[DeTomaso] Oilite Bronze Bushings - Marlin Jack?

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Sun Mar 29 20:19:54 EDT 2015


Interesting idea.  I¹ve never considered using a ball bearing for the
pilot.

On 3/29/15, 2:14 PM, "R.J" <willibillie at live.de> wrote:

>   I really wonder why no one suggests a ball bearing. I run ball bearings
>   in all Panteras for years with out any issue.
>   R.J.
>
>   Am 29.03.2015 um 20:07 schrieb Larry Weston:
>
>   Curious, are the pilot needle bearings like u-Joint needles, ie: no
>   spacing cage, fully populated around the circumference with needles, or
>   more like a ball bearing with a metal or plastic cage spacing a lesser
>   amount of needles?
>   Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 12:56:48 -0500
>   From: [1]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
>   To: [2]mbefthomas at comcast.net; [3]julian_kift at hotmail.com;
>[4]detomaso at poca.c
>om
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oilite Bronze Bushings - Marlin Jack?
>My experience was similar to Julian's.  I was a long time advocate of
>using pilot bushings verses bearings .  It was driven by a needle
>bearing pilot failure in another vehicle.  Why take the chance?
>
>However, I began hear a scrub noise emanating from the ZF bellhousing
>upon hard starts from a standstill.  Switching to a needle bearing
>remedied the problem.
>
>I believe that line boring the block moves the crankshaft center-line
>slightly off axis from the ZF input shaft.  The pilot bearing is more
>forgiving on the input shaft nose to the misalignment.
>
>I would suggest one consider a bearing if their block has been line
>bored and they do not have the gadgets to properly install offset dowels
>to recenter the ZF bellhousing to the block.
>
>JT
>
>
>
>On 3/29/2015 11:55 AM, Mike Thomas wrote:
>
>    I've got a needle bearing in right now, but will be pulling the ZF
>next
>    winter if the clutch chatter doesn't settle down.  Last poll had more
>    leaning to the Oilite, so I thought I'd stir the waters once again.
>
>
>    Mike Thomas
>
>    Pres., Panteras Northwest
>
>    Yellow '74 #6328
>
>
>
>
>    From: Julian Kift [[5]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
>    Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:56 AM
>    To: Mike Thomas; De Tomaso List
>    Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Oilite Bronze Bushings - Marlin Jack?
>
>
>    I believe Marlin and some of the vendors sell them.
>
>    I was always an advocate of the oilite until I got my GT5; Coz had the
>    ZF rebuilt and it was fresh back from Dennis Quella, in fact Coz and
>    I installed it when I picked up the car from him and I then proceeded
>    to drive from Phoenix to Reno non stop (other than gas). The car
>wasn't
>    shifting quite correctly and we got Dennis to drive the car at the
>    Pahrump track during the Fun Rally, he agreed it was still not
>shifting
>    correctly. I then pulled the ZF and sent it back, Dennis went back
>    though it and could find nothing wrong, however he sent it back with a
>    needle bearing and said try that for the pilot. Low and behold that
>    fixed all my problems, so now I'm a convert to the needle bearing and
>    never had an issue since.
>
>    It would be interesting to see if Lloyd Butfoy's opinion aligns with
>    Dennis on the needle bearing vs. oilite
>
>    Julian
>    YMMV
>
>    > From: [[6]1]mbefthomas at comcast.net
>    > To: [[7]2]detomaso at poca.com
>    > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 08:19:31 -0700
>    > Subject: [DeTomaso] Oilite Bronze Bushings - Marlin Jack?
>    >
>    > Is it Marlin Jack that sells the Oilite bronze idler bushings?
>    >
>    > Mike Thomas
>    > Pres., Panteras Northwest
>    > Yellow '74 #6328
>    >
>    >
>    >
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