[DeTomaso] Radiator Tube Insulation

[Ken Green]

If you look at John Taphorn's cooling update article, you can see where he takes the hot water for the heater from the radiator lines in the nose:
http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/Technical/Pantera_Cooling-JTaphorn.pdf
In general, it seems like John's approach is a worthwhile improvement, but maybe more work that you want to do.
Ken
       From: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
 To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> 
Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>; Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com> 
 Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 9:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator Tube Insulation
   
The heater tubes inside the car definitely can bring the heat but insulating the bottom of the car above the radiator tubes seems like a valid thought. Anybody ever done this and have a seat of the pants comparison?

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On Jul 24, 2015 9:35 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> On the L cars the heater tubes go through the center console (I believe on earlier cars they may have been in the rocker). The usual way to prevent heat from these  is to install heater shut off valves in the engine bay just prior to where they enter the cabin. 
>
> Julian 
>
> > To: detomaso at poca.com 
> > From: thedrol at pobox.com 
> > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:27:31 -0500 
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Radiator Tube Insulation 
> > 
> > So I'm getting a few items together before I get my car back on the 
> > road.  Way back when I used to drive my car, I noticed significant heat 
> > coming into the cabin from the radiator tubes that pass under the shifter. 
> > 
> > What is the best solution to keep this heat out? 
> > Should I put some aluminizied heat barrier between the tubes and the 
> > bottom of the car? 
> > Or does it go under the center console inside the car? 
> > 
> > Paul 
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>    On the L cars the heater tubes go through the center console (I believe 
>    on earlier cars they may have been in the rocker). The usual way to 
>    prevent heat from these  is to install heater shut off valves in the 
>    engine bay just prior to where they enter the cabin. 
>
>    Julian 
>
>    > To: detomaso at poca.com 
>    > From: thedrol at pobox.com 
>    > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:27:31 -0500 
>    > Subject: [DeTomaso] Radiator Tube Insulation 
>    > 
>    > So I'm getting a few items together before I get my car back on the 
>    > road. Way back when I used to drive my car, I noticed significant 
>    heat 
>    > coming into the cabin from the radiator tubes that pass under the 
>    shifter. 
>    > 
>    > What is the best solution to keep this heat out? 
>    > Should I put some aluminizied heat barrier between the tubes and the 
>    > bottom of the car? 
>    > Or does it go under the center console inside the car? 
>    > 
>    > Paul 
>    > #9270 
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   If you look at John Taphorn's cooling update article, you can see where
   he takes the hot water for the heater from the radiator lines in the
   nose:
   [1]http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/Technical/Pantera_Cooling-JTaphorn.
   pdf
   In general, it seems like John's approach is a worthwhile improvement,
   but maybe more work that you want to do.
   Ken
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
   To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>; Paul Timko <thedrol at pobox.com>
   Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 9:53 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator Tube Insulation
   The heater tubes inside the car definitely can bring the heat but
   insulating the bottom of the car above the radiator tubes seems like a
   valid thought. Anybody ever done this and have a seat of the pants
   comparison?
   Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
   On Jul 24, 2015 9:35 AM, Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > On the L cars the heater tubes go through the center console (I
   believe on earlier cars they may have been in the rocker). The usual
   way to prevent heat from these  is to install heater shut off valves in
   the engine bay just prior to where they enter the cabin.
   >
   > Julian
   >
   > > To: [3]detomaso at poca.com
   > > From: [4]thedrol at pobox.com
   > > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:27:31 -0500
   > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Radiator Tube Insulation
   > >
   > > So I'm getting a few items together before I get my car back on the
   > > road.  Way back when I used to drive my car, I noticed significant
   heat
   > > coming into the cabin from the radiator tubes that pass under the
   shifter.
   > >
   > > What is the best solution to keep this heat out?
   > > Should I put some aluminizied heat barrier between the tubes and
   the
   > > bottom of the car?
   > > Or does it go under the center console inside the car?
   > >
   > > Paul
   > > #9270
   > >
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   >    On the L cars the heater tubes go through the center console (I
   believe
   >    on earlier cars they may have been in the rocker). The usual way
   to
   >    prevent heat from these  is to install heater shut off valves in
   the
   >    engine bay just prior to where they enter the cabin.
   >
   >    Julian
   >
   >    > To: [7]detomaso at poca.com
   >    > From: [8]thedrol at pobox.com
   >    > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:27:31 -0500
   >    > Subject: [DeTomaso] Radiator Tube Insulation
   >    >
   >    > So I'm getting a few items together before I get my car back on
   the
   >    > road. Way back when I used to drive my car, I noticed
   significant
   >    heat
   >    > coming into the cabin from the radiator tubes that pass under
   the
   >    shifter.
   >    >
   >    > What is the best solution to keep this heat out?
   >    > Should I put some aluminizied heat barrier between the tubes and
   the
   >    > bottom of the car?
   >    > Or does it go under the center console inside the car?
   >    >
   >    > Paul
   >    > #9270
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References

   1. http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/Technical/Pantera_Cooling-JTaphorn.pdf
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