[DeTomaso] Radiators

B Hower b.hower3400 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 29 07:38:44 EDT 2015 

I have only about 4,000 miles on a D.Q./ Ron Davis radiator and fans. So far I like it. On this last 2,500 mile trip I got caught in stop and go traffic ( an accident ) and temperature stayed right at normal operating point, even though it was a hot day. 
      From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
 To: mikeldrew at aol.com; steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at poca.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
   
  For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice radiator for the
  Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells their version on
  eBay with some happy customers.
  Julian
  Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
  To: steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at poca.com
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
  From: detomaso at poca.com

In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37, steve at snclocks.com writes:


> Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have a seep from
> where one of the radiator tubes enters the header tank.  Looks like it has bee
n
> there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran the engine at 1500
> rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c.  It's a Fluidyne radiator, bought
> and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
>
>>>Bummer.  Many have discovered to their sadness that Fluidyne radiators
(at least the first-generation models for the Pantera) cooled very well but
had very poor longevity.
>
> >Hence the following questions:
>
> Is it worth getting the leak tig'd?  I have no doubt that a friend can
> weld up the current leak - it looks to be on the front of the tube and pretty
> accessible.  But, search "Fluidyne radiator leak" and one gets a lot of
> hits.  What is the experience of you guys who have them in your cars?
>
>>>I only have second-hand experience with them.  Typically when they
start leaking, it's not due to an insult (i.e. rock hitting a tube), but rather
they leak where the tubes join the end tanks.  And if you contact Fluidyne
to ask them WTF, they tell you it's not repairable, but they will happily
sell you a new one at full price.

Asa Jay had a remarkable experience with them; they actually listened to
his problem, and eventually stood behind their product.  But his experience
is the exception rather than the rule.

On the other hand, if your leak is caused by a hole in a tube and it can be
accessed and fixed, it's certainly worth a try?
>
> >I see that FlowKooler has a more conventional radiator (not aluminum).
> Do any of you have experience with their unit?  I note they state:  "
> Repeated calls from Pantera car owners complaining about leaking aluminum
> radiators in their Panteras led FlowKooler to work with its sister company, Th
e
> Brassworks, to design not only the primary radiator and fan assembly but the
> auxiliary cooling system for the rear of the car."  While their radiator
> costs more, well, perhaps not depending on how lont Fluidyne's last.
>
> Any and all comments welcome.
>
>>>I've long advocated use of the standard (not 'Phoenix') Hall Pantera
brass radiator.  They cost about the same as the Fluidyne units, cool just as
well, and are infinitely repairable by a local radiator shop in the event of
a problem.  My car runs down the road right at 180 degrees, and idling in
traffic forever, it will get up to about 195 with both fans running.  Lori
has the same radiator/fans in her car with exactly the same results.

If you have to buy one, I can't recommend that one highly enough.  But if
you can get away with repairing yours, I'd try that first.

Good luck!

Mike

  _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum Managed
  by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing
  list DeTomaso at poca.com
  http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com To manage your
  subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links
  above.

_______________________________________________

Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
DeTomaso mailing list
DeTomaso at poca.com
http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com

To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.


  
-------------- next part --------------
   I have only about 4,000 miles on a D.Q./ Ron Davis radiator and fans.
   So far I like it. On this last 2,500 mile trip I got caught in stop and
   go traffic ( an accident ) and temperature stayed right at normal
   operating point, even though it was a hot day.
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   To: mikeldrew at aol.com; steve at snclocks.com; detomaso at poca.com
   Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:52 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
     For other options in aluminum Ron Davies makes a nice radiator for
   the
     Pantera by all accounts and Superior Radiator sells their version on
     eBay with some happy customers.
     Julian
     Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:10:23 -0400
     To: [1]steve at snclocks.com; [2]detomaso at poca.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiators
     From: [3]detomaso at poca.com
   In a message dated 6/28/15 15 34 37, [4]steve at snclocks.com writes:
   > Whilst I am enjoying driving 5332, I noticed that I have a seep from
   > where one of the radiator tubes enters the header tank.  Looks like
   it has bee
   n
   > there a while, small seep, but left a puddle when I ran the engine at
   1500
   > rpm for 10 minutes to charge the a/c.  It's a Fluidyne radiator,
   bought
   > and installed in 2011, with perhaps 4,000 miles on it.
   >
   >>>Bummer.  Many have discovered to their sadness that Fluidyne
   radiators
   (at least the first-generation models for the Pantera) cooled very well
   but
   had very poor longevity.
   >
   > >Hence the following questions:
   >
   > Is it worth getting the leak tig'd?  I have no doubt that a friend
   can
   > weld up the current leak - it looks to be on the front of the tube
   and pretty
   > accessible.  But, search "Fluidyne radiator leak" and one gets a lot
   of
   > hits.  What is the experience of you guys who have them in your cars?
   >
   >>>I only have second-hand experience with them.  Typically when they
   start leaking, it's not due to an insult (i.e. rock hitting a tube),
   but rather
   they leak where the tubes join the end tanks.  And if you contact
   Fluidyne
   to ask them WTF, they tell you it's not repairable, but they will
   happily
   sell you a new one at full price.
   Asa Jay had a remarkable experience with them; they actually listened
   to
   his problem, and eventually stood behind their product.  But his
   experience
   is the exception rather than the rule.
   On the other hand, if your leak is caused by a hole in a tube and it
   can be
   accessed and fixed, it's certainly worth a try?
   >
   > >I see that FlowKooler has a more conventional radiator (not
   aluminum).
   > Do any of you have experience with their unit?  I note they state:  "
   > Repeated calls from Pantera car owners complaining about leaking
   aluminum
   > radiators in their Panteras led FlowKooler to work with its sister
   company, Th
   e
   > Brassworks, to design not only the primary radiator and fan assembly
   but the
   > auxiliary cooling system for the rear of the car."  While their
   radiator
   > costs more, well, perhaps not depending on how lont Fluidyne's last.
   >
   > Any and all comments welcome.
   >
   >>>I've long advocated use of the standard (not 'Phoenix') Hall Pantera
   brass radiator.  They cost about the same as the Fluidyne units, cool
   just as
   well, and are infinitely repairable by a local radiator shop in the
   event of
   a problem.  My car runs down the road right at 180 degrees, and idling
   in
   traffic forever, it will get up to about 195 with both fans running.
   Lori
   has the same radiator/fans in her car with exactly the same results.
   If you have to buy one, I can't recommend that one highly enough.  But
   if
   you can get away with repairing yours, I'd try that first.
   Good luck!
   Mike
     _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum
   Managed
     by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing
     list [5]DeTomaso at poca.com
     [6]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com To manage your
     subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links
     above.
   _______________________________________________
   Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
   DeTomaso mailing list
   [7]DeTomaso at poca.com
   [8]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
   use the links above.

References

   1. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
   2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   4. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
   5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com

More information about the DeTomaso mailing list