[DeTomaso] Fw: Re: Memo To All POCA Chapter Presidents

[marshall smith]

> Hey John,
> 
> I had the same question as Kent. How does a change in our
> bylaws allow us to violate the California Corporations
> Code?
> 
> Also, have you distributed the proposed changes to our
> bylaws yet or are they only in the March newsletter? I would
> like to review said changes before I encourage my members to
> vote for them.
> Making it easier to change bylaws is a very serious issue
> and considerable review should be allowed by our members
> perhaps along with a professional's opinion.
> 
> Can you address what actually happened during our last
> election for board seats? I don't recall an explanation from
> our board that explained in detail why such "emotion and
> discourse" existed during and after this election. Judging
> from Mike Drew's email and other input, it seems that some
> sort of malfeasance occurred during this election. We would
> like to know exactly what happened that might explain how
> any candidate could be disenfranchised during this
> election.
> 
> Lastly, with over 30 years of successful written balloting
> distributed within our newsletter for past board elections
> (with exception of last year), is electronic voting really
> needed at this time? Perhaps the board should fix what
> happened last year before drastic changes are to be made
> this year.
> 
> 
> Marshall Smith 
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> On Mon, 3/2/15, Kent Snyder <poca1 at aol.com>
> wrote:
> 
>  Subject: Re: Memo To All POCA Chapter Presidents
>  To: jb841 at cox.net
>  Cc: mcnamee22 at sbcglobal.net,
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>  Date: Monday, March 2, 2015, 9:38 AM
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>  John;
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>  
>  I received your email and will send it
>  out to CHPIE for their review and hopefully passage in the
>  March election.  I do have one question, however.  You
> say
>  that "Because of that, the POCA Board
>  has worked hard to establish a path so that we can
>  use electronic transmission of ballots, since California
>  Non-Profit laws do NOT allow email
>  voting." 
>  
>   
>  
>  If that is the case, and
>  I haven't researched it, then how does our changing the
>  by-laws to allow voting via email, i.e., electronic
> voting,
>  still not be illegal under California
>  law?
>  
>   
>  
>  Is there a legal difference between
>  electronic voting and voting by email?  If so, is there a
>  law or court decision that backs this up?  I would hate
> for
>  every one to go to all this work if it results in no
>  change.
>  
>   
>  
>  Kent Snyder
>  
>  President
>  
>  CHPIE
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>  
>  -----Original Message-----
>  
>  From: John Buckman <jb841 at cox.net>
>  
>  To: Buckman John <jb841 at cox.net>
>  
>  Cc: McNamee John <mcnamee22 at sbcglobal.net>;
> Sowers
>  Mike <michaelsowers at hotmail.com>;
> Snyder Kent
>  <poca1 at aol.com>;
> Nicholson Jeff
>  <onebgndn at ix.netcom.com>;
> Ditucci Mike
>  <ditucci at att.net>;
> Calio Nick
>  <nacalio at comcast.net>;
> Carroll Rick
>  <rickcarroll at verizon.net>;
> D'Orazio Rob
>  <robpantera at sbcglobal.net>;
> Doddek Dave
>  <glpanteraclub at gmail.com>;
> DiGiovanna Tony
>  <tonydigi at optonline.net>;
> Stockett Joe
>  <qrtlow at gmail.com>;
> Thomas Mike
>  <mbefthomas at comcast.net>;
> Goodhart Forest
>  <forestg at att.net>;
> Wallace Jim
>  <pantera_4220 at yahoo.com>;
> Nowlin Jim
>  <flyersnest at yahoo.com>;
> Smith Marshall
>  <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>;
> Hill Brian
>  <mazdastuff at yahoo.com>;
> Barkley Richard
>  <rbarkley671 at earthlink.net>;
> Lewis Dan
>  <dan.lewis at yahoo.com>;
> Levitt Bob
>  <levitt1946 at aol.com>;
> Hirschberg Gary
>  <motorcyclegary at yahoo.com>;
> Buckman J
>  <jb841 at cox.net>
>  
>  Sent: Sat, Feb 28, 2015 8:57 pm
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>  Subject: Memo To All POCA Chapter Presidents
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>  February 28, 2015
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>  MEMO TO ALL POCA CHAPTER
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>  RE: The vote to change
>  Article X of the POCA By-Laws
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>  I’m sure all of you remember the
>  emotion and discourse about the voting in our last
> election
>  for Board seats.  Because of that,
>  the POCA Board has worked hard to establish a path so that
>  we can use electronic transmission of ballots, since
>  California Non-Profit laws do NOT allow email
>  voting.
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>  To achieve that, we have to amend
>  our current By-Laws to allow voting by the use of
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>  transmission.  And, since we are already making changes
>  to this section (Article X), we are also adding a
> provision
>  so that Members may also propose changes to the By-Laws
>  directly, giving the Members a formal way to petition the
>  Board.  Current By-Laws do not allow
>  for this.  As before, Members will
>  still be notified of elections and given the chance to
> vote
>  either by electronic transmission or by using a paper
>  ballot.   Attached is the wording of the current
>  Article X of the By-Laws, as well as the proposed changes
>  for you to read (this will be printed in the March
>  Newsletter).  This will then bring
>  this part of our By-Laws up to date and allow for future
>  improvements.  
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>  Here’s where we need your
>  help:  We would like to ask each of
>  you to contact ALL of your Chapter Members, and to
> encourage
>  ALL of them to take an interest in their Club by
>  participating in this extremely important vote.  Please
> urge them to vote “FOR” the
>  proposed amendment change.  If this
>  proposed amendment does not pass, then there is little
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>  can be done to move POCA forward. 
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>  Currently, we have approximately 815
>  Members.  In order for
>  this proposed amendment to pass, we need a MAJORITY of
> Members to vote “FOR" this change.
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>  In the best interest of every Member
>  of POCA, a “FOR” vote should be made by
>  both the current Member in good standing, and by their
>  Associate Member of record.  By voting
>  together, we feel that the potential is high for a
>  successful vote, and that more of our Members will realize
>  the current POCA Board’s efforts to improve our great
>  organization.  At the same time, our
>  Members may realize that they can and should have more
> input
>  into the workings of POCA and the Board.
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>  Also, plan to discuss this vote at
>  your March Chapter meeting (or have a special meeting). 
> Have your Members bring their ballots to
>  the meeting, and fill out their ballot after the
>  discussion.  At that time, each
>  Chapter President can then collect and forward all of the
>  ballots received to Chuck Engles for tabulation, and also
>  implore voting by mail for those Members that
>  didn’t/couldn’t attend.  We need to encourage ALL
> Members to take an
>  interest in their Club by participating in this very
>  important vote.  
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>  you have any questions or need assistance, please contact
>  any Board Member that you know.  One
>  of the Board Members will be contacting each of you during
>  the month of March.
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>  Thank you all for your
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