[DeTomaso] Radiators

[Stephen]

Inquiry sent.  Gads - I really appreciate the feedback from all of you.  

One challenge is that, switching from the Fluidyne will mean figuring out mounting for fans.  Not insurmountable (pun?).  I plan to talk to Dennis first thing today, as well as Flow Cooler.  What I don't see doing is going back with fluidyne...


Stephen Nelson


-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Al Chelini
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:45 AM
To: michael barnes
Cc: Mike Drew; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators

Hi, gang,

FWIW, I just got thru with a leaky radiator project on another (extensively
modified) make vehicle, which came with a Ron Davis (RD) radiator.  That RD unit developed some serious leaks along the top & bottom ends where the side tanks meet the supporting rails; and I thought I'd share this learning experience with the group.

After calling RD's Customer Support seeking repairs, I found that:
1) they can't repair an aluminum radiator once it's come in contact with radiator coolant. They claim it contaminates the metal, making it impossible to TIG weld successfully.
2) they will be happy to sell me a new unit .....  about $1000, delivered.
But, with only their standard 90 day limited warranty. Kinda' chintzy policy for such an expensive part, when the GM replacement version is only $150. Are these things considered a consumable, like brake pads?
3) On a recommendation from a trusted source, I picked up a Mishimoto radiator for about 40% the cost of a new RD, and it has a *Lifetime* warranty. Everyone who has seen the new part claims that the workmanship is superior to the RD.
4) But, I checked the mishimoto.com website, they don't offer one for the Pantera (yet).  But, I did leave an email suggesting that they market one.

Here's the pitch: Maybe if a few other list members would contact them expressing a desire to buy their Pantera version, they might be motivated to start producing them. They make radiators for cars which are much lower volume than the Pantera.

Bonus: Mishimoto is a huge company, and their customer service is outstanding. The Lifetime warranty sold me.

Final thought:
The OEM Pantera radiator is a very good part; but, some of these were not built correctly. Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) #8, article 61 describes a correcting modification which can be done by a competent radiator shop.

FWIW,
Al (3915)
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On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:26 AM, michael barnes < michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> I bought a Superior radiator,it was made upside down so obviously 
> wouldn't fit .After sales was shocking , three months and no 
> replacement 😡
>
> Sent by Michael Barnes
>
> > On 29 Jun 2015, at 07:05, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have a stock radiator for sale if anyone interested. It has a 
> > radiator
> cap on it which weird but I suppose you can weld that off?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 28, 2015, at 21:10, marshallgsmith 
> >> <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Don't discount the original radiator. It is very good and has 
> >> cooled my  car for many years.All that is needed is modern day high volume fans.
> >>
> >>  Marshall
> >>
> >>  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> >>
> >>  -------- Original message --------
> >>  From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> >>  Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
> >>  To: mikeldrew at aol.com, steve at snclocks.com, detomaso at poca.com
> >>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
> >>  For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice radiator for 
> >> the  Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells their 
> >> version on  eBay with some happy customers.
> >>  Julian
> >>  Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
> >>  To: steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
> >>  From: detomaso at poca.com
> >>  In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37, steve at snclocks.com writes:
> >>> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have a seep 
> >>> from where one of the radiator tubes enters the header tank.  
> >>> Looks like
> >>  it has been
> >>> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran the engine 
> >>> at
> >>  1500
> >>> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c.  It's a Fluidyne radiator,
> >>  bought
> >>> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
> >>>
> >>>>> Bummer.   Many have discovered to their sadness that Fluidyne
> >>  radiators
> >>  (at least the first-generation models for the Pantera) cooled very 
> >> well
> >
>
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On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:26 AM, michael barnes < michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> I bought a Superior radiator,it was made upside down so obviously 
> wouldn't fit .After sales was shocking , three months and no 
> replacement 😡
>
> Sent by Michael Barnes
>
> > On 29 Jun 2015, at 07:05, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have a stock radiator for sale if anyone interested. It has a 
> > radiator
> cap on it which weird but I suppose you can weld that off?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 28, 2015, at 21:10, marshallgsmith 
> >> <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Don't discount the original radiator. It is very good and has 
> >> cooled my  car for many years.All that is needed is modern day high volume fans.
> >>
> >>  Marshall
> >>
> >>  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> >>
> >>  -------- Original message --------
> >>  From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> >>  Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
> >>  To: mikeldrew at aol.com, steve at snclocks.com, detomaso at poca.com
> >>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
> >>  For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice radiator for 
> >> the  Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells their 
> >> version on  eBay with some happy customers.
> >>  Julian
> >>  Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
> >>  To: steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
> >>  From: detomaso at poca.com
> >>  In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37, steve at snclocks.com writes:
> >>> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have a seep 
> >>> from where one of the radiator tubes enters the header tank.  
> >>> Looks like
> >>  it has been
> >>> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran the engine 
> >>> at
> >>  1500
> >>> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c.  It's a Fluidyne radiator,
> >>  bought
> >>> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
> >>>
> >>>>> Bummer.   Many have discovered to their sadness that Fluidyne
> >>  radiators
> >>  (at least the first-generation models for the Pantera) cooled very 
> >> well
> >
>
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