[DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?

Tue Jun 30 11:24:05 EDT 2015

Open the windows and go fast.

Cheers,
Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary

-------- Original message --------
From: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> 
Date: 2015-06-30  8:56 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: grayjim at cox.net, julian_kift at hotmail.com 
Cc: detomaso at poca.com 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ? 

<< Their A/C systems are no different from the US versions, are they?>>

Yes they are different, they just open the windows...

Larry (all wet) - Cleveland

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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
grayjim at cox.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:13 AM
To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
Cc: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?

The only reason I ever considered it was when I could not make the R134a 
work in my car. R12 was my answer but that stuff is just supposed to be 
very efficient.

Don't they use it in Canada? Their A/C systems are no different from the 
US versions, are they?

Jim

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Julian Kift wrote:

  Mainly because US A/C systems are not designed for highly flammable 
refrigerants, whereas a propoane fuel system is.

If R12 is available why compromise on safety for a few bucks.

Julian

> From: grayjim at cox.net To: andriykoisg at yahoo.ca; 
> terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov; cengles at cox.net; sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com Date: 
> Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:09:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C 
> recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ? CC: detomaso at poca.com
> So tempted to use the stuff her in OK but law says not to be used in 
> motor vehicles. Go figure. It's OK to have a giant propane tank in 
> your car but not to use a highly refined propane in you're A/C.  Who's 
> getting paid off here?
> The original R12 works absolutely great in my car. R134a...not so 
> much.
> Jim "Mr. R12" Gray
>
> -----Original Message----- From: The Goyaniuks Sent: Sunday, June 28, 
> 2015 8:30 PM To: Himes, Terry (397C) ; Charles Engles ; 'Carguy60' Cc: 
> detomaso at poca.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone 
> try Red Tek 12a ?
> I have installed DURACOOL (a R12a type system in Canada) 5 years ago 
> in my wife's car after I replaced the failed airconditioning 
> compressor with a new one. Works great.  I intend to install the same 
> in my Pantera. Highly recommended after a proper job is done (evacuate 
> the system, check for leaks, fill etc.) BG       From: "Himes, Terry 
> (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> To: Charles Engles 
> <cengles at cox.net>; 'Carguy60' <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com> Cc: 
> "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 
> 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red 
> Tek 12a ?
>   Readily available in Sandy Eggo, (Imported from So. of the Border). 
> Contact Dan Miller (Classic Mustang) and POCA/SDP member for name, 
> number   and address of contacts.
>   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>     to contact us!"
>   Terry W. Himes  [cid:4E213040-C2CF-4D73-BFFF-33B922E4588D]
>   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>   InSight Sequence Team Lead
>   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>   Phone: (818) 393-6261
>   Cell:    (818) 653-8213
>   Fax:    (818) 393-3147
>   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Charles 
> Engles <[3]cengles at cox.net>   Date: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:45 PM 
> To: 'Carguy60' <[4]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>   Cc: "[5]detomaso at poca.com" 
> <[6]detomaso at poca.com>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - 
> anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
>   Dear Dennis,           So, with #7260 I assume that your AC still 
> uses R12.  My  #7171   does   too.  The practical and politically 
> incorrect option that is elegantly   simple is to check your local 
> Craigslist for R12 Freon.  Old genuine   R12 is   still out there.  As 
> the demand for it is quite low, the price of it   has   returned to 
> earth compared to the early days before and after the R135 
> transition.  Just buy some real R12 and use it without any of the 
> worrisome   considerations of substitutes.  I used pound of freon to 
> top off the   Pantera   before the run to Houston. 
> Excommunicated by the Vatican,  Chuck Engles   ----Original 
> Message-----   From: DeTomaso [[7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On 
> Behalf Of   Carguy60 via   DeTomaso   Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 7:08 
> PM   To: [8]deTomaso at POCA.com   Subject: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge 
> - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?   Here is the link, seems it should work 
> without much retrofit. I don't   know a   lot about AC systems. Any 
> thoughts from those that do?   Dennis   7260 
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   Open the windows and go fast.

   Cheers,
   Bill Moore
   Incendium Supply
   Calgary

   -------- Original message --------
   From: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
   Date: 2015-06-30 8:56 AM (GMT-07:00)
   To: grayjim at cox.net, julian_kift at hotmail.com
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   << Their A/C systems are no different from the US versions, are they?>>
   Yes they are different, they just open the windows...
   Larry (all wet) - Cleveland
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   grayjim at cox.net
   Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:13 AM
   To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   The only reason I ever considered it was when I could not make the
   R134a
   work in my car. R12 was my answer but that stuff is just supposed to be
   very efficient.
   Don't they use it in Canada? Their A/C systems are no different from
   the
   US versions, are they?
   Jim
   On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
     Mainly because US A/C systems are not designed for highly flammable
   refrigerants, whereas a propoane fuel system is.
   If R12 is available why compromise on safety for a few bucks.
   Julian
   > From: grayjim at cox.net To: andriykoisg at yahoo.ca;
   > terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov; cengles at cox.net; sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com Date:
   > Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:09:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C
   > recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ? CC: detomaso at poca.com
   > So tempted to use the stuff her in OK but law says not to be used in
   > motor vehicles. Go figure. It's OK to have a giant propane tank in
   > your car but not to use a highly refined propane in you're A/C.
   Who's
   > getting paid off here?
   > The original R12 works absolutely great in my car. R134a...not so
   > much.
   > Jim "Mr. R12" Gray
   >
   > -----Original Message----- From: The Goyaniuks Sent: Sunday, June 28,
   > 2015 8:30 PM To: Himes, Terry (397C) ; Charles Engles ; 'Carguy60'
   Cc:
   > detomaso at poca.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone
   > try Red Tek 12a ?
   > I have installed DURACOOL (a R12a type system in Canada) 5 years ago
   > in my wife's car after I replaced the failed airconditioning
   > compressor with a new one. Works great.  I intend to install the same
   > in my Pantera. Highly recommended after a proper job is done
   (evacuate
   > the system, check for leaks, fill etc.) BG       From: "Himes, Terry
   > (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> To: Charles Engles
   > <cengles at cox.net>; 'Carguy60' <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com> Cc:
   > "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015
   > 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red
   > Tek 12a ?
   >   Readily available in Sandy Eggo, (Imported from So. of the Border).
   > Contact Dan Miller (Classic Mustang) and POCA/SDP member for name,
   > number   and address of contacts.
   >   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   >     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   >     to contact us!"
   >   Terry W. Himes  [cid:4E213040-C2CF-4D73-BFFF-33B922E4588D]
   >   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   >   InSight Sequence Team Lead
   >   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
   >   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   >   Cell:    (818) 653-8213
   >   Fax:    (818) 393-3147
   >   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   >   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Charles
   > Engles <[3]cengles at cox.net>   Date: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:45 PM
   > To: 'Carguy60' <[4]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>   Cc: "[5]detomaso at poca.com"
   > <[6]detomaso at poca.com>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge -
   > anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
   >   Dear Dennis,           So, with #7260 I assume that your AC still
   > uses R12.  My  #7171   does   too.  The practical and politically
   > incorrect option that is elegantly   simple is to check your local
   > Craigslist for R12 Freon.  Old genuine   R12 is   still out there.
   As
   > the demand for it is quite low, the price of it   has   returned to
   > earth compared to the early days before and after the R135
   > transition.  Just buy some real R12 and use it without any of the
   > worrisome   considerations of substitutes.  I used pound of freon to
   > top off the   Pantera   before the run to Houston.
   > Excommunicated by the Vatican,  Chuck Engles   ----Original
   > Message-----   From: DeTomaso [[7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
   On
   > Behalf Of   Carguy60 via   DeTomaso   Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015
   7:08
   > PM   To: [8]deTomaso at POCA.com   Subject: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C
   recharge
   > - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?   Here is the link, seems it should work
   > without much retrofit. I don't   know a   lot about AC systems. Any
   > thoughts from those that do?   Dennis   7260
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