[DeTomaso] NPC! (was: Re: A Very Scary Obituary)
L GRAY
tipo874a at msn.com
Tue Mar 3 12:00:56 EST 2015
I'll second that Michael ! ! !
Leslie A. Gray
> On Mar 3, 2015, at 9:54 AM, "Michael Shortt" <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK Everybody,
> Since the only thing we all have in common is the car, let's just keep
> it about the car.
> This serves no purposes, it is divisive and we are among friends of a
> sort.
> Just because some of you are liberal, frontal lobotomy survivors, and
> others are gun toting
> patriots looking for a fight, can't we ( in the words of a street thug,
> welfare cheat and baby daddy
> Rodney Kind ) A Just all get along?
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Christopher Kimball
> <[1]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
>
> The only thing worse than profanity is passive-aggressive
> profanity...
>
> On Mar 3, 2015, at 8:19 AM, "doug sedon via DeTomaso"
> <[2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> A A where's the crude language?A that i said i received an ignorant
> spam
>> A A post that was mostly bullshit, given that there is little
> validity to
>> A A the underlying issues?A pardon me for being crude, then, if
> that's what
>> A A it was.A love of country?A please spare me the bullshit.A
> oops, there i
>> A A go, being crude again...
>> A A doug s.,
>> A A #2602
>> A A
> A __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> A A From: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> A A To: doug sedon <[4]sedond at yahoo.com>; "[5]boyd411 at gmail.com"
>> A A <[6]boyd411 at gmail.com>
>> A A Cc: "[7]davidmclain39 at gmail.com" <[8]davidmclain39 at gmail.com>;
>> A A "[9]detomaso at poca.com" <[10]detomaso at poca.com>
>> A A Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 5:14 PM
>> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] A Very Scary Obituary
>> A A I often receive well intentioned emails which include inaccurate
>> A A information innocently forwarded.A I assume that is the case
> here, and
>> A A given that the underlying issues are valid, it is easy to forward
> such
>> A A emails, especially when you love your country.A A response
> including
>> A A crude language was not necessary or appropriate.
>> A A Ken
>> A A
> A __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> A A From: doug sedon via DeTomaso <[11]detomaso at poca.com>
>> A A To: "[12]boyd411 at gmail.com" <[13]boyd411 at gmail.com>
>> A A Cc: "[14]davidmclain39 at gmail.com" <[15]davidmclain39 at gmail.com>;
>> A A "[16]detomaso at poca.com" <[17]detomaso at poca.com>
>> A A Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:35 PM
>> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] A Very Scary Obituary
>> A A A hugh, thanks for the ignorant spam.A and jeff, thanks for
> pointing
>> A A out
>> A A A it's mostly bullshit, w/the link to snopes.A i particularly
> liked
>> A A this
>> A A A statement there:
>> A A A "In the 2000 U.S. presidential election, George W. Bush won
> most of
>> A A the
>> A A A states that are net beneficiaries of federal spending
> programs, while
>> A A A Al Gore won most of the states that are net contributors to
> federal
>> A A A spending."
>> A A A i also like the yahoo article i read recently, discussing the
> ten
>> A A A states w/the worst quality of life. (and the fact that the
> majority
>> A A are
>> A A A "red" states.):
>>
>> A
> A [1][1][18]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-states-worst-quality-life-
> 164909
>> A A 712
>> A A A .html
>> A A A i also find it interesting that the vast majority of federal
> govt
>> A A A welfare goes to the military and its corporate supporters:A
> 60% of
>> A A the
>> A A A federal discretionary budget is spent there.A what "welfare"
> is left
>> A A to
>> A A A those truly in need is like pocket change in comparison.
>> A A A and, while i, personally, am against amnesty for illegal
> immigrants,
>> A A A (and i children born in america of parents who are both
> illegal,
>> A A should
>> A A A NOT be considered legal american citizens), i find it
> interesting
>> A A that
>> A A A those who complain the loudest about illegaql immigrants it
> are in
>> A A fact
>> A A A those who are the least willing to try to solve the
> immigration
>> A A A problem, turning down every attempt to fix the problem.A and
> they are
>> A A A happy to see the wages kept artificially low, thanks to
> illegals who
>> A A A will work for less money.
>> A A A i also find it interesting that of the 35 nations that
> comprise the
>> A A A oecd, the usa's tax burden is about 33rd, yet people complain
> about
>> A A how
>> A A A much they are over-taxed.A and wonder at the same time why
> our
>> A A A infrastructure is collapsing.A the federal gas tax is 18.4
> cents per
>> A A A gallon, and has been that way for more than 20 years.A in
> europe, the
>> A A A taxes for gasoline are higher than the entire cost per gallon
> of gas
>> A A in
>> A A A america.A total insanity.
>> A A A some other interesting trivia:
>> A A A - the cbo has said - recently - that repealing romneycare will
> cost
>> A A an
>> A A A ADDITIONAL $100b. (and romneycare sucks and was a sell-out to
> the
>> A A A health insurance companies and big pharma - just think how
> much money
>> A A A could have been saved if there were a single-payer public
> option.)
>> A A A - america's healthcare costs - before romneycare, w/20% of its
>> A A A population not even covered - is far higher than any of the 35
>> A A A developed nations in the oecd, as a percentage of gdp, and
> almost
>> A A A double the median oecd cost.A yet, health of americans ranks
> about
>> A A A 20th.
>> A A A - america's educational costs are amongst the highest of the
>> A A A industrialized world, yet americans rank about 20th in
> education.
>> A A A - but hey - america leads in amount of prisons and amount of
> those
>> A A A incarcerated, and amount of private gun ownership.A and
> whoever is in
>> A A A 2nd place isn't even CLOSE.
>> A A A - but we are only 2nd in obesity; seems we need to eat a few
> more
>> A A A cheeseburgers...
>> A A A - the majority of entitlement programs are funded by payroll
> taxes, a
>> A A A separate tax from regular income tax.A this includes all s/s
> and a
>> A A A large portion of medicare.A this also happens to be an
> extremely
>> A A A regressive tax, paid for only by the poor and the middle
> class, as
>> A A all
>> A A A income over $110k is not taxed, only income BELOW $110k is
> taxed.
>> A A (the
>> A A A system is "going broke" because the govt is borrowing against
> it to
>> A A pay
>> A A A discretionary spending expenses, and no income over $110k is
> used to
>> A A A fund it.)
>> A A A - the fortune 500 companies pay an average of just under 20%
> in
>> A A income
>> A A A tax.
>> A A A - 1/4 of the fortune 500 companies pay an average of 10% in
> income
>> A A tax.
>> A A A - 1/10th of the fortune 500 companies pay ZERO in income tax.
>> A A A - i earn ~$120k and pay almost 40% of my income to taxes;
> while the
>> A A A likes of mitt earn MILLIONS and pay about 15% of their income
> to
>> A A taxes.
>> A A A - america's tax rate as a percentage of gdp is lower now than
> it has
>> A A A been any time since 1950.
>> A A A - america's economy has always done better when tax rates are
> higher.
>> A A A - it is the repubs that are the most profligate spenders, not
> the
>> A A dems,
>> A A A in spite of their rhetoric: the former dem presidents
> (clinton,
>> A A carter,
>> A A A lbj, jfk, truman) ALL REDUCED public debt as a share of gdp,
> while
>> A A the
>> A A A last four repub presidents (gwb, ghwb, reagan, ford) ALL
> oversaw an
>> A A A INCREASE in the country's indebtedness.
>> A A A - while the deficit has increased ~$1t/year under barack, the
>> A A A overwhelming majority is a direct result of gwb policies - $1t
>> A A unfunded
>> A A A prescription drug plan/big pharma give-away, two unfunded
> wars,
>> A A ruinous
>> A A A tax cuts, and the revenue loss from the resultant economic
> collapse.
>> A A A and ALL non-partisan economists say the ONLY prudent course
> during a
>> A A A private sector economic collapse is govt stimulus spending;
> which
>> A A make
>> A A A up the rest of the deficit under barack.A the deficit the
> last 4
>> A A years
>> A A A would have been huge REGARDLESS of who was president.A in
> fact, most
>> A A A non-partisan economists say what was wrong w/the stimulus
> spending
>> A A was
>> A A A it was too SMALL, given the true magnitude of the economic
> collapse.
>> A A A but the party of "NO", said, well you know...
>> A A A between 1970 - 2007:
>> A A A Top 0.1% - ave income $5.6m - income increase since 1970 -
> +385%
>> A A A Top 0.1-0.5% - ave income $878k - income increase since 1970 -
> +141%
>> A A A Top 0.5-1% - ave income $443k - income increase since 1970 -
> +90%
>> A A A Top 1-5% - ave income $211.5k - income increase since 1970 -
> +59%
>> A A A Top 5-10% - ave income $127k - income increase since 1970 -
> +38%
>> A A A Bottom 90%A - ave income $31k - income DECREASE since 1970 -
> MINUS
>> A A 0.9%
>> A A A and, since the crash of 2007, things have only gotten even
> worse.A in
>> A A A fact, things haven't been this bad, or income distributed so
>> A A A disproportionately, since, uh, just before the great
> depression in
>> A A A 1929...A hmmm....
>> A A A so yes, i agree, the end of america as empire is near.A but
> not for
>> A A the
>> A A A same reasons that were presented in your "article", hugh.A
> ;~)
>> A A A "have a good time"; paul simon, 1975:
>> A A A Yesterday it was my birthday
>> A A A I hung one more year on the line
>> A A A I should be depressed, my life's a mess
>> A A A But I'm having a good time
>> A A A Oh, I've been loving and loving and loving
>> A A A I'm exhausted from loving so well
>> A A A I should go to bed but a voice in my head
>> A A A Says, "Ah, what the Hell"
>> A A A Have a good time
>> A A A Paranoia strikes deep in the heartland
>> A A A But I think it's all overdone
>> A A A Exaggerating this and exaggerating that
>> A A A They don't have no fun
>> A A A I don't believe what I read in the papers
>> A A A They're just out to capture my dime
>> A A A I ain't worrying and I ain't scurrying
>> A A A I'm having a good time
>> A A A Have a good time
>> A A A Maybe I'm laughing my way to disaster
>> A A A Maybe my race has been run
>> A A A Maybe I'm blind to the fate of mankind
>> A A A But what can be done?
>> A A A So God bless the goods we was given
>> A A A And God bless the U. S. of A.
>> A A A And God bless our standard of livin'
>> A A A Let's keep it that way and we'll all have a good time
>> A A A Have a good time
>> A A A Have a good time
>> A A A Have a good time
>> A A A doug s.,
>> A A A #2602
>> A A References
>> A A A 1.
>> A
> A [2][19]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-states-worst-quality-life-164
> 909712
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