[DeTomaso] NPC! (was: Re: A Very Scary Obituary)

L GRAY tipo874a at msn.com
Tue Mar 3 12:00:56 EST 2015


  I'll second that Michael ! ! !

Leslie A. Gray

> On Mar 3, 2015, at 9:54 AM, "Michael Shortt" <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>   OK Everybody,
>   Since the only thing we all have in common is the car, let's just keep
>   it about the car.
>   This serves no purposes, it is divisive and we are among friends of a
>   sort.
>   Just because some of you are liberal, frontal lobotomy survivors, and
>   others are gun toting
>   patriots looking for a fight, can't we ( in the words of a street thug,
>   welfare cheat and baby daddy
>   Rodney Kind ) A Just all get along?
>   Michael Shortt
> 
>   On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Christopher Kimball
>   <[1]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>     The only thing worse than profanity is passive-aggressive
>     profanity...
> 
>   On Mar 3, 2015, at 8:19 AM, "doug sedon via DeTomaso"
>   <[2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> A  A where's the crude language?A  that i said i received an ignorant
>   spam
>> A  A post that was mostly bullshit, given that there is little
>   validity to
>> A  A the underlying issues?A  pardon me for being crude, then, if
>   that's what
>> A  A it was.A  love of country?A  please spare me the bullshit.A
>   oops, there i
>> A  A go, being crude again...
>> A  A doug s.,
>> A  A #2602
>> A  A
>   A __________________________________________________________________
>> 
>> A  A From: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> A  A To: doug sedon <[4]sedond at yahoo.com>; "[5]boyd411 at gmail.com"
>> A  A <[6]boyd411 at gmail.com>
>> A  A Cc: "[7]davidmclain39 at gmail.com" <[8]davidmclain39 at gmail.com>;
>> A  A "[9]detomaso at poca.com" <[10]detomaso at poca.com>
>> A  A Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 5:14 PM
>> A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] A Very Scary Obituary
>> A  A I often receive well intentioned emails which include inaccurate
>> A  A information innocently forwarded.A  I assume that is the case
>   here, and
>> A  A given that the underlying issues are valid, it is easy to forward
>   such
>> A  A emails, especially when you love your country.A  A response
>   including
>> A  A crude language was not necessary or appropriate.
>> A  A Ken
>> A  A
>   A __________________________________________________________________
>> 
>> A  A From: doug sedon via DeTomaso <[11]detomaso at poca.com>
>> A  A To: "[12]boyd411 at gmail.com" <[13]boyd411 at gmail.com>
>> A  A Cc: "[14]davidmclain39 at gmail.com" <[15]davidmclain39 at gmail.com>;
>> A  A "[16]detomaso at poca.com" <[17]detomaso at poca.com>
>> A  A Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:35 PM
>> A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] A Very Scary Obituary
>> A  A  A hugh, thanks for the ignorant spam.A  and jeff, thanks for
>   pointing
>> A  A out
>> A  A  A it's mostly bullshit, w/the link to snopes.A  i particularly
>   liked
>> A  A this
>> A  A  A statement there:
>> A  A  A "In the 2000 U.S. presidential election, George W. Bush won
>   most of
>> A  A the
>> A  A  A states that are net beneficiaries of federal spending
>   programs, while
>> A  A  A Al Gore won most of the states that are net contributors to
>   federal
>> A  A  A spending."
>> A  A  A i also like the yahoo article i read recently, discussing the
>   ten
>> A  A  A states w/the worst quality of life. (and the fact that the
>   majority
>> A  A are
>> A  A  A "red" states.):
>> 
>> A
>   A [1][1][18]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-states-worst-quality-life-
>   164909
>> A  A 712
>> A  A  A .html
>> A  A  A i also find it interesting that the vast majority of federal
>   govt
>> A  A  A welfare goes to the military and its corporate supporters:A
>   60% of
>> A  A the
>> A  A  A federal discretionary budget is spent there.A  what "welfare"
>   is left
>> A  A to
>> A  A  A those truly in need is like pocket change in comparison.
>> A  A  A and, while i, personally, am against amnesty for illegal
>   immigrants,
>> A  A  A (and i children born in america of parents who are both
>   illegal,
>> A  A should
>> A  A  A NOT be considered legal american citizens), i find it
>   interesting
>> A  A that
>> A  A  A those who complain the loudest about illegaql immigrants it
>   are in
>> A  A fact
>> A  A  A those who are the least willing to try to solve the
>   immigration
>> A  A  A problem, turning down every attempt to fix the problem.A  and
>   they are
>> A  A  A happy to see the wages kept artificially low, thanks to
>   illegals who
>> A  A  A will work for less money.
>> A  A  A i also find it interesting that of the 35 nations that
>   comprise the
>> A  A  A oecd, the usa's tax burden is about 33rd, yet people complain
>   about
>> A  A how
>> A  A  A much they are over-taxed.A  and wonder at the same time why
>   our
>> A  A  A infrastructure is collapsing.A  the federal gas tax is 18.4
>   cents per
>> A  A  A gallon, and has been that way for more than 20 years.A  in
>   europe, the
>> A  A  A taxes for gasoline are higher than the entire cost per gallon
>   of gas
>> A  A in
>> A  A  A america.A  total insanity.
>> A  A  A some other interesting trivia:
>> A  A  A - the cbo has said - recently - that repealing romneycare will
>   cost
>> A  A an
>> A  A  A ADDITIONAL $100b. (and romneycare sucks and was a sell-out to
>   the
>> A  A  A health insurance companies and big pharma - just think how
>   much money
>> A  A  A could have been saved if there were a single-payer public
>   option.)
>> A  A  A - america's healthcare costs - before romneycare, w/20% of its
>> A  A  A population not even covered - is far higher than any of the 35
>> A  A  A developed nations in the oecd, as a percentage of gdp, and
>   almost
>> A  A  A double the median oecd cost.A  yet, health of americans ranks
>   about
>> A  A  A 20th.
>> A  A  A - america's educational costs are amongst the highest of the
>> A  A  A industrialized world, yet americans rank about 20th in
>   education.
>> A  A  A - but hey - america leads in amount of prisons and amount of
>   those
>> A  A  A incarcerated, and amount of private gun ownership.A  and
>   whoever is in
>> A  A  A 2nd place isn't even CLOSE.
>> A  A  A - but we are only 2nd in obesity; seems we need to eat a few
>   more
>> A  A  A cheeseburgers...
>> A  A  A - the majority of entitlement programs are funded by payroll
>   taxes, a
>> A  A  A separate tax from regular income tax.A  this includes all s/s
>   and a
>> A  A  A large portion of medicare.A  this also happens to be an
>   extremely
>> A  A  A regressive tax, paid for only by the poor and the middle
>   class, as
>> A  A all
>> A  A  A income over $110k is not taxed, only income BELOW $110k is
>   taxed.
>> A  A (the
>> A  A  A system is "going broke" because the govt is borrowing against
>   it to
>> A  A pay
>> A  A  A discretionary spending expenses, and no income over $110k is
>   used to
>> A  A  A fund it.)
>> A  A  A - the fortune 500 companies pay an average of just under 20%
>   in
>> A  A income
>> A  A  A tax.
>> A  A  A - 1/4 of the fortune 500 companies pay an average of 10% in
>   income
>> A  A tax.
>> A  A  A - 1/10th of the fortune 500 companies pay ZERO in income tax.
>> A  A  A - i earn ~$120k and pay almost 40% of my income to taxes;
>   while the
>> A  A  A likes of mitt earn MILLIONS and pay about 15% of their income
>   to
>> A  A taxes.
>> A  A  A - america's tax rate as a percentage of gdp is lower now than
>   it has
>> A  A  A been any time since 1950.
>> A  A  A - america's economy has always done better when tax rates are
>   higher.
>> A  A  A - it is the repubs that are the most profligate spenders, not
>   the
>> A  A dems,
>> A  A  A in spite of their rhetoric: the former dem presidents
>   (clinton,
>> A  A carter,
>> A  A  A lbj, jfk, truman) ALL REDUCED public debt as a share of gdp,
>   while
>> A  A the
>> A  A  A last four repub presidents (gwb, ghwb, reagan, ford) ALL
>   oversaw an
>> A  A  A INCREASE in the country's indebtedness.
>> A  A  A - while the deficit has increased ~$1t/year under barack, the
>> A  A  A overwhelming majority is a direct result of gwb policies - $1t
>> A  A unfunded
>> A  A  A prescription drug plan/big pharma give-away, two unfunded
>   wars,
>> A  A ruinous
>> A  A  A tax cuts, and the revenue loss from the resultant economic
>   collapse.
>> A  A  A and ALL non-partisan economists say the ONLY prudent course
>   during a
>> A  A  A private sector economic collapse is govt stimulus spending;
>   which
>> A  A make
>> A  A  A up the rest of the deficit under barack.A  the deficit the
>   last 4
>> A  A years
>> A  A  A would have been huge REGARDLESS of who was president.A  in
>   fact, most
>> A  A  A non-partisan economists say what was wrong w/the stimulus
>   spending
>> A  A was
>> A  A  A it was too SMALL, given the true magnitude of the economic
>   collapse.
>> A  A  A but the party of "NO", said, well you know...
>> A  A  A between 1970 - 2007:
>> A  A  A Top 0.1% - ave income $5.6m - income increase since 1970 -
>   +385%
>> A  A  A Top 0.1-0.5% - ave income $878k - income increase since 1970 -
>   +141%
>> A  A  A Top 0.5-1% - ave income $443k - income increase since 1970 -
>   +90%
>> A  A  A Top 1-5% - ave income $211.5k - income increase since 1970 -
>   +59%
>> A  A  A Top 5-10% - ave income $127k - income increase since 1970 -
>   +38%
>> A  A  A Bottom 90%A  - ave income $31k - income DECREASE since 1970 -
>   MINUS
>> A  A 0.9%
>> A  A  A and, since the crash of 2007, things have only gotten even
>   worse.A  in
>> A  A  A fact, things haven't been this bad, or income distributed so
>> A  A  A disproportionately, since, uh, just before the great
>   depression in
>> A  A  A 1929...A  hmmm....
>> A  A  A so yes, i agree, the end of america as empire is near.A  but
>   not for
>> A  A the
>> A  A  A same reasons that were presented in your "article", hugh.A
>   ;~)
>> A  A  A "have a good time"; paul simon, 1975:
>> A  A  A Yesterday it was my birthday
>> A  A  A I hung one more year on the line
>> A  A  A I should be depressed, my life's a mess
>> A  A  A But I'm having a good time
>> A  A  A Oh, I've been loving and loving and loving
>> A  A  A I'm exhausted from loving so well
>> A  A  A I should go to bed but a voice in my head
>> A  A  A Says, "Ah, what the Hell"
>> A  A  A Have a good time
>> A  A  A Paranoia strikes deep in the heartland
>> A  A  A But I think it's all overdone
>> A  A  A Exaggerating this and exaggerating that
>> A  A  A They don't have no fun
>> A  A  A I don't believe what I read in the papers
>> A  A  A They're just out to capture my dime
>> A  A  A I ain't worrying and I ain't scurrying
>> A  A  A I'm having a good time
>> A  A  A Have a good time
>> A  A  A Maybe I'm laughing my way to disaster
>> A  A  A Maybe my race has been run
>> A  A  A Maybe I'm blind to the fate of mankind
>> A  A  A But what can be done?
>> A  A  A So God bless the goods we was given
>> A  A  A And God bless the U. S. of A.
>> A  A  A And God bless our standard of livin'
>> A  A  A Let's keep it that way and we'll all have a good time
>> A  A  A Have a good time
>> A  A  A Have a good time
>> A  A  A Have a good time
>> A  A  A doug s.,
>> A  A  A #2602
>> A  A References
>> A  A  A 1.
>> A
>   A [2][19]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-states-worst-quality-life-164
>   909712
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>   4. mailto:sedond at yahoo.com
>   5. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>   6. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>   7. mailto:davidmclain39 at gmail.com
>   8. mailto:davidmclain39 at gmail.com
>   9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>  10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>  11. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>  12. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>  13. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>  14. mailto:davidmclain39 at gmail.com
>  15. mailto:davidmclain39 at gmail.com
>  16. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>  17. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>  18. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-states-worst-quality-life-164909
>  19. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-states-worst-quality-life-164909712
>  20. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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