[DeTomaso] Radiators
Charles McCall
charlesmccall at gmail.com
Mon Jun 29 08:29:21 EDT 2015
Inquiry sent, Al, thanks. May be in the market for a new radiator, as mine
is marking its territory a Little more every day. A lifetime warranty would
be fantastic!
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Al Chelini <pantera at cox.net> wrote:
> Hi, gang,
> FWIW, I just got thru with a leaky radiator project on another
> (extensively modified) make vehicle, which came with a Ron Davis (RD)
> radiator.A That RD unit developed some serious leaks along the top &
> bottom ends where the side tanks meet the supporting rails; and I
> thought I'd share this learning experience with the group.
> After calling RD's Customer Support seeking repairs, I found that:
> 1) they can't repair an aluminum radiator once it's come in contact
> with radiator coolant. They claim it contaminates the metal, making it
> impossible to TIG weld successfully.
> 2) they will be happy to sell me a new unit .....A about $1000,
> delivered.A But, with only their standard 90 day limited warranty.
> Kinda' chintzy policy for such an expensive part, when the GM
> replacement version is only $150. Are these things considered a
> consumable, like brake pads?
> 3) On a recommendation from a trusted source, I picked up a Mishimoto
> radiator for about 40% the cost of a new RD, and it has a Lifetime
> warranty. Everyone who has seen the new part claims that the
> workmanship is superior to the RD.A
> 4) But, I checked the [1]mishimoto.com website, they don't offer one
> for the Pantera (yet).A But, I did leave an email suggesting that they
> market one.
> Here's the pitch: Maybe if a few other list members would contact them
> expressing a desire to buy their Pantera version, they might be
> motivated to start producing them. They make radiators for cars which
> are much lower volume than the Pantera.
> Bonus: Mishimoto is a huge company, and their customer service is
> outstanding. The Lifetime warranty sold me.
> Final thought:
> The OEM Pantera radiator is a very good part; but, some of these were
> not built correctly. Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) #8, article 61
> describes a correcting modification which can be done by a competent
> radiator shop.
> FWIW,
> Al (3915)
> ==================================================================
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:26 AM, michael barnes
> <[2]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I bought a Superior radiator,it was made upside down so obviously
> wouldn't fit .After sales was shocking , three months and no
> replacement d-!
> Sent by Michael Barnes
> > On 29 Jun 2015, at 07:05, Ed Mendez <[3]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have a stock radiator for sale if anyone interested. It has a
> radiator cap on it which weird but I suppose you can weld that off?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 28, 2015, at 21:10, marshallgsmith
> <[4]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>A Don't discount the original radiator. It is very good and has
> cooled my
> >>A car for many years.All that is needed is modern day high volume
> fans.
> >>
> >>A Marshall
> >>
> >>A Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> >>
> >>A -------- Original message --------
> >>A From: Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> >>A Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
> >>A To: [6]mikeldrew at aol.com, [7]steve at snclocks.com,
> [8]detomaso at poca.com
> >>A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
> >>A For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice radiator
> for the
> >>A Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells their
> version on
> >>A eBay with some happy customers.
> >>A Julian
> >>A Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
> >>A To: [9]steve at snclocks.com; [10]detomaso at poca.com
> >>A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
> >>A From: [11]detomaso at poca.com
> >>A In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37, [12]steve at snclocks.com
> writes:
> >>> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have a seep
> from
> >>> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header tank.A Looks
> like
> >>A it has been
> >>> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran the
> engine at
> >>A 1500
> >>> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c.A It's a Fluidyne
> radiator,
> >>A bought
> >>> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
> >>>
> >>>>> Bummer.A A Many have discovered to their sadness that
> Fluidyne
> >>A radiators
> >>A (at least the first-generation models for the Pantera) cooled
> very well
> >
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> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:26 AM, michael barnes
> <[15]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I bought a Superior radiator,it was made upside down so obviously
> wouldn't fit .After sales was shocking , three months and no
> replacement d-!
> Sent by Michael Barnes
> > On 29 Jun 2015, at 07:05, Ed Mendez <[16]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have a stock radiator for sale if anyone interested. It has a
> radiator cap on it which weird but I suppose you can weld that off?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 28, 2015, at 21:10, marshallgsmith
> <[17]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>A Don't discount the original radiator. It is very good and has
> cooled my
> >>A car for many years.All that is needed is modern day high volume
> fans.
> >>
> >>A Marshall
> >>
> >>A Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> >>
> >>A -------- Original message --------
> >>A From: Julian Kift <[18]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> >>A Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
> >>A To: [19]mikeldrew at aol.com, [20]steve at snclocks.com,
> [21]detomaso at poca.com
> >>A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
> >>A For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice radiator
> for the
> >>A Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells their
> version on
> >>A eBay with some happy customers.
> >>A Julian
> >>A Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
> >>A To: [22]steve at snclocks.com; [23]detomaso at poca.com
> >>A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
> >>A From: [24]detomaso at poca.com
> >>A In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37, [25]steve at snclocks.com
> writes:
> >>> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have a seep
> from
> >>> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header tank.A Looks
> like
> >>A it has been
> >>> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran the
> engine at
> >>A 1500
> >>> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c.A It's a Fluidyne
> radiator,
> >>A bought
> >>> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
> >>>
> >>>>> Bummer.A A Many have discovered to their sadness that
> Fluidyne
> >>A radiators
> >>A (at least the first-generation models for the Pantera) cooled
> very well
> >
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> References
>
> 1. http://mishimoto.com/
> 2. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> 3. mailto:edducati at mac.com
> 4. mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
> 5. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 6. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
> 7. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
> 8. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 9. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
> 10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 11. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 12. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
> 13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 14. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 15. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> 16. mailto:edducati at mac.com
> 17. mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
> 18. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 19. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
> 20. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
> 21. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 22. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
> 23. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 24. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 25. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
> 26. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 27. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
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Inquiry sent, Al, thanks. May beA in the market for a new radiator, as
mine is marking its territory a Little more every day. A lifetime
warranty would be fantastic!
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Al Chelini <[1]pantera at cox.net> wrote:
A A Hi, gang,
A A FWIW, I just got thru with a leaky radiator project on another
A A (extensively modified) make vehicle, which came with a Ron
Davis (RD)
A A radiator.AA That RD unit developed some serious leaks along
the top &
A A bottom ends where the side tanks meet the supporting rails; and
I
A A thought I'd share this learning experience with the group.
A A After calling RD's Customer Support seeking repairs, I found
that:
A A 1) they can't repair an aluminum radiator once it's come in
contact
A A with radiator coolant. They claim it contaminates the metal,
making it
A A impossible to TIG weld successfully.
A A 2) they will be happy to sell me a new unit .....AA about
$1000,
A A delivered.AA But, with only their standard 90 day limited
warranty.
A A Kinda' chintzy policy for such an expensive part, when the GM
A A replacement version is only $150. Are these things considered a
A A consumable, like brake pads?
A A 3) On a recommendation from a trusted source, I picked up a
Mishimoto
A A radiator for about 40% the cost of a new RD, and it has a
Lifetime
A A warranty. Everyone who has seen the new part claims that the
A A workmanship is superior to the RD.A
A A 4) But, I checked the [1][2]mishimoto.com website, they don't
offer one
A A for the Pantera (yet).AA But, I did leave an email suggesting
that they
A A market one.
A A Here's the pitch: Maybe if a few other list members would
contact them
A A expressing a desire to buy their Pantera version, they might be
A A motivated to start producing them. They make radiators for cars
which
A A are much lower volume than the Pantera.
A A Bonus: Mishimoto is a huge company, and their customer service
is
A A outstanding. The Lifetime warranty sold me.
A A Final thought:
A A The OEM Pantera radiator is a very good part; but, some of
these were
A A not built correctly. Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) #8,
article 61
A A describes a correcting modification which can be done by a
competent
A A radiator shop.
A A FWIW,
A A Al (3915)
A
A ==================================================================
A A On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:26 AM, michael barnes
A A <[2][3]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
A A A I bought a Superior radiator,it was made upside down so
obviously
A A A wouldn't fit .After sales was shocking , three months and no
A A A replacement d-!
A A A Sent by Michael Barnes
A A A > On 29 Jun 2015, at 07:05, Ed Mendez
<[3][4]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
A A A >
A A A > I have a stock radiator for sale if anyone interested. It
has a
A A A radiator cap on it which weird but I suppose you can weld
that off?
A A A >
A A A > Ed
A A A >
A A A >
A A A >> On Jun 28, 2015, at 21:10, marshallgsmith
A A A <[4][5]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
A A A >>
A A A >>AA Don't discount the original radiator. It is very good
and has
A A A cooled my
A A A >>AA car for many years.All that is needed is modern day
high volume
A A A fans.
A A A >>
A A A >>AA Marshall
A A A >>
A A A >>AA Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
A A A >>
A A A >>AA -------- Original message --------
A A A >>AA From: Julian Kift <[5][6]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A A >>AA Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
A A A >>AA To: [6][7]mikeldrew at aol.com, [7][8]steve at snclocks.com,
A A A [8][9]detomaso at poca.com
A A A >>AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
A A A >>AA For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice
radiator
A A A for the
A A A >>AA Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells
their
A A A version on
A A A >>AA eBay with some happy customers.
A A A >>AA Julian
A A A >>AA Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
A A A >>AA To: [9][10]steve at snclocks.com;
[10][11]detomaso at poca.com
A A A >>AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
A A A >>AA From: [11][12]detomaso at poca.com
A A A >>AA In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37,
[12][13]steve at snclocks.com
A A A writes:
A A A >>> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have
a seep
A A A from
A A A >>> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header
tank.AA Looks
A A A like
A A A >>AA it has been
A A A >>> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran
the
A A A engine at
A A A >>AA 1500
A A A >>> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c.AA It's a Fluidyne
A A A radiator,
A A A >>AA bought
A A A >>> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
A A A >>>
A A A >>>>> Bummer.AA A Many have discovered to their sadness
that
A A A Fluidyne
A A A >>AA radiators
A A A >>AA (at least the first-generation models for the Pantera)
cooled
A A A very well
A A A >
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A A On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 1:26 AM, michael barnes
A A <[15][16]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
A A A I bought a Superior radiator,it was made upside down so
obviously
A A A wouldn't fit .After sales was shocking , three months and no
A A A replacement d-!
A A A Sent by Michael Barnes
A A A > On 29 Jun 2015, at 07:05, Ed Mendez
<[16][17]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
A A A >
A A A > I have a stock radiator for sale if anyone interested. It
has a
A A A radiator cap on it which weird but I suppose you can weld
that off?
A A A >
A A A > Ed
A A A >
A A A >
A A A >> On Jun 28, 2015, at 21:10, marshallgsmith
A A A <[17][18]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
A A A >>
A A A >>AA Don't discount the original radiator. It is very good
and has
A A A cooled my
A A A >>AA car for many years.All that is needed is modern day
high volume
A A A fans.
A A A >>
A A A >>AA Marshall
A A A >>
A A A >>AA Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
A A A >>
A A A >>AA -------- Original message --------
A A A >>AA From: Julian Kift <[18][19]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A A >>AA Date: 06/28/2015 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
A A A >>AA To: [19][20]mikeldrew at aol.com,
[20][21]steve at snclocks.com,
A A A [21][22]detomaso at poca.com
A A A >>AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
A A A >>AA For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice
radiator
A A A for the
A A A >>AA Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells
their
A A A version on
A A A >>AA eBay with some happy customers.
A A A >>AA Julian
A A A >>AA Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
A A A >>AA To: [22][23]steve at snclocks.com;
[23][24]detomaso at poca.com
A A A >>AA Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
A A A >>AA From: [24][25]detomaso at poca.com
A A A >>AA In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37,
[25][26]steve at snclocks.com
A A A writes:
A A A >>> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have
a seep
A A A from
A A A >>> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header
tank.AA Looks
A A A like
A A A >>AA it has been
A A A >>> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran
the
A A A engine at
A A A >>AA 1500
A A A >>> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c.AA It's a Fluidyne
A A A radiator,
A A A >>AA bought
A A A >>> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
A A A >>>
A A A >>>>> Bummer.AA A Many have discovered to their sadness
that
A A A Fluidyne
A A A >>AA radiators
A A A >>AA (at least the first-generation models for the Pantera)
cooled
A A A very well
A A A >
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A A 2. mailto:[30]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
A A 3. mailto:[31]edducati at mac.com
A A 4. mailto:[32]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
A A 5. mailto:[33]julian_kift at hotmail.com
A A 6. mailto:[34]mikeldrew at aol.com
A A 7. mailto:[35]steve at snclocks.com
A A 8. mailto:[36]detomaso at poca.com
A A 9. mailto:[37]steve at snclocks.com
A 10. mailto:[38]detomaso at poca.com
A 11. mailto:[39]detomaso at poca.com
A 12. mailto:[40]steve at snclocks.com
A 13. mailto:[41]DeTomaso at poca.com
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A 15. mailto:[43]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
A 16. mailto:[44]edducati at mac.com
A 17. mailto:[45]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
A 18. mailto:[46]julian_kift at hotmail.com
A 19. mailto:[47]mikeldrew at aol.com
A 20. mailto:[48]steve at snclocks.com
A 21. mailto:[49]detomaso at poca.com
A 22. mailto:[50]steve at snclocks.com
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2. http://mishimoto.com/
3. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
4. mailto:edducati at mac.com
5. mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
6. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
7. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
8. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
10. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
11. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
13. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
16. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
17. mailto:edducati at mac.com
18. mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
19. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
20. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
21. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
22. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
23. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
24. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
25. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
26. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
27. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
28. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
29. http://mishimoto.com/
30. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
31. mailto:edducati at mac.com
32. mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
33. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
34. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
35. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
36. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
37. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
38. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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40. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
41. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
42. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
43. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
44. mailto:edducati at mac.com
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