[DeTomaso] POCA Bylaw amendment
Bill Moore
bill at incendium.com
Thu Mar 5 14:10:06 EST 2015
OK Will, yes, the subject line should now read POCA bylaw amendment
Cheers:
Please use my bill at incendium.com email address in all messages.
Bill Moore
Incendium Supply Ltd.
Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W.
Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9
403.202.0055
-----Original Message-----
From: Will Kooiman [mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com]
Sent: March-05-15 11:55 AM
To: Bill Moore; 'Jeff Detrich'; detomaso at poca.com
Cc: 'Jeff 1Detrich'
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
Importance: High
ButŠŠŠŠ
The list is not POCA.
It is hosted by POCA, but it isn't owned or managed by POCA.
So, none of the non-profit organization rules apply.
But that's academic. Angry words were exchanged. We all know they
shouldn't have been said. We all know politics shouldn't have been
discussed. It's done. Let's move on.
If it gets out of hand again, Asa Jay has the right to "moderate" as he sees
fit.
--
Will
On 3/5/15 1:24 PM, "Bill Moore" <bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>Thanks Jeff, your response is a good explanation !
>I mailed my ballot "for" on March 2nd.
>Have YOU (collective) voted yet.....................
>
>
>Cheers:
>
>Please use my bill at incendium.com email address in all messages.
>
>Bill Moore
>Incendium Supply Ltd.
>Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W.
>Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9
>403.202.0055
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
>Detrich
>Sent: March-05-15 11:02 AM
>To: detomaso at poca.com
>Cc: Jeff 1Detrich
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
>
>Okay, here is the what the statutes for non-profits like ours say in
>California. Internet voting, called "electronic transmission" of
>ballots, is only allowed if it is specifically allowed in the club's by
>laws. Ours do not. Furthermore, email voting is never allowabled
>because it is not possible to truly verify an email address. Think
>hackers! This one is true in almost every state, not just California.
>
>So, that is why we are having an election to modify the by-laws of the
>club. The new amendment sets the stage so we can implement electronic
>internet voting and other 21st century improvements for the Club. It
>clarifies this and other procedures surrounding amending the By-Laws
>and provides a new procedure for members to propose changes to the
>By-Laws directly. And it still allows for paper ballots for people that
>don't use the internet. All good and necessary stuff. And it brings us
>more in line with what most other large car clubs do. Although there
>might have been some earlier confusion, a simple majority of vostes
>cast will pass the amendment.
>
>The amendment change and ballot will be in your March Newsletter.
>Please vote.
>
>If you questions or concerns, please give me a shout.
>
>Jeff Detrich
>Secretary, POCA
>
>
>
>On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Marshall Smith
><marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
>> wrote:
>
>> I am 100 percent in favor of electronic voting. It's time to come
>>in to
>> the 21st century.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>>
>> From: Bill Moore
>>
>> Date:03/05/2015 5:32 AM (GMT-08:00)
>>
>> To: Tomas Gunnarsson , julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
>>
>> So can we all get alone and email vote . Please Marshall .
>> Cheers,
>> Bill Moore
>> Incendium Supply
>> Calgary
>> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Tomas
>> Gunnarsson <guson at home.se> </div><div>Date:2015-03-05 12:38 AM
>> (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: julian_kift at hotmail.com </div><div>Cc:
>> detomaso at poca.com </div><div>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON
>>THE
>> LIST </div><div>
>> </div>Only if we can vote by e-mail. ;-)
>> Tomas
>> <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
>> From: Julian Kift [julian_kift at hotmail.com]
>> Sent: 5/3/2015 5:58:13 AM
>> To: asajay at asajay.com;detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
>> Shouldn't we put it to a vote...... :>)
>> > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 04:02:04 +0000
>> > From: asajay at asajay.com
>> > To: detomaso at poca.com
>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
>> >
>> > So here's the thing. This list is essentially unmoderated.
>> >
>> > However, when things like this happen that are deconstructive to
>>the
>> > well mannered disposition of the general population I'm not against
>> > performing some level of moderation.
>> >
>> > The method I choose will be to remove the subscriber.
>> >
>> > This does not give me grief as a historical search for content
>>posted
>> > by the primary offender(s) will show little, if any, actual Pantera
>> > content.
>> >
>> > If this flares again, I will not hesitate to delete users though
>>some
>> > may think its not my position to do so. The fact is I am
>>essentially
>> > the -only- person maintaining this list and I do not beleive it
>> should
>> > be subject to this kind of vitriol for all to experience.
>> >
>> > Please refrain from this type of activity. Please consider this
>>to be
>> > a friendly warning.
>> >
>> > Asa Jay
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Quoting Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > > As long as you people allow ass monkeys like Doug Sedon and Larry
>> Weston to
>> > > spew their vitriol and hate and attack others online and off,
>>your
>> list is
>> > > doomed.
>> > > 99.9% are here to talk about Cars and all things Pantera.
>> > >
>> > > I'm taking a break, none of this matters enough to get upset
>>over,
>> good
>> > > thing I'm couldn't attend the rally, esp for some.
>> > >
>> > > Michael Shortt
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Asa Jay Laughton - sent from somewhere other than home
>> > ******************************************************
>> > http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>> > http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> Only if we can vote by e-mail. ;-)
>> Tomas
>> <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
>> From: Julian Kift [julian_kift at hotmail.com]
>> Sent: 5/3/2015 5:58:13 AM
>> To: asajay at asajay.com;detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
>> Shouldn't we put it to a vote...... :>)
>> > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 04:02:04 +0000
>> > From: asajay at asajay.com
>> > To: detomaso at poca.com
>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
>> >
>> > So here's the thing. This list is essentially unmoderated.
>> >
>> > However, when things like this happen that are deconstructive to
>> the
>> > well mannered disposition of the general population I'm not
>> against
>> > performing some level of moderation.
>> >
>> > The method I choose will be to remove the subscriber.
>> >
>> > This does not give me grief as a historical search for content
>> posted
>> > by the primary offender(s) will show little, if any, actual
>> Pantera
>> > content.
>> >
>> > If this flares again, I will not hesitate to delete users though
>> some
>> > may think its not my position to do so. The fact is I am
>> essentially
>> > the -only- person maintaining this list and I do not beleive it
>> should
>> > be subject to this kind of vitriol for all to experience.
>> >
>> > Please refrain from this type of activity. Please consider
>>this to
>> be
>> > a friendly warning.
>> >
>> > Asa Jay
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Quoting Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > > As long as you people allow ass monkeys like Doug Sedon and
>> Larry
>> Weston to
>> > > spew their vitriol and hate and attack others online and off,
>> your
>> list is
>> > > doomed.
>> > > 99.9% are here to talk about Cars and all things Pantera.
>> > >
>> > > I'm taking a break, none of this matters enough to get upset
>> over,
>> good
>> > > thing I'm couldn't attend the rally, esp for some.
>> > >
>> > > Michael Shortt
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Asa Jay Laughton - sent from somewhere other than home
>> > ******************************************************
>> > http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>> > http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
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