------
>   >    From: Boyd Casey <[2][2]boyd411 at gmail.com>
>   >    Date: 2015-05-12 1:35 PM (GMT-07:00)
>   >    To: [3][3]detomaso at poca.com
>   >    Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: The Buffett Rule
>   >    NPC Warren Buffets suggestion to fix problems with the Senate,
>   >    Congress,
>   >    and the economy. If you agree forward it to 20 people, if you
>   disagree
>   >    delete it or do nothing.
>   >    A A A A A A A  a a
>   >    A A A A A A A A A  *WHO CAN ARGUE WITH THIS MESSAGE?*
>   >    Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to 
> a
>   >    minimum
>   >    of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of 
> those
>   to do
>   >    likewise.A A  In three days, most people in The United States 
> of
>   >    America will
>   >    have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed
>   around.
>   >    A A A  *I REPORT, YOU DECIDE.*
>   >    A  *The BUFFETT Rule*
>   >    A  We must support this - pass it on and letas see if these 
> idiots
>   >    understand what people pressure is all about.
>   >    A  Salary of retired US Presidents .. . . . .. . . . . .. .
>   $180,000
>   >    FOR LIFE
>   >    A  Salary of House/Senate members .. . . . .. . . . $174,000 
> FOR
>   LIFE
>   >    This
>   >    is stupid
>   >    A  Salary of Speaker of the House .. . . . .. . . . . $223,500 
> FOR
>   LIFE
>   >    This
>   >    is really stupid
>   >    A  Salary of Majority/Minority Leaders . . .. . . . . $193,400 
> FOR
>   LIFE
>   >    Ditto last line
>   >    A  Average Salary of a teacher . . .. . . . .. . . . . .. ..
>   $40,065
>   >    A  Average Salary of a deployed Soldier . . .. . . .. $38,000
>   >    A  I think we found where the cuts should be made! If you agree
>   pass it
>   >    on,
>   >    as I just did.
>   >    A  Warren Buffet, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one 
> of
>   the
>   >    best
>   >    quotes about the debt ceiling:
>   >    A  "I could end the deficit in five minutes," he told CNBC. 
> "You
>   just
>   >    pass a
>   >    law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% 
> of
>   GDP,
>   >    all
>   >    sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election".
>   >    A  The 26th Amendment (granting the right to vote for 18
>   year-olds)
>   >    took
>   >    only three months and eight days to be ratified! Why? Simple! 
> The
>   >    people
>   >    demanded it. That was in 1971 - before computers, e-mail, cell
>   phones,
>   >    etc.
>   >    A  Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one
>   (1)
>   >    year or
>   >    less to become the law of the land - all because of public
>   pressure.
>   >    A  Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email 
> to
>   a
>   >    minimum
>   >    of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of 
> those
>   to do
>   >    likewise.
>   >    A  In three days, most people in The United States of America 
> will
>   have
>   >    the
>   >    message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.
>   >    A  Congressional Reform Act of 2015
>   >    A  1. No Tenure / No Pension.A  A Congressman/woman collects a
>   salary
>   >    while
>   >    in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.
>   >    A  2. Congress (past, present, & future) participates in Social
>   >    Security.
>   >    A  All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the
>   Social
>   >    Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the 
> Social
>   >    Security
>   >    system, and Congress participates with the American people. It 
> may
>   not
>   >    be
>   >    used for any other purpose.
>   >    A  3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as 
> all
>   >    Americans
>   >    do.
>   >    A  4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
>   >    Congressional pay
>   >    will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
>   >    A  5. Congress loses their current health care system and
>   participates
>   >    in
>   >    the same health care system as the American people.
>   >    A  6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on 
> the
>   >    American
>   >    people.
>   >    A  7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are
>   void
>   >    effective 12/1/15. The American people did not make this 
> contract
>   with
>   >    Congressmen/women.
>   >    A  Congress made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in
>   >    Congress is
>   >    an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen
>   >    legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home 
> and
>   go
>   >    back
>   >    to work.
>   >    A  If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people, then it
>   will
>   >    only
>   >    take three days for most people (in the U.S.) to receive the
>   message.
>   >    Don't
>   >    you think it's time?
>   >    A  THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!
>   >    A  If you agree, pass it on. If not, delete.
>   >    Click here
>   >
>   
> <[4][4]https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/onrMn65+bgHGX2PQPOmvUjg7ce8j6mWJp
>   uVs
>   >    2W40G1Wo21iLC6oYPw2mTOTehr9A4XLlilPZwRH3vm7b4Ic+!w==>
>   >    to report this email as spam.
>   >    A A  =
>   >    A A  NPC Warren Buffets suggestion to fix problems with the
>   Senate,
>   >    A A  Congress, and the economy. If you agree forward it to 20
>   people,
>   >    if you
>   >    A A  disagree delete it or do nothing.
>   >    A A  a a
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  WHO CAN ARGUE WITH THIS MESSAGE?
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this 
> email
>   to a
>   >    A A  minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn 
> ask
>   each
>   >    of
>   >    A A  those to do likewise. AA  In three days, most people in 
> The
>   United
>   >    A A  States of America will have the message. This is one idea
>   that
>   >    really
>   >    A A  should be passed around.A A A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  I REPORT, YOU DECIDE.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  The BUFFETT Rule
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  We must support this - pass it on and letas see if these
>   idiots
>   >    A A  understand what people pressure is all about.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  Salary of retired US Presidents .. . . . .. . . . . .. .
>   $180,000
>   >    FOR
>   >    A A  LIFE
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  Salary of House/Senate members .. . . . .. . . . $174,000 
> FOR
>   LIFE
>   >    This
>   >    A A  is stupid
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  Salary of Speaker of the House .. . . . .. . . . . 
> $223,500
>   FOR
>   >    LIFE
>   >    A A  This is really stupid
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  Salary of Majority/Minority Leaders . . .. . . . . 
> $193,400
>   FOR
>   >    LIFE
>   >    A A  Ditto last line
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  Average Salary of a teacher . . .. . . . .. . . . . .. ..
>   $40,065
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  Average Salary of a deployed Soldier . . .. . . .. $38,000
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  I think we found where the cuts should be made! If you 
> agree
>   pass
>   >    it
>   >    A A  on, as I just did.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  Warren Buffet, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one 
> of
>   the
>   >    best
>   >    A A  quotes about the debt ceiling:
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  "I could end the deficit in five minutes," he told CNBC. 
> "You
>   just
>   >    pass
>   >    A A  a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more 
> than
>   3% of
>   >    GDP,
>   >    A A  all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for
>   re-election".
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  The 26th Amendment (granting the right to vote for 18
>   year-olds)
>   >    took
>   >    A A  only three months and eight days to be ratified! Why? 
> Simple!
>   The
>   >    A A  people demanded it. That was in 1971 - before computers,
>   e-mail,
>   >    cell
>   >    A A  phones, etc.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 
> one
>   (1)
>   >    year
>   >    A A  or less to become the law of the land - all because of 
> public
>   >    pressure.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this 
> email
>   to a
>   >    A A  minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn 
> ask
>   each
>   >    of
>   >    A A  those to do likewise.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  In three days, most people in The United States of America
>   will
>   >    have
>   >    A A  the message. This is one idea that really should be passed
>   around.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  Congressional Reform Act of 2015
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  1. No Tenure / No Pension.AA  A Congressman/woman collects 
> a
>   >    salary
>   >    A A  while in office and receives no pay when they're out of
>   office.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  2. Congress (past, present, & future) participates in 
> Social
>   >    Security.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the
>   Social
>   >    A A  Security system immediately. All future funds flow into 
> the
>   Social
>   >    A A  Security system, and Congress participates with the 
> American
>   >    people. It
>   >    A A  may not be used for any other purpose.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just 
> as
>   all
>   >    A A  Americans do.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
>   >    Congressional
>   >    A A  pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  5. Congress loses their current health care system and
>   >    participates in
>   >    A A  the same health care system as the American people.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on 
> the
>   >    American
>   >    A A  people.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women 
> are
>   void
>   >    A A  effective 12/1/15. The American people did not make this
>   contract
>   >    with
>   >    A A  Congressmen/women.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  Congress made all these contracts for themselves. Serving 
> in
>   >    Congress
>   >    A A  is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned
>   citizen
>   >    A A  legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go 
> home
>   and
>   >    go
>   >    A A  back to work.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people, then 
> it
>   will
>   >    only
>   >    A A  take three days for most people (in the U.S.) to receive 
> the
>   >    message.
>   >    A A  Don't you think it's time?
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  If you agree, pass it on. If not, delete.
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A  A
>   >    A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A  ClickA [1]hereA to report this
>   email as
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