[DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New $120 Pantera racks on ebay from San Diego?
Mike Drew
MikeLDrew at aol.com
Thu Jun 4 20:35:12 EDT 2015
Ken,
See my post from a couple of years ago when I tested them side by side. The difference seems trivial but it's critical. There's no way to fit the Pantera clamps to the Ferrari rack without machining one or the other.
Not only no, but hell no it won't go....
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:59, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I was responding to the comment about a loose fit and needing shims. I understand your observation about a half mm width issue.
>
> 14mm is 0.55118110236 inches, 9/16 is 0.5625 inches so based on these numbers, if I am taking you correctly, the width of the ring on the driver's side of the rack is 0.0113 inches too narrow. I can't imaging that being much of an issue?
>
> Ken
>
>
> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New $120 Pantera racks on ebay from San Diego?
>
> Ken,
>
> The issue is the width of the opening on the casting for the rack clamps in the drivers side. Pantera is 9/16 and Ferrari is 14mm. Ferrari is about .65mm too narrow. Either need to open up the opening on the rack or narrow the clamps. No issue on the passenger side.
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:33, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> > Just got the rack, ordered it yesterday.
> > I measure the OD of the mounting surfaces, was 1.48". I measured
> > a Pantera rack last night, 1.46". I'll try fitting it tonight if I
> > have time. 0.02" over sized seems pretty close.
> > Ken
> > __________________________________________________________________
> >
> > From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> > To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; mark skwarek
> > <ehpantera at yahoo.com>; Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>; Boyd Casey
> > <boyd411 at gmail.com>; De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New $120 Pantera racks on
> > ebay from San Diego?
> > How many time have you heard a vendor say "it bolts right in".
> > I purchased 2 of these racks when the discussion came up some time
> > back, they are one in the same, so plan on a slight modification to
> > your mounting bracket as conveyed by Mike.
> > Julian
> > Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:29:08 +0000
> > To: [1]ehpantera at yahoo.com; [2]bill at incendium.com;
> > [3]boyd411 at gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New $120 Pantera racks
> > on
> > ebay from San Diego?
> > From: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> > CC: [5]detomaso at poca.com
> > Mark,
> > I guess I'm not sure Mike looked at the same rack?
> > [1][6]http://www.ebay.com/itm/290640157982
> > I talked to a guy at the seller who seemed to really know the details,
> > and he sa
> > id it bolts in. Also searched the Internet and there are a lot of
> > comments that
> > the 308 and Pantera use the same rack. So I'm not sure what rack Mike
> > looked a
> > t.
> > Mine was shipped today and I'll do a test fit when I get it.
> > Ken
> > From: mark skwarek via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
> > To: Ken Green <[8]kenn_green at yahoo.com>; Bill Moore
> > <[9]bill at incendium.com>; Boyd Cas
> > ey <[10]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Detomaso List <[11]detomaso at poca.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 5:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New Pantera racks on ebay
> > from Sa
> > n Diego?
> > Ken,
> > Here is a link to Mike's review of the steering rack.
> > [1][2][12]http://poca.com/pipermail/deto...February/224739.html
> > Right now the price is around $119.00.
> > Mark
> > On Thursday, June 4, 2015 1:02 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
> > <[13]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> > Hi Bill, Boyd,
> > It is this rack:
> > [1][2][3][14]http://www.ebay.com/itm/290640157982
> > I have search the web and talked to them and it appears it fits a
> > Pantera.
> > Ken
> >
> > __________________________________________________________________
> > From: Bill Moore <[3][15]bill at incendium.com>
> > To: Boyd Casey <[4][16]boyd411 at gmail.com>; Ken Green
> > <[5][17]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: Detomaso List <[6][18]detomaso at poca.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 9:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New Pantera racks on
> > ebay
> > from San Diego?
> > Ya Ken, what are you buying ?
> > Cheers,
> > Bill Moore
> > Incendium Supply
> > Calgary
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Boyd Casey <[2][7][19]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> > Date: 2015-06-03 8:44 PM (GMT-07:00)
> > To: Ken Green <[3][8][20]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
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> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New Pantera racks
> > on
> > ebay
> > from San Diego?
> > Ken, did you post a link? because none cane through. I personally
> > would
> > like to see.
> > Boyd
> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
> > <[5][10][22]detomaso at poca.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Did anyone buy one of these? They won't confirm that they
> > fit
> > a
> >> Pantera.
> >> Ken
> >>
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Ken,
See my post from a couple of years ago when I tested them side by side.
The difference seems trivial but it's critical. There's no way to fit
the Pantera clamps to the Ferrari rack without machining one or the
other.
Not only no, but hell no it won't go....
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:59, Ken Green <[1]kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
Mike,
I was responding to the comment about a loose fit and needing shims. I
understand your observation about a half mm width issue.
14mm is 0.55118110236 inches, 9/16 is 0.5625 inches so based on these
numbers, if I am taking you correctly, the width of the ring on the
driver's side of the rack is 0.0113 inches too narrow. I can't imaging
that being much of an issue?
Ken
__________________________________________________________________
From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Cc: De Tomaso List <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New $120 Pantera racks on
ebay from San Diego?
Ken,
The issue is the width of the opening on the casting for the rack
clamps in the drivers side. Pantera is 9/16 and Ferrari is 14mm.
Ferrari is about .65mm too narrow. Either need to open up the opening
on the rack or narrow the clamps. No issue on the passenger side.
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:33, Ken Green via DeTomaso <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:
> Just got the rack, ordered it yesterday.
> I measure the OD of the mounting surfaces, was 1.48". I measured
> a Pantera rack last night, 1.46". I'll try fitting it tonight if I
> have time. 0.02" over sized seems pretty close.
> Ken
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Julian Kift <[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Ken Green <[7]kenn_green at yahoo.com>; mark skwarek
> <[8]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; Bill Moore <[9]bill at incendium.com>; Boyd
Casey
> <[10]boyd411 at gmail.com>; De Tomaso List <[11]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New $120 Pantera racks
on
> ebay from San Diego?
> How many time have you heard a vendor say "it bolts right in".
> I purchased 2 of these racks when the discussion came up some time
> back, they are one in the same, so plan on a slight modification
to
> your mounting bracket as conveyed by Mike.
> Julian
> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:29:08 +0000
> To: [1][12]ehpantera at yahoo.com; [2][13]bill at incendium.com;
> [3][14]boyd411 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New $120 Pantera
racks
> on
> ebay from San Diego?
> From: [4][15]detomaso at poca.com
> CC: [5][16]detomaso at poca.com
> Mark,
> I guess I'm not sure Mike looked at the same rack?
> [1][6][17]http://www.ebay.com/itm/290640157982
> I talked to a guy at the seller who seemed to really know the
details,
> and he sa
> id it bolts in. Also searched the Internet and there are a lot of
> comments that
> the 308 and Pantera use the same rack. So I'm not sure what rack
Mike
> looked a
> t.
> Mine was shipped today and I'll do a test fit when I get it.
> Ken
> From: mark skwarek via DeTomaso <[7][18]detomaso at poca.com>
> To: Ken Green <[8][19]kenn_green at yahoo.com>; Bill Moore
> <[9][20]bill at incendium.com>; Boyd Cas
> ey <[10][21]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Detomaso List <[11][22]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 5:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New Pantera racks on
ebay
> from Sa
> n Diego?
> Ken,
> Here is a link to Mike's review of the steering rack.
>
[1][2][12][23]http://poca.com/pipermail/deto...February/224739.html
> Right now the price is around $119.00.
> Mark
> On Thursday, June 4, 2015 1:02 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
> <[13][24]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> Hi Bill, Boyd,
> It is this rack:
> [1][2][3][14][25]http://www.ebay.com/itm/290640157982
> I have search the web and talked to them and it appears it fits
a
> Pantera.
> Ken
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: Bill Moore <[3][15][26]bill at incendium.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <[4][16][27]boyd411 at gmail.com>; Ken Green
> <[5][17][28]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Detomaso List <[6][18][29]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 9:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New Pantera racks
on
> ebay
> from San Diego?
> Ya Ken, what are you buying ?
> Cheers,
> Bill Moore
> Incendium Supply
> Calgary
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Boyd Casey <[2][7][19][30]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: 2015-06-03 8:44 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: Ken Green <[3][8][20][31]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Detomaso List <[4][9][21][32]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone buy One of the New Pantera
racks
> on
> ebay
> from San Diego?
> Ken, did you post a link? because none cane through. I
personally
> would
> like to see.
> Boyd
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
> <[5][10][22][33]detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
>> Did anyone buy one of these? They won't confirm that they
> fit
> a
>> Pantera.
>> Ken
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> Boyd
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
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> A A Did anyone buy one of these?A They won't confirm
> that
> they
> fit a
> A A Pantera.
> A A Ken
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