[DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Thu Mar 5 13:02:13 EST 2015
Okay, here is the what the statutes for non-profits like ours say in
California. Internet voting, called "electronic transmission" of ballots,
is only allowed if it is specifically allowed in the club's by laws. Ours
do not. Furthermore, email voting is never allowabled because it is not
possible to truly verify an email address. Think hackers! This one is true
in almost every state, not just California.
So, that is why we are having an election to modify the by-laws of the
club. The new amendment sets the stage so we can implement electronic
internet voting and other 21st century improvements for the Club. It
clarifies this and other procedures surrounding amending the By-Laws and
provides a new procedure for members to propose changes to the By-Laws
directly. And it still allows for paper ballots for people that don't use
the internet. All good and necessary stuff. And it brings us more in line
with what most other large car clubs do. Although there might have been
some earlier confusion, a simple majority of vostes cast will pass the
amendment.
The amendment change and ballot will be in your March Newsletter. Please
vote.
If you questions or concerns, please give me a shout.
Jeff Detrich
Secretary, POCA
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Marshall Smith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
> wrote:
> I am 100 percent in favor of electronic voting. It's time to come in to
> the 21st century.
>
> Marshall
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Bill Moore
>
> Date:03/05/2015 5:32 AM (GMT-08:00)
>
> To: Tomas Gunnarsson , julian_kift at hotmail.com
>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
>
> So can we all get alone and email vote . Please Marshall .
> Cheers,
> Bill Moore
> Incendium Supply
> Calgary
> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Tomas
> Gunnarsson <guson at home.se> </div><div>Date:2015-03-05 12:38 AM
> (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: julian_kift at hotmail.com </div><div>Cc:
> detomaso at poca.com </div><div>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE
> LIST </div><div>
> </div>Only if we can vote by e-mail. ;-)
> Tomas
> <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
> From: Julian Kift [julian_kift at hotmail.com]
> Sent: 5/3/2015 5:58:13 AM
> To: asajay at asajay.com;detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
> Shouldn't we put it to a vote...... :>)
> > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 04:02:04 +0000
> > From: asajay at asajay.com
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
> >
> > So here's the thing. This list is essentially unmoderated.
> >
> > However, when things like this happen that are deconstructive to the
> > well mannered disposition of the general population I'm not against
> > performing some level of moderation.
> >
> > The method I choose will be to remove the subscriber.
> >
> > This does not give me grief as a historical search for content posted
> > by the primary offender(s) will show little, if any, actual Pantera
> > content.
> >
> > If this flares again, I will not hesitate to delete users though some
> > may think its not my position to do so. The fact is I am essentially
> > the -only- person maintaining this list and I do not beleive it
> should
> > be subject to this kind of vitriol for all to experience.
> >
> > Please refrain from this type of activity. Please consider this to be
> > a friendly warning.
> >
> > Asa Jay
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > As long as you people allow ass monkeys like Doug Sedon and Larry
> Weston to
> > > spew their vitriol and hate and attack others online and off, your
> list is
> > > doomed.
> > > 99.9% are here to talk about Cars and all things Pantera.
> > >
> > > I'm taking a break, none of this matters enough to get upset over,
> good
> > > thing I'm couldn't attend the rally, esp for some.
> > >
> > > Michael Shortt
> >
> >
> > --
> > Asa Jay Laughton - sent from somewhere other than home
> > ******************************************************
> > http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> > http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> >
> > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
> use the links above.
> Only if we can vote by e-mail. ;-)
> Tomas
> <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
> From: Julian Kift [julian_kift at hotmail.com]
> Sent: 5/3/2015 5:58:13 AM
> To: asajay at asajay.com;detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
> Shouldn't we put it to a vote...... :>)
> > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 04:02:04 +0000
> > From: asajay at asajay.com
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
> >
> > So here's the thing. This list is essentially unmoderated.
> >
> > However, when things like this happen that are deconstructive to
> the
> > well mannered disposition of the general population I'm not
> against
> > performing some level of moderation.
> >
> > The method I choose will be to remove the subscriber.
> >
> > This does not give me grief as a historical search for content
> posted
> > by the primary offender(s) will show little, if any, actual
> Pantera
> > content.
> >
> > If this flares again, I will not hesitate to delete users though
> some
> > may think its not my position to do so. The fact is I am
> essentially
> > the -only- person maintaining this list and I do not beleive it
> should
> > be subject to this kind of vitriol for all to experience.
> >
> > Please refrain from this type of activity. Please consider this to
> be
> > a friendly warning.
> >
> > Asa Jay
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > As long as you people allow ass monkeys like Doug Sedon and
> Larry
> Weston to
> > > spew their vitriol and hate and attack others online and off,
> your
> list is
> > > doomed.
> > > 99.9% are here to talk about Cars and all things Pantera.
> > >
> > > I'm taking a break, none of this matters enough to get upset
> over,
> good
> > > thing I'm couldn't attend the rally, esp for some.
> > >
> > > Michael Shortt
> >
> >
> > --
> > Asa Jay Laughton - sent from somewhere other than home
> > ******************************************************
> > http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> > http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> > DeTomaso mailing list
> > DeTomaso at poca.com
> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
> etc.)
> use the links above.
> _______________________________________________
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
> DeTomaso mailing list
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> use the links above.
>
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>
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>
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> the links above.
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
Okay, here is the what the statutes for non-profits like ours say in
California. Internet voting, called "electronic transmission" of
ballots, is only allowed if it is specifically allowed in the club's by
laws. Ours do not. Furthermore, email voting is never allowabled
because it is not possible to truly verify an email address. Think
hackers! This one is true in almost every state, not just California.
So, that is why we are having an election to modify the by-laws of the
club.A The new amendment sets the stage so we can implement electronic
internet voting and other 21st century improvements for the Club.A It
clarifies this and other procedures surrounding amending the By-Laws
and provides a new procedure for members to propose changes to the
By-Laws directly.A And it still allows for paper ballots for people
that don't use the internet.A All good and necessary stuff. And it
brings us more in line with what most other large car clubs
do.A Although there might have been some earlier confusion, a simple
majority of vostes cast will pass the amendment.
The amendment change and ballot will be in your March Newsletter.
Please vote.
If you questions or concerns, please give me a shout.
Jeff Detrich
Secretary, POCA
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Marshall Smith
<[1]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
A A I am 100 percent in favor of electronic voting. It's time to
come in to
A A the 21st century.
A A Marshall
A A Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
A A -------- Original message --------
A A From: Bill Moore
A A Date:03/05/2015 5:32 AM (GMT-08:00)
A A To: Tomas Gunnarsson , [2]julian_kift at hotmail.com
A A Cc: [3]detomaso at poca.com
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
A A So can we all get alone and email vote . Please Marshall .
A A Cheers,
A A Bill Moore
A A Incendium Supply
A A Calgary
A A <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Tomas
A A Gunnarsson <[4]guson at home.se> </div><div>Date:2015-03-05A
12:38 AM
A A (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: [5]julian_kift at hotmail.com
</div><div>Cc:
A A [6]detomaso at poca.com </div><div>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC:
JERKS ON THE
A A LIST </div><div>
A A </div>Only if we can vote by e-mail. ;-)
A A Tomas
A A <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
A A A From: Julian Kift [[7]julian_kift at hotmail.com]
A A Sent: 5/3/2015 5:58:13 AM
A A To: [8]asajay at asajay.com;[9]detomaso at poca.com
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
A A Shouldn't we put it to a vote...... :>)
A A > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 04:02:04 +0000
A A > From: [10]asajay at asajay.com
A A > To: [11]detomaso at poca.com
A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
A A >
A A > So here's the thing. This list is essentially unmoderated.
A A >
A A > However, when things like this happen that are deconstructive to
the
A A > well mannered disposition of the general population I'm not
against
A A > performing some level of moderation.
A A >
A A > The method I choose will be to remove the subscriber.
A A >
A A > This does not give me grief as a historical search for content
posted
A A > by the primary offender(s) will show little, if any, actual
Pantera
A A > content.
A A >
A A > If this flares again, I will not hesitate to delete users though
some
A A > may think its not my position to do so. The fact is I am
essentially
A A > the -only- person maintaining this list and I do not beleive it
A A should
A A > be subject to this kind of vitriol for all to experience.
A A >
A A > Please refrain from this type of activity. Please consider this
to be
A A > a friendly warning.
A A >
A A > Asa Jay
A A >
A A >
A A >
A A > Quoting Michael Shortt <[12]michaelsavga at gmail.com>:
A A >
A A > > As long as you people allow ass monkeys like Doug Sedon and
Larry
A A Weston to
A A > > spew their vitriol and hate and attack others online and off,
your
A A list is
A A > > doomed.
A A > > 99.9% are here to talk about Cars and all things Pantera.
A A > >
A A > > I'm taking a break, none of this matters enough to get upset
over,
A A good
A A > > thing I'm couldn't attend the rally, esp for some.
A A > >
A A > > Michael Shortt
A A >
A A >
A A > --
A A > Asa Jay Laughton - sent from somewhere other than home
A A > ******************************************************
A A > [13]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
A A > [14]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
A A >
A A >
A A >
A A > _______________________________________________
A A >
A A > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
A A > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
A A > DeTomaso mailing list
A A > [15]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A > [16]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A A >
A A > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
etc.)
A A use the links above.
A A A Only if we can vote by e-mail. ;-)
A A A Tomas
A A A <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
A A A A A From: Julian Kift [[17]julian_kift at hotmail.com]
A A A Sent: 5/3/2015 5:58:13 AM
A A A To: [18]asajay at asajay.com;[19]detomaso at poca.com
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
A A A Shouldn't we put it to a vote...... :>)
A A A > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 04:02:04 +0000
A A A > From: [20]asajay at asajay.com
A A A > To: [21]detomaso at poca.com
A A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: JERKS ON THE LIST
A A A >
A A A > So here's the thing. This list is essentially unmoderated.
A A A >
A A A > However, when things like this happen that are
deconstructive to
A A the
A A A > well mannered disposition of the general population I'm not
A A against
A A A > performing some level of moderation.
A A A >
A A A > The method I choose will be to remove the subscriber.
A A A >
A A A > This does not give me grief as a historical search for
content
A A posted
A A A > by the primary offender(s) will show little, if any, actual
A A Pantera
A A A > content.
A A A >
A A A > If this flares again, I will not hesitate to delete users
though
A A some
A A A > may think its not my position to do so. The fact is I am
A A essentially
A A A > the -only- person maintaining this list and I do not beleive
it
A A A should
A A A > be subject to this kind of vitriol for all to experience.
A A A >
A A A > Please refrain from this type of activity. Please consider
this to
A A be
A A A > a friendly warning.
A A A >
A A A > Asa Jay
A A A >
A A A >
A A A >
A A A > Quoting Michael Shortt <[22]michaelsavga at gmail.com>:
A A A >
A A A > > As long as you people allow ass monkeys like Doug Sedon
and
A A Larry
A A A Weston to
A A A > > spew their vitriol and hate and attack others online and
off,
A A your
A A A list is
A A A > > doomed.
A A A > > 99.9% are here to talk about Cars and all things Pantera.
A A A > >
A A A > > I'm taking a break, none of this matters enough to get
upset
A A over,
A A A good
A A A > > thing I'm couldn't attend the rally, esp for some.
A A A > >
A A A > > Michael Shortt
A A A >
A A A >
A A A > --
A A A > Asa Jay Laughton - sent from somewhere other than home
A A A > ******************************************************
A A A > [23]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
A A A > [24]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
A A A >
A A A >
A A A >
A A A > _______________________________________________
A A A >
A A A > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
A A A > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
A A A > DeTomaso mailing list
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A A A >
A A A > To manage your subscription (change email address,
unsubscribe,
A A etc.)
A A A use the links above.
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References
1. mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
2. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
4. mailto:guson at home.se
5. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
7. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
8. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
10. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
11. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
12. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
13. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
14. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
16. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
17. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
18. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
19. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
20. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
21. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
22. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com
23. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
24. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
25. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
26. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
27. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
28. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
29. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
30. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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