[DeTomaso] Asa Jay, Thanks for taking care of the list

Himes, Terry (397C) terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Sat Mar 7 10:42:29 EST 2015


Me too!  Thanks Asa Jay!

In 1973-4 (ish) I saw my first Pantera.  It was yellow.  After years of searching I bought my
Pantera (2000) and it was white.  It is now the best color ever…. Yellow!!!   Ha!  ;-)
(I do like Orange also)


"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
  exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
  to contact us!"

Terry W. Himes [cid:6271D330-64EF-440B-BE70-C4446B1E0010]
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
InSight Sequence Team Lead
Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
Fax:     (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
🇺🇸

From: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com<mailto:bill at incendium.com>>
Date: Saturday, March 7, 2015 6:46 AM
To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com<mailto:asajay at asajay.com>>, "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Asa Jay, Thanks for taking care of the list

Thanks Asa Jay, well said. Thank you for all you do for all or us. Now then, you, you,     Orange is the best!



Cheers,

Bill Moore
Incendium Supply
Calgary

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com<mailto:asajay at asajay.com>> </div><div>Date:2015-03-07  7:18 AM  (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com> </div><div>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Asa Jay, Thanks for taking care of the list </div><div>
</div>All,
It was nearly 20 years ago when Shane Ingate had the idea of using the
new medium called The Internet to bring together Pantera owners.  I,
along with about 20 or so others became founding subscribers of The
DeTomaso email forum.  In those early days, the administrator (I forget
if it was Shane or Andy), would send out a list with who posted and how
many posting they had.

The list was great in the early days.  It helped a lot of people
understand some of the quirks found in the Pantera and what to do about
them.  It helped people understand the difference between a pre-L and
and L, and a GT5-S for example.  Repeated questions were met with
repeated answers and not snide comments like "go look in the archives."
It was open, pleasant and I thought really helped further the image and
exposure of both the DeTomaso company and the Pantera.

This list was not meant for political or religious discourse.  Generally
there are many topics people have learned to stay away from among
acquaintances and this email list should be treated no differently.

Because the list has been unmoderated for so long, many little things
have been allowed through.  Sometimes some nasty things get said and in
most cases, the people realize what the did and apologies usually
follow.  We have some great people here, we have some honorable people
here and we have some that we might consider to be a bit less, but as so
many have pointed out in the past, can't we look past some of our
personal differences to the things that matter in the context of owning
a Pantera.

It's fun to argue about the best color for a Pantera (white), or which
bumpers are better (L), but when conversations devolve into political
infighting and profane (or near profane) bickering and sniping, it puts
a foul taste in everyone's mouth.

When Andy Poling approached the POCA Board with the idea of hosting this
email list on the POCA server because he was no longer interested, there
was only one agreement; the list still had to be open and available to
anyone regardless of being a POCA member.  This he felt (and most did
to) this would keep the discussion about Pantera's alive and well
regardless if someone wanted to be a POCA member or not.

The POCA Board agreed to that and I've been the person who did all the
work to transfer it from Andy's old server to the POCA server.  I'm the
one who rebuilt the email list after the POCA Server was hacked two
years ago (and if anyone noticed, most of the POCA web site last
August).  Since then, it's been a pretty simple job.

Unfortunately, this last incident has caused me to put myself into a
position of moderating some things.  I never thought we'd need to do
that, but it's come to that.  I'd be more than happy to let someone else
take over the administration of the list; they just need to know how
the  GNU Mailman software works, how it works on a Linux system and how
a Linux system works.  I know there are qualified folks reading this.

But I do want to remind you, this is not like the PI Forum or any other
on-line forum.  This is email and it is stored and re-sent differently.
Once you post it, it's public; it's already been delivered to all the
subscribers mail boxes.  It's stored in semi-cryptic files on the
server; it's not "threaded."  It takes a large amount of effort to try
and remove individual posts, much less "threads."  So please be aware of
what you write, it -will- become published history.

And one last tid bit.  Please do NOT re-post private emails.  This pulls
an argument into the public domain which is in all honestly not really
fair to the person who sent the private email, and it can like this
time, stir things even worse for both parties.  Please don't act on the
urge to justify yourself in public when you really need to respond in
private.

Let's please keep things on-topic.

Thank you for reading this far.
Asa  Jay

That has worked pretty well for a while.

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
&  Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
http://www.racingagainstautism.com
http://www.teampanteraracing.com
http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism


On 3/6/2015 9:28 PM, Nolan wrote:
     Hello Asa Jay,

     Thank you for being list mom amongst other things. I appreciate all
     your help.


     I have sent money into other lists over the years like the Datsun
     Roaster list I have been on forever.

     I have never seen any place to help out for the Pantera list. Does
     [1]asajay at asajay.com<mailto:asajay at asajay.com> work for Paypal? I'm sure there are others that
     would also like the chance to say thank you.


     All my best,

     Nolan

References

     1. mailto:asajay at asajay.com



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   Me too!  Thanks Asa Jay!
   In 1973-4 (ish) I saw my first Pantera.  It was yellow.  After years of
   searching I bought my
   Pantera (2000) and it was white.  It is now the best color ever....
   Yellow!!!   Ha!  ;-)

   (I do like Orange also)

   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life

     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

     to contact us!"

   Terry W. Himes  [cid:6271D330-64EF-440B-BE70-C4446B1E0010]

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   InSight Sequence Team Lead

   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: Bill Moore <[2]bill at incendium.com>
   Date: Saturday, March 7, 2015 6:46 AM
   To: Asa Jay Laughton <[3]asajay at asajay.com>, "[4]detomaso at poca.com"
   <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Asa Jay, Thanks for taking care of the list

   Thanks Asa Jay, well said. Thank you for all you do for all or us. Now
   then, you, you,     Orange is the best!
   Cheers,
   Bill Moore
   Incendium Supply
   Calgary
   <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Asa Jay
   Laughton <[6]asajay at asajay.com> </div><div>Date:2015-03-07  7:18
   AM  (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: [7]detomaso at poca.com </div><div>Subject:
   Re: [DeTomaso] Asa Jay, Thanks for taking care of the list </div><div>
   </div>All,
   It was nearly 20 years ago when Shane Ingate had the idea of using the
   new medium called The Internet to bring together Pantera owners.  I,
   along with about 20 or so others became founding subscribers of The
   DeTomaso email forum.  In those early days, the administrator (I forget
   if it was Shane or Andy), would send out a list with who posted and how
   many posting they had.
   The list was great in the early days.  It helped a lot of people
   understand some of the quirks found in the Pantera and what to do about
   them.  It helped people understand the difference between a pre-L and
   and L, and a GT5-S for example.  Repeated questions were met with
   repeated answers and not snide comments like "go look in the
   archives."
   It was open, pleasant and I thought really helped further the image and
   exposure of both the DeTomaso company and the Pantera.
   This list was not meant for political or religious
   discourse.  Generally
   there are many topics people have learned to stay away from among
   acquaintances and this email list should be treated no differently.
   Because the list has been unmoderated for so long, many little things
   have been allowed through.  Sometimes some nasty things get said and in
   most cases, the people realize what the did and apologies usually
   follow.  We have some great people here, we have some honorable people
   here and we have some that we might consider to be a bit less, but as
   so
   many have pointed out in the past, can't we look past some of our
   personal differences to the things that matter in the context of owning
   a Pantera.
   It's fun to argue about the best color for a Pantera (white), or which
   bumpers are better (L), but when conversations devolve into political
   infighting and profane (or near profane) bickering and sniping, it puts
   a foul taste in everyone's mouth.
   When Andy Poling approached the POCA Board with the idea of hosting
   this
   email list on the POCA server because he was no longer interested,
   there
   was only one agreement; the list still had to be open and available to
   anyone regardless of being a POCA member.  This he felt (and most did
   to) this would keep the discussion about Pantera's alive and well
   regardless if someone wanted to be a POCA member or not.
   The POCA Board agreed to that and I've been the person who did all the
   work to transfer it from Andy's old server to the POCA server.  I'm the
   one who rebuilt the email list after the POCA Server was hacked two
   years ago (and if anyone noticed, most of the POCA web site last
   August).  Since then, it's been a pretty simple job.
   Unfortunately, this last incident has caused me to put myself into a
   position of moderating some things.  I never thought we'd need to do
   that, but it's come to that.  I'd be more than happy to let someone
   else
   take over the administration of the list; they just need to know how
   the  GNU Mailman software works, how it works on a Linux system and how
   a Linux system works.  I know there are qualified folks reading this.
   But I do want to remind you, this is not like the PI Forum or any other
   on-line forum.  This is email and it is stored and re-sent
   differently.
   Once you post it, it's public; it's already been delivered to all the
   subscribers mail boxes.  It's stored in semi-cryptic files on the
   server; it's not "threaded."  It takes a large amount of effort to try
   and remove individual posts, much less "threads."  So please be aware
   of
   what you write, it -will- become published history.
   And one last tid bit.  Please do NOT re-post private emails.  This
   pulls
   an argument into the public domain which is in all honestly not really
   fair to the person who sent the private email, and it can like this
   time, stir things even worse for both parties.  Please don't act on the
   urge to justify yourself in public when you really need to respond in
   private.
   Let's please keep things on-topic.
   Thank you for reading this far.
   Asa  Jay
   That has worked pretty well for a while.
   Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   &  Shelley Marie
   Spokane, WA
   ******************************
   [8]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
   [9]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   [10]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
   On 3/6/2015 9:28 PM, Nolan wrote:

        Hello Asa Jay,

        Thank you for being list mom amongst other things. I appreciate
   all

        your help.

        I have sent money into other lists over the years like the Datsun

        Roaster list I have been on forever.

        I have never seen any place to help out for the Pantera list. Does

        [1][11]asajay at asajay.com work for Paypal? I'm sure there are
   others that

        would also like the chance to say thank you.

        All my best,

        Nolan

   References

        1. [12]mailto:asajay at asajay.com

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References

   1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   2. mailto:bill at incendium.com
   3. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   6. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
   7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   8. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
   9. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
  10. http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
  11. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
  12. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
  13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  14. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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