[DeTomaso] Help Needed! Installing ZF Today and Stuck

[Mike Thomas]

Mike, on getting the ZF in, I had the same issue and just rotated both halfshaft plates the same direction a tiny bit with the ZF in gear to rotate the teeth on the input shaft.  It eventually slipped right in.

'Couple things to consider.  How old are the idler bushing and clutch throwout bearing?  I would make a lot of sense to replace both of those while you have the ZF out.  It wouldn't be a bad idea to pull the clutch and inspect the clutch disc, pressure plate and fly wheel as well.  Don't want to have it back together for 100 miles and have to pull the box when one of those decides they're done.

Just my .02.  Good luck

Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow ’74 #6328


-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Mike Reilly
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 1:32 PM
To: Michael Shortt; Andy May
Cc: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help Needed! Installing ZF Today and Stuck

Thanks for the quick reply.  I didn't need to change the clutch.  It was not removed.....only the ZF so not sure how a clutch alignment tool would help if the clutch was not touched in the process.  I think I just need to keep trying to align the teeth....rotationally vs the alignment. Make sense?  Thanks, Mike ________________________________
From: Michael Shortt<mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com>
Sent: ‎3/‎7/‎2015 1:18 PM
To: Andy May<mailto:andymay24 at gmail.com>
Cc: Mike Reilly<mailto:reillyms at live.com>; detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help Needed! Installing ZF Today and Stuck

You really do need a clutch alignment tool like this one.

http://www.finditparts.com/products/4486741/kd-tools-kds2420?srcid=CHL01SCL010-Npla-Dmdt-Gusa-Svbr-Mmuu-K4486741&gclid=CKe1lLWVl8QCFVAvgQodEC0Apg

Michael Shortt
On Mar 7, 2015 4:04 PM, "Andy May" <andymay24 at gmail.com> wrote:

>    When I did mine I had similar problems and just had to keep jigging it
>    around until it went in. I assume you have used a clutch alugnment tool
>    to set the clutch plate first? If not, then you need to or you'll be
>    there for ever......
>
>    Andy
>    On Mar 7, 2015 8:55 PM, "Mike Reilly" <[1]reillyms at live.com> wrote:
>    >
>    > A  A Hi all.A  I just had my ZF safety wired and now Iam installing
>    it.A  All
>    > A  A is well except the shaft (with teeth see pic) from the ZF will
>    not
>    > A  A align to go into the opening (to accept the teeth) in the engine
>    > A  A (center of clutch and flywheel).A  I did some trial and error to
>    get
>    > A  A them to align but no luck.A  A I assume the ZF should slip in
>    once these
>    > A  A teeth are aligned.A  I have the engine mount bolts loose enough
>    so the
>    > A  A engine is tilted and it aligns nicely to the case coming in.A  I
>    just
>    > A  A get stopped by the teeth from the ZF entering into the motor.A
>    This is
>    > A  A my first time doing thisa|.is there some trick to avoid constant
>    trail
>    > A  A and error by slightly rotating the ZF shaft and trying over and
>    over?
>    > A  A Thanks, Mike
>    >
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