[DeTomaso] New Detomasos to be built in China
Boyd Casey
boyd411 at gmail.com
Mon May 11 11:48:05 EDT 2015
Personally I would not consider purchasing a car made in China. I saw an
episode of "Top Gear" where the three Brits went to China and sampled a
number of Cars manufactured in China. Some of the older ones were a
complete joke. The newer ones were all Knock offs (in appearance) and while
the quality was light years ahead of the older cars but still seemed to
fall short of U.S. or European standards. I have had my share of Chinese
Pantera parts sold by one of our vendors that were total crap . One
example was a clutch master cylinder. It was represented as "made in Italy"
but it was a very poor copy that appeared to be made from a sand casting of
an original. The lettering was not crisp and clear (like an authentic one)
and it wouldn't work until I rebuilt it using some of the parts from the MC
I was replacing. So if that's any indication of the quality I don't think
you would even be able to get it up to US federal standards (DOT & EPA) so
if the new DeTomaso automobiles are made in China that may be the only
place you will see them.
Bob Levitt travels to China on business fairly often. If DeTomaso
production does ever come to fruition and they are manufactured in China
we will be able to get a first hand report on there quality from Bob.
This is only speculation and my personal opinion.
Boyd
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:
> I don't think they were actually working.
>
> Probably on unemployment until the new factory opened, but now it never
> will so all hope is lost for them.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carguy60 via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Sat, May 9, 2015 9:25 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Detomasos to be built in China
> So what was the current workforce producing? Just curious.
>
> Dennis Valdez
>
> >
> On May 9, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Charles McCall <[1]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> I've read a few articles that implied the same - apparently the only
> business
> plan that was presented that involved maintaining the workforce and
> production
> in Italy was that presented by the Swiss, and that didn't come through.
> This
> implies that the other plans included delocalization.
> >
> > IMO, delocalization
> to China would be a huge mistake. I can understand buying the DeTomaso
> name for
> a million dollars, euros, whatever. To a certain extent, it is somewhat
> philosophical whose capital is behind a well-known name. As Julian (I
> think)
> said, Jaguar is owned by Indians, and while they may call the shots the
> cars
> are built in the same factories as before and are infused with English
> culture.
> Therefore they maintain much of the value of the name.
> >
> > Designing and
> manufacturing a supercar in China will also infuse the car with Chinese
> culture.
> Not sure how many customers they can lure away from Corvette, Ferrari,
> Lamborghini, etc to buy an all-Chinese car instead. It will have to be
> very,
> very, very good to overcome that stigma and partially defeats the benefit
> gained
> from buying an Italian name.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso
> [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
> > Sent: sA!bado, 9
> de mayo de 2015 11:45
> > To: DeTomaso Mail List
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] New
> Detomasos to be built in China
> >
> > Or so the article states
> >
> >
> [3]
> http://europe.autonews.com/article/20150507/ANE/150509893?template=mobile02
> >
> >
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Personally I would not consider purchasing a car made in China. I saw
an episode of "Top Gear" where the three Brits went to China and
sampled a number of Cars manufactured in China. Some of the older ones
were a complete joke. The newer ones were all Knock offs (in
appearance) and while the quality was light years ahead of the older
cars A but still seemed to fall short of U.S. or European standards. I
have had my share of ChineseA Pantera parts A sold by one of our
vendors that were total crap A . One example was a clutch master
cylinder. It was represented as "made in Italy" but it was a very poor
copy that appeared to be made from a sand casting of an original. The
lettering was not crisp and clear (like an authentic one) and it
wouldn't work until I rebuilt it using some of the parts from the MC I
was replacing. So if that's any indication of the quality I don't think
you would even be able to get it up to US federal standards (DOT & EPA)
so if the new DeTomaso automobiles are made in China that may be the
only place you will see them.
A Bob Levitt travels to China on business fairly often. If DeTomaso
A production does ever come to fruition and they are manufactured in
China we will be able to get a first hand report on there quality from
Bob. A A
This is only speculation and my personal opinion.
Boyd
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso
<[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
A A I don't think they were actually working.
A A Probably on unemployment until the new factory opened, but now
it never
A A will so all hope is lost for them.
A A Jim
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: Carguy60 via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
A A To: Charles McCall <[3]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
A A Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[4]DeTomaso at poca.com>
A A Sent: Sat, May 9, 2015 9:25 am
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Detomasos to be built in China
So what was the current workforce producing?A Just curious.
Dennis Valdez
>
On May 9, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Charles McCall
<[1][5]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
I've read a few articles that implied the same - apparently the only
business
plan that was presented that involved maintaining the workforce and
production
in Italy was that presented by the Swiss, and that didn't come
through. This
implies that the other plans included delocalization.
>
> IMO, delocalization
to China would be a huge mistake. I can understand buying the
DeTomaso name for
a million dollars, euros, whatever. To a certain extent, it is
somewhat
philosophical whose capital is behind a well-known name. As Julian
(I think)
said, Jaguar is owned by Indians,A and while they may call the
shots the cars
are built in the same factories as before and are infused with
English culture.
Therefore they maintain much of the value of the name.
>
> Designing and
manufacturing a supercar in China will also infuse the car with
Chinese culture.
Not sure how many customers they can lure away from Corvette,
Ferrari,
Lamborghini, etc to buy an all-Chinese car instead. It will have to
be very,
very, very good to overcome that stigma and partially defeats the
benefit gained
from buying an Italian name.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso
[[2]mailto:[6]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
> Sent: sA!bado, 9
de mayo de 2015 11:45
> To: DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] New
Detomasos to be built in China
>
> Or so the article states
>
>
[3][7]http://europe.autonews.com/article/20150507/ANE/150509893?temp
late=mobile02
>
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