[DeTomaso] NPC- POCA Account Balance (was Reno Fernley Raceway)

Mark Charlton pantera01826 at rogers.com
Wed May 6 20:39:27 EDT 2015


Well spoken Julian, and I completely agree with your sentiments.

Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com



On May 6, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

>   Marshall/Boyd,
> 
> 
>   My apologies for the delayed response; I am truly humbled by your
>   support and the notion that you feel I am qualified to run for office
>   simply through my 'antics' on this email forum. It is easy to sit here
>   in the void that is the internet with a keyboard, fumbled fingers and
>   spellchecker to come up with written drivel that is critical, (perhaps
>   even sometimes a little inflammatory) or humorous. Actually scratch the
>   last one; no one ever gets my British humor!
> 
> 
>   Currently the demands of my job don't permit me a lot of spare time; if
>   they did then I'd have no excuse for why neither of my Pantera's is
>   currently running! There's also the fact that I'm currently working on
>   assignment outside the US, making adequate representation of the club
>   somewhat challenging. I fully agree that one way to effect influence is
>   from the inside and perhaps at some point in the future I will 'put my
>   money where my mouth is' and consider a more active role if the level
>   of member support to do so is there. For now I feel comfortable in
>   being able to hide north of the border and throw the occasional [DEL:
>   rock :DEL] snowball into the conversation!
> 
> 
>   I would like to say that we the members (and I am as guilty as the
>   next) are often quick to decry efforts of the elected board members,
>   who are after all just like the rest of us; car enthusiasts first and
>   foremost and secondly we did vote them into their position. As with
>   many leadership roles, the negative sells news and the positive gets
>   diluted, so I would like to take a moment to acknowledge that I have
>   seen positive and encouraging moves of late from the POCA leadership.
>   The move toward electronic voting, the willingness of some board
>   members to openly discuss the balance sheet etc. all speaks to a more
>   open board becoming better in touch with the membership.
> 
> 
>   In my experience transparency is one the single biggest attributes to
>   successful leadership, put simply, it is the easiest way to build
>   trust.
> 
> 
>   I often reflect on when I purchased my first Pantera, attracted to it
>   for the car that we all have an affinity to, at that time oblivious to
>   the existence of any sort of club. Be assured that much of the reason I
>   have owned a Pantera so long (and owned three at one time) is the
>   friendship and camaraderie it has brought; as they say, that is
>   priceless.
> 
> 
>   Thanks,
> 
>   Julian
> 
>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 12:56:59 -0700
>> From: marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC- POCA Account Balance (was Reno Fernley
>   Raceway)
>> To: julian_kift at hotmail.com; boyd411 at gmail.com
>> CC: detomaso at poca.com; audionut at hushmail.com
>> 
>> I agree with you Hugh. Julian would have the backing and support of
>   most if not all of the San Diego Panteras chapter.
>> 
>> Marshall Smith
>> President, San Diego Panteras
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Sat, 5/2/15, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC- POCA Account Balance (was Reno Fernley
>   Raceway)
>> To: "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: "Marshall Smith" <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>, "De Tomaso List"
>   <detomaso at poca.com>, "audionut at hushmail.com" <audionut at hushmail.com>
>> Date: Saturday, May 2, 2015, 8:36 AM
>> 
>> I would
>> respectfully suggest that anyone unhappy with the current
>> state of affairs take steps to change things ,which means
>> running for office or nominating a candidate who you feel
>> shares your views and will implement them if elected and
>> organizing a campaign. It will probably take more than one
>> seat on the board to effect any meaningful change. It does
>> seem like the activities of the poca board are treated more
>> like the CIA then a mere car club. Julian if you were to
>> chose to undertake such an effort I would support you and
>> your efforts.
>> Hugh Boyd
>> Casey
>> On Sat,
>> May 2, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>   Is
>> that true, doesn't POCA publish an annual income
>> statement where the
>> 
>>   health of the bank account would be disclosed?
>> 
>>   Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 23:15:24 -0700
>> 
>>   From: marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
>> 
>>   To: detomaso at poca.com;
>> audionut at hushmail.com
>> 
>>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC- Reno Fernley Raceway
>> 
>> Wow....you of all people Jack.
>> 
>> I bet those club boards don't keep the balance of their
>> reserves secret from the
>> 
>> ir members nor have to admonish one of their board members
>> for disclosing that b
>> 
>> alance to a member.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marshall Smith
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <div>-------- Original message
>> --------</div><div>From: Jack DeRyke via
>> DeTomaso
>> 
>> <detomaso at poca.com>
>> </div><div>Date:04/30/2015  5:40 PM
>> (GMT-08:00) </div><div
>> 
>>> To: audionut at hushmail.com,
>> detomaso at poca.com
>> </div><div>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
>> 
>> NPC- Reno Fernley Raceway </div><div>
>> 
>> </div>Oh,, lets see... Porsche, Ferrari, several more
>> with 10X the funds we have
>> 
>> . Higher dues, too.
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>> 
>> Sent using Hushmail
>> 
>>   On April 30, 2015 at 2:53 PM, "marshall
>> smith"
>> 
>>   <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>     Reduced dues or lower Fun Rally fees comes to
>> mind.
>> 
>>     What car club needs $125K cash in their account?
>> 
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