[DeTomaso] [TPR] Track event attendees - 2015 POCA Lone Star Fun Rally Update #18
Kirby Schrader
kirby.schrader at gmail.com
Tue Mar 17 14:12:42 EDT 2015
Bud,
I have asked the question. That's the way TDS has their rules set up.
As for the aftermarket systems, those rules come from SVRA, CVAR, SCCA, etc.
And they hold firm on those rules.
Check out the Simpson website and the like. Very clear what the regulations
are.
Regards,
Kirby
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:05 PM, B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I have a dumb question:
> Why is an OEM belt set up OK even though it is 40 plus years old,but an
> after market 4 point only good for 5 years? The factories must have some
> pretty special material available...OR am I completely missing something??
>
> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Kirby Schrader via TPR <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> *To:* scpoca at yahoogroups.com; Panteras <detomaso at poca.com>; TPR Forum <
> tpr at teampanteraracing.com>; Pantera Performance Center <
> becky at panteraperformance.com>; Mike Trusty <miketrusty at msn.com>; Stephane
> Bergeron <bergeron.s at wanadoo.fr>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2015 12:51 PM
> *Subject:* [TPR] Track event attendees - 2015 POCA Lone Star Fun Rally
> Update #18
>
>
> *May 16-17, 2015*
> *Update #18*
>
> Registration opened for the Fun Rally Track Event with the Drivers Edge
> yesterday at 9AM CST.
> The current status (as of 12:36PM CST) is as follows:
>
> *Registration Status First Name Action Required*Confirmed
> for May 16-17 at TWS David Adin Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS John Conder Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Alex Engles Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Richard Hoppe Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Charles Huber Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Jerry Knotts Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Ron McCall Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Bill Moore Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Ed Nagel Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Robert Pink Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Nick Sakulenzki Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Kirby Schrader Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Michael Simmons Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Mike Trusty Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Thomas Upton Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Keith Verges Nothing
> Confirmed for May 16-17 at TWS Anthony La Sorsa Nothing
> Those of you on the list got confirmation emails.
> If you pre-registered and were on the previous list and are *not *on the
> above list, please go to The Driver's Edge website and click on the
> Registration button for TWS May 16-17 as per my individual email
> instructions that I sent out over the weekend.
> He is holding your spots and waiting for you to register. We have had a
> couple more cancellations.
> 114 registrations within the first 4 minutes. Even he was surprised... It
> is a popular event and with TWS disappearing, lots of people want to drive
> it one last time. CVAR ran their last event there in February and there
> were 250 cars!
> For all you folks who have a Pantera but are proposing your ‘backup car',
> *please* do your best to bring the Pantera. After all, it _is_ a
> Pantera event.
> You've got almost 3 months to get it going! That’s good motivation!
> The question was asked 'Are mufflers required?'
> Tom Upton races there all the time and he responded:
> "Track has same as SCCA. 104 db @ 70 ft, but I have not seen it being
> enforced even though I went to great pains to meet it."
>
> *New information - This is important. PLEASE READ.*
> One of the guys here asked about seat belts. The Driver’s Edge accepts
> stock seats with the standard three point belts. However, if you have
> upgraded to a racing seat or a harness you *must* have an anti-submarine
> belt.
> Some confusion results when people talk about this. For example...
> My race car has a Simpson snap latch system consisting of:
> Lap belts - 2 mount points
> Anti-submarine belt - 1 mount point
> Should belts in a V to a single mount point - 1 mount point
> Total 4
> This is acceptable to The Driver’s Edge.
>
> Personally, I will be upgrading my setup to a 5 point by separating the
> shoulder belts so it works with my Hans device better.
> CVAR, SCCA and others are all saying you need 5 or 6 point mounts. The 6th
> is a ‘Y’ anti-submarining belt.
>
> If that’s not clear, let me know. This may generate some discussion,
> but that’s OK. 4 point to some people mean two lap belts and two shoulder
> belts with no anti-submarine belt. This will not be accepted.
>
> Also, your belts will need to be within the acceptable date range. If they
> are older than 5 years, you really need to change them!
>
>
> Thanks,
> Kirby
>
>
> Links: Texas World Speedway - http://www.texasworldspeedway.com
>
>
>
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Bud,
I have asked the question. That's the way TDS has their rules set up.
As for the aftermarket systems, those rules come from SVRA, CVAR, SCCA,
etc.
And they hold firm on those rules.
Check out the Simpson website and the like. Very clear what the
regulations are.
Regards,
Kirby
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:05 PM, B Hower <[1]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
Hi guys,
I have a dumb question:
Why is an OEM belt set up OK even though it is 40 plus years old,but an
after market 4 point only good for 5 years? The factories must have
some pretty special material available...OR am I completely missing
something??
A
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
__________________________________________________________________
From: Kirby Schrader via TPR <[2]tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
To: [3]scpoca at yahoogroups.com; Panteras <[4]detomaso at poca.com>; TPR
Forum <[5]tpr at teampanteraracing.com>; Pantera Performance Center
<[6]becky at panteraperformance.com>; Mike Trusty <[7]miketrusty at msn.com>;
Stephane Bergeron <[8]bergeron.s at wanadoo.fr>
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 12:51 PM
Subject: [TPR] Track event attendees - 2015 POCA Lone Star Fun Rally
Update #18
May 16-17, 2015
Update #18
Registration opened for the Fun Rally Track Event with the Drivers Edge
yesterday at 9AM CST.
The current status (as of 12:36PM CST) is as follows:
Registration Status A A A A A A FirstA A Name A A A Action
Required
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA DavidA A Adin A A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA JohnA A A Conder A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA AlexA A A Engles A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA Richard Hoppe A A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA Charles Huber A A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA JerryA A Knotts A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA RonA A A A McCall A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA BillA A A Moore A A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA EdA A A A A Nagel A A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA RobertA Pink A A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA NickA A A Sakulenzki Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA KirbyA A Schrader A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA Michael Simmons A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA MikeA A A Trusty A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA ThomasA Upton A A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA KeithA A Verges A A Nothing
Confirmed forA May 16-17A at TWSA Anthony La Sorsa A Nothing
Those of you on the list got confirmation emails.
If you pre-registered and were on the previous list and are not on the
above list, please go to The Driver's Edge website and click on the
Registration button for TWS May 16-17 as per my individual email
instructions that I sent out over the weekend.
He is holding your spots and waiting for you to register.A We have had
a couple more cancellations.A
114 registrations within the first 4 minutes. Even he was surprised...
It is a popular event and with TWS disappearing, lots of people want to
drive it one last time. CVAR ran their last event there in February and
there were 250 cars!
For all you folks who have a Pantera but are proposing yourA abackup
car', please do your best toA bring the Pantera. After all, it _is_ a
PanteraA event.A
You'veA got almost 3 months to get it going! Thatas goodA motivation!
The question was asked 'Are mufflers required?'
Tom Upton races there all the time and he responded:
"Track has same as SCCA. 104 db @ 70 ft, but I have not seen it being
enforced even though I went to great pains to meet it."
A
New information - This is important. PLEASE READ.
One of the guys here asked about seat belts. The Driveras Edge accepts
stock seats with the standard three point belts.A However, if you have
upgraded to a racing seat or a harness you must have an anti-submarine
belt.
SomeA confusion results when peopleA talk about this. For example...
My race car has a Simpson snap latch system consisting of:
Lap belts - 2 mount points
Anti-submarine belt - 1 mount point
Should belts in a V to a single mount point - 1 mount point
Total 4
This is acceptable to The Driveras Edge.
Personally, I will be upgrading my setup to a 5 point by separating the
shoulder belts so it works with my Hans device better.
CVAR, SCCA and others are all saying you need 5 or 6A point mounts. The
6th is aA aYa anti-submarining belt.
If thatas not clear, let me know. This may generate some discussion,
butA thatas OK. 4 point to some people mean two lapA belts and two
shoulder belts with no anti-submarineA belt. This will not be accepted.
Also, your belts will need to be within the acceptable date range. If
they are older than 5 years, you really need to change them!
Thanks,
Kirby
Links: Texas World Speedway -A [9]http://www.texasworldspeedway.com
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