[DeTomaso] Michelin TB5 or TB15 tires
Phone Richard Bosch
theemonkey at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 25 17:30:17 EDT 2015
Arjun,darn it,I was hoping you had run the TB15's as well. It would be great to get someone's view comparing all the variants on the same car.
One of my criteria I used for choosing the TB15 over the TB5 was the full width tread so I would have less potential police officer "issues".
I would like to try the TB5's. Maybe I will choose them when the 15's wear out.
Richard
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On Jul 24, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar <arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com> wrote:
> I went with the TB5R on Longstone's recommendation. It's a hard compound tire and purported to last 6-7K miles of hard use, though like Julian, they'll probably age out on my car before running out of tire life.
>
> I've attached two pics of the tires on the car - sadly the car is back on the lift as yet another weekend is about to come and go without it being driven.
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Richard,
>
> Thanks for the info, I like the TB15 for the fact they are a full tread
> pattern and not so worrisome about getting caught out in the rain.
> Others have reported reasonable mileage and I wholly expect that their
> shelf life will expire prior to mileage wear life on my GT40.
>
> Longstone Tyres shows limited sizes of the PB20 full wet on their
> website, so perhaps that tread pattern/compound has been re-issued now.
>
> Julian
>
> > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:02:51 -0700
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [Detomaso]Michelin TB5 or TB15 tires
> > From: detomaso at poca.com
> >
> > I have the TB15 tires on my flared car and love them.They are very
> soft.In fact they are softer than my Hoosier R25b compound slicks!
> >
> > Reviews from other web sites like Pelican parts(a Porsche site)Has
> been very positive for the TB15.Not much review for the TB5 though,good
> or bad.
> >
> > The TB15 is a light wet and dry tire,and the TB5 is a dry only
> tire.The TB5 replaces the older SB.No replacement or reissue yet of the
> PB tire.
> >
> > Here is a brief ad blurb from Michelin,
> >
> > Michelins legendary TB15 intermediate tarmac rally tyre has been
> reintroduced. Offering astounding levels of grip whilst also now being
> road legal!
> >
> > In the 70s and 80s the original range included the SB (slick for dry
> roads), TB (intermediate for dry and damp roads) and PB (rain for wet
> roads). The 2004 TB15 features the same design as the original and an
> equivalent tread compound providing even better grip.
> >
> > Cars fitted with these tyres in the 70s and 80s included: Porsche 911
> Gr4/GrB and RSR, Ferrari 308 Gr4, Ferrari BB512, Lancia Stratos Gr4,
> Alpine A310 Gr4/5, Alpine A110 Gr3/4, Renault 5 Turbo GrB, Renault 5
> Alpine Gr2, Opel Ascona 400 Gr4, Opel Manta 400 GrB, Opel Kadett GTE
> Gr1/2, Fiat 131 Abarth Gr4, Audi Quattro GrB, Toyota Supra GrA, Toyota
> Celica GrB, Ford Escort RS Gr1/2, BMW 2002 Gr1/2, VW Golf GTI Gr1/2,
> Peugeot 104
> > ZS Gr2, Simca R2 Gr2, Renault 8 Gordini Gr2 and Sunbeam Lotus Gr2.
> >
> > Arjun,have you used the the TB15,or only the TB5?I have not used my
> TB15's in any wet yet as i am in California which is experiencing a
> drought.Plus i try not to drive the car in the rain,but i have been
> caught in a storm before.
> >
> > I have not had any unusually fast wear,but i expect this tire to wear
> rapidly due to the soft compound,whereas the TB5 F & R are a harder
> compound and will have a longer lifespan,but cannot be used in any wet
> as they are a slick except for the middle portion which is treaded.
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
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Arjun,darn it,I was hoping you had run the TB15's as well. It would be
great to get someone's view comparing all the variants on the same car.
One of my criteria I used for choosing the TB15 over the TB5 was the
full width tread so I would have less potential police officer
"issues".
I would like to try the TB5's. Maybe I will choose them when the 15's
wear out.
Richard
Sent from my I potato
On Jul 24, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar
<[1]arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com> wrote:
I went with the TB5R on Longstone's recommendation. It's a hard
compound tire and purported to last 6-7K miles of hard use, though like
Julian, they'll probably age out on my car before running out of tire
life.
I've attached two pics of the tires on the car - sadly the car is back
on the lift as yet another weekend is about to come and go without it
being driven.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Julian Kift
<[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
Richard,
Thanks for the info, I like the TB15 for the fact they are a full
tread
pattern and not so worrisome about getting caught out in the
rain.
Others have reported reasonable mileage and I wholly expect that
their
shelf life will expire prior to mileage wear life on my GT40.
Longstone Tyres shows limited sizes of the PB20 full wet on their
website, so perhaps that tread pattern/compound has been
re-issued now.
Julian
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:02:51 -0700
> To: [3]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [Detomaso]Michelin TB5 or TB15 tires
> From: [4]detomaso at poca.com
>
> I have the TB15 tires on my flared car and love them.They are
very
soft.In fact they are softer than my Hoosier R25b compound
slicks!
>
> Reviews from other web sites like Pelican parts(a Porsche
site)Has
been very positive for the TB15.Not much review for the TB5
though,good
or bad.
>
> The TB15 is a light wet and dry tire,and the TB5 is a dry only
tire.The TB5 replaces the older SB.No replacement or reissue yet
of the
PB tire.
>
> Here is a brief ad blurb from Michelin,
>
> Michelins legendary TB15 intermediate tarmac rally tyre has
been
reintroduced. Offering astounding levels of grip whilst also now
being
road legal!
>
> In the 70s and 80s the original range included the SB (slick
for dry
roads), TB (intermediate for dry and damp roads) and PB (rain for
wet
roads). The 2004 TB15 features the same design as the original
and an
equivalent tread compound providing even better grip.
>
> Cars fitted with these tyres in the 70s and 80s included:
Porsche 911
Gr4/GrB and RSR, Ferrari 308 Gr4, Ferrari BB512, Lancia Stratos Gr4,
Alpine A310 Gr4/5, Alpine A110 Gr3/4, Renault 5 Turbo GrB, Renault 5
Alpine Gr2, Opel Ascona 400 Gr4, Opel Manta 400 GrB, Opel Kadett GTE
Gr1/2, Fiat 131 Abarth Gr4, Audi Quattro GrB, Toyota Supra GrA,
Toyota
Celica GrB, Ford Escort RS Gr1/2, BMW 2002 Gr1/2, VW Golf GTI Gr1/2,
Peugeot 104
> ZS Gr2, Simca R2 Gr2, Renault 8 Gordini Gr2 and Sunbeam Lotus Gr2.
>
> Arjun,have you used the the TB15,or only the TB5?I have not used
my
TB15's in any wet yet as i am in California which is experiencing a
drought.Plus i try not to drive the car in the rain,but i have been
caught in a storm before.
>
> I have not had any unusually fast wear,but i expect this tire to
wear
rapidly due to the soft compound,whereas the TB5 F & R are a harder
compound and will have a longer lifespan,but cannot be used in any
wet
as they are a slick except for the middle portion which is treaded.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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