[DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
Julian Kift
julian_kift at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 23 18:08:56 EDT 2015
Bjoern,
Make sure you compare the technical specs, the brands all seem to differ slightly. What lifting height clearance do you want? The tread plates vary in width and their distance apart, so what wheelbase vehicle do you want to park, plus drive through width differ as well. All considerations.
When I purchased the 2 Autolift's for my trailer I was able to negotiate on the delivery price too, it may come down to who of the sellers is willing to negotiate a little for 2 units.
Julian
> From: bflesland at gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:42:26 +0200
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
> To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
> CC: arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com; grayjim at cox.net; robpink2012 at gmail.com; kenn_green at yahoo.com; whatcop at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com; michael at michaelshortt.com; demongusta at me.com
>
> Sounds good Julian!
> I am looking at the Direct Lift Pro Park 8S.
> It's ALI Certified and is advertised online for $2195.
> Might be a good choice.
> It says also that it's "Americas #1 Enthusiast Car Lift" with over
> 100,000 units sold.
>
> Then you have the ATLAS Garage Pro 8000. It's not certified but seems
> also good to me!
> Any opinions here?
> It's listed for $1995
>
> http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-Garage-Pro-8-000
> http://www.atlasautoequipment.com/products/four-post-lift/garage-pro-8000
>
> Cheers Bjoern
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > My Direct Lift has an active locking system, each corner lock and the lever
> > are all sprung, so you need to constantly hold the lever down whilst
> > lowering the lift. You also need to raise the lift very slightly to allow
> > the locks to unlock and clear, prior to lowering.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:54:46 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
> > From: arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com
> > To: bflesland at gmail.com
> > CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; grayjim at cox.net; robpink2012 at gmail.com;
> > kenn_green at yahoo.com; whatcop at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >
> >
> > Both locks are equally effective, but air locks have an additional layer of
> > passive safety built in: mechanical locks require you to flip a lever before
> > you can lower the lift and the lift can be left unlocked, whereas air locks
> > require you to constantly hold down the air release while lowering the lift
> > - the default state is locked all the time.
> >
> > If you are not a forgetful person and will always remember to put the lock
> > on when a car is up on the lift, then go mechanical and save the money.
> >
> > I have kids who do on occasion enter the garage, so I went air lock because
> > of the passive safety system.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:42 AM, bflesland at gmail.com <bflesland at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > What's the advantage and disadvantage with a mechanical lock vs the other
> > lifts?
> > Is it as safe as any other lift?
> > Cheers Bjoern
> >
> >
> >
> > Den Jul 23, 2015 kl. 16:07 skrev Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar
> > <arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com>:
> >
> > If you're looking for a cheaper 4 post with a mechanical lock, you could try
> > the Atlas lifts:
> >
> > http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-Garage-Pro-8-000
> >
> > It comes with the castors Julian and Jim mentioned earlier.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > As Jim says my wheels (casters really) are removable and work under the
> > weight of the lift, so easy to place and then get the lift in the exact
> > position you want it or occasionally I use them to move the lift to the
> > other side of the garage if access is required etc.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > > From: grayjim at cox.net
> > > To: robpink2012 at gmail.com; bflesland at gmail.com
> > > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:39:24 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
> > > CC: kenn_green at yahoo.com; whatcop at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com
> > >
> > > The wheels are removable. You put the lift up, a bit attach the
> > wheels and
> > > then let it down, where upon the lift is now movable. At least that's
> > the
> > > way mine works.
> > >
> > > Jim Gray
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert Pink
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:14 PM
> > > To: bflesland at gmail.com
> > > Cc: chris bupp ; Ken Green ; detomaso at poca.com
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
> > >
> > > So what about the good 4 post lifts that are on wheels?
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, bflesland at gmail.com
> > <bflesland at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks to all of you for chiming in with great info.
> > > > Arjun, can you perhaps suggest a lift with mechanical locks?
> > > > Being a novice with auto lifts, I need to collect some basic info
> > > > before a purchase.
> > > > Looking to buy 2 lifts, so not that keen to cough up $6k total...
> > > > Perhaps of importance here is that they will be used for
> > > > storage/stacking only, so I don't need them to be of "workshop"
> > quality
> > > > as they will not be in daily operation.
> > > > I found this info/guide which is interesting:
> > > > [1]http://www.bendpak.com/blog/top-10-guide-to-car-lifts/
> > > > And this study/compare:
> > > >
> > [2]http://www.bendpak.com/a-study-in-lift-design/Direct-Lift-vs-BendPak
> > > > /
> > > > What do you guys know about the Direct Lift?
> > > > It might be a good option as Julian suggests!
> > > > [3]http://www.directlift.com
> > > > [4]http://www.directlift.com/Four-Post-Lifts-C9.aspx
> > > > Direct Lift are ALI/ETL approved according to their website. Would
> > you
> > > > say that's mandatory?
> > > > [5]http://www.directlift.com/Certification.aspx
> > > > Cheers Bjoern
> > > > Den Jul 20, 2015 kl. 22:05 skrev Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar
> > > > <[6]arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com <javascript:;>>:
> > > >
> > > > I have 2 Bendpak HD9 lifts for over 5 years and couldn't be
> > happier.
> > > > While the Backyard Buddy has its fans, it is not ALI certified
> > (whereas
> > > > the Bendpak is - if you have an accident and your lift is not ALI
> > > > certified, you're going to have issues with your insurance claim)
> > and
> > > > their foot print is bigger than other lifts so you cannot have two
> > > > lifts installed side by side in a regular 20' wide garage.
> > > > Only downside to the Bendpaks is that you will need access to an
> > air
> > > > compressor to operate the air locks on the lift. If you don't have
> > an
> > > > air compressor, you may want to look into a lift with mechanical
> > locks.
> > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Michael Shortt
> > > > <[7]michaelsavga at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think that you should spend a little more and get a Backyard
> > > > buddy.
> > > > Michael Shortt
> > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:54 PM, [1][8]bflesland at gmail.com
> > > > <javascript:;>
> > > > <[2][9]bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > > I am looking for a 4 post car lift so I can park and store 2
> > > > cars.
> > > > One car on the lift and one parked under the other car.
> > > > Any recommendations?
> > > > Realize there are several on eBay around $1600-1700.
> > > > Cheers Bjoern
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> > > >
> > > > 1. http://www.bendpak.com/blog/top-10-guide-to-car-lifts/
> > > > 2.
> > > >
> > http://www.bendpak.com/a-study-in-lift-design/Direct-Lift-vs-BendPak/
> > > > 3. http://www.directlift.com/
> > > > 4. http://www.directlift.com/Four-Post-Lifts-C9.aspx
> > > > 5. http://www.directlift.com/Certification.aspx
> > > > 6. mailto:arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > 7. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > 8. mailto:bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > 9. mailto:bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > 10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
> > > > 11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > > > 12. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > > > 13. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com <javascript:;>
> > > > 14. tel:912-232-9390
> >
> > > > 15. mailto:bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > 16. mailto:bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > 17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
> > > > 18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > > > 19. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
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> > > > 22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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Bjoern,
Make sure you compare the technical specs, the brands all seem to
differ slightly. What lifting height clearance do you want? The tread
plates vary in width and their distance apart, so what wheelbase
vehicle do you want to park, plus drive through width differ as well.
All considerations.
When I purchased the 2 Autolift's for my trailer I was able to
negotiate on the delivery price too, it may come down to who of the
sellers is willing to negotiate a little for 2 units.
Julian
> From: bflesland at gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:42:26 +0200
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
> To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
> CC: arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com; grayjim at cox.net;
robpink2012 at gmail.com; kenn_green at yahoo.com; whatcop at msn.com;
detomaso at poca.com; michael at michaelshortt.com; demongusta at me.com
>
> Sounds good Julian!
> I am looking at the Direct Lift Pro Park 8S.
> It's ALI Certified and is advertised online for $2195.
> Might be a good choice.
> It says also that it's "Americas #1 Enthusiast Car Lift" with over
> 100,000 units sold.
>
> Then you have the ATLAS Garage Pro 8000. It's not certified but seems
> also good to me!
> Any opinions here?
> It's listed for $1995
>
> http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-Garage-Pro-8-000
>
http://www.atlasautoequipment.com/products/four-post-lift/garage-pro-80
00
>
> Cheers Bjoern
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Julian Kift
<julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > My Direct Lift has an active locking system, each corner lock and
the lever
> > are all sprung, so you need to constantly hold the lever down
whilst
> > lowering the lift. You also need to raise the lift very slightly to
allow
> > the locks to unlock and clear, prior to lowering.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:54:46 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
> > From: arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com
> > To: bflesland at gmail.com
> > CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; grayjim at cox.net;
robpink2012 at gmail.com;
> > kenn_green at yahoo.com; whatcop at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >
> >
> > Both locks are equally effective, but air locks have an additional
layer of
> > passive safety built in: mechanical locks require you to flip a
lever before
> > you can lower the lift and the lift can be left unlocked, whereas
air locks
> > require you to constantly hold down the air release while lowering
the lift
> > - the default state is locked all the time.
> >
> > If you are not a forgetful person and will always remember to put
the lock
> > on when a car is up on the lift, then go mechanical and save the
money.
> >
> > I have kids who do on occasion enter the garage, so I went air lock
because
> > of the passive safety system.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:42 AM, bflesland at gmail.com
<bflesland at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > What's the advantage and disadvantage with a mechanical lock vs the
other
> > lifts?
> > Is it as safe as any other lift?
> > Cheers Bjoern
> >
> >
> >
> > Den Jul 23, 2015 kl. 16:07 skrev Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar
> > <arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com>:
> >
> > If you're looking for a cheaper 4 post with a mechanical lock, you
could try
> > the Atlas lifts:
> >
> > http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-Garage-Pro-8-000
> >
> > It comes with the castors Julian and Jim mentioned earlier.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Julian Kift
<julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > As Jim says my wheels (casters really) are removable and work under
the
> > weight of the lift, so easy to place and then get the lift in the
exact
> > position you want it or occasionally I use them to move the lift to
the
> > other side of the garage if access is required etc.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > > From: grayjim at cox.net
> > > To: robpink2012 at gmail.com; bflesland at gmail.com
> > > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:39:24 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
> > > CC: kenn_green at yahoo.com; whatcop at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com
> > >
> > > The wheels are removable. You put the lift up, a bit attach the
> > wheels and
> > > then let it down, where upon the lift is now movable. At least
that's
> > the
> > > way mine works.
> > >
> > > Jim Gray
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert Pink
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:14 PM
> > > To: bflesland at gmail.com
> > > Cc: chris bupp ; Ken Green ; detomaso at poca.com
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
> > >
> > > So what about the good 4 post lifts that are on wheels?
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, bflesland at gmail.com
> > <bflesland at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks to all of you for chiming in with great info.
> > > > Arjun, can you perhaps suggest a lift with mechanical locks?
> > > > Being a novice with auto lifts, I need to collect some basic
info
> > > > before a purchase.
> > > > Looking to buy 2 lifts, so not that keen to cough up $6k
total...
> > > > Perhaps of importance here is that they will be used for
> > > > storage/stacking only, so I don't need them to be of "workshop"
> > quality
> > > > as they will not be in daily operation.
> > > > I found this info/guide which is interesting:
> > > > [1]http://www.bendpak.com/blog/top-10-guide-to-car-lifts/
> > > > And this study/compare:
> > > >
> >
[2]http://www.bendpak.com/a-study-in-lift-design/Direct-Lift-vs-BendPak
> > > > /
> > > > What do you guys know about the Direct Lift?
> > > > It might be a good option as Julian suggests!
> > > > [3]http://www.directlift.com
> > > > [4]http://www.directlift.com/Four-Post-Lifts-C9.aspx
> > > > Direct Lift are ALI/ETL approved according to their website.
Would
> > you
> > > > say that's mandatory?
> > > > [5]http://www.directlift.com/Certification.aspx
> > > > Cheers Bjoern
> > > > Den Jul 20, 2015 kl. 22:05 skrev Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar
> > > > <[6]arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com <javascript:;>>:
> > > >
> > > > I have 2 Bendpak HD9 lifts for over 5 years and couldn't be
> > happier.
> > > > While the Backyard Buddy has its fans, it is not ALI certified
> > (whereas
> > > > the Bendpak is - if you have an accident and your lift is not
ALI
> > > > certified, you're going to have issues with your insurance
claim)
> > and
> > > > their foot print is bigger than other lifts so you cannot have
two
> > > > lifts installed side by side in a regular 20' wide garage.
> > > > Only downside to the Bendpaks is that you will need access to
an
> > air
> > > > compressor to operate the air locks on the lift. If you don't
have
> > an
> > > > air compressor, you may want to look into a lift with
mechanical
> > locks.
> > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Michael Shortt
> > > > <[7]michaelsavga at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think that you should spend a little more and get a Backyard
> > > > buddy.
> > > > Michael Shortt
> > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:54 PM, [1][8]bflesland at gmail.com
> > > > <javascript:;>
> > > > <[2][9]bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > > I am looking for a 4 post car lift so I can park and store 2
> > > > cars.
> > > > One car on the lift and one parked under the other car.
> > > > Any recommendations?
> > > > Realize there are several on eBay around $1600-1700.
> > > > Cheers Bjoern
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > Michael L. Shortt
> > > > Savannah, Georgia
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> > > > [6][13]michael at michaelshortt.com <javascript:;>
> > > > [14]912-232-9390
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> > > > 2. mailto:[16]bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>
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> > > >
> > > > 1. http://www.bendpak.com/blog/top-10-guide-to-car-lifts/
> > > > 2.
> > > >
> >
http://www.bendpak.com/a-study-in-lift-design/Direct-Lift-vs-BendPak/
> > > > 3. http://www.directlift.com/
> > > > 4. http://www.directlift.com/Four-Post-Lifts-C9.aspx
> > > > 5. http://www.directlift.com/Certification.aspx
> > > > 6. mailto:arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > 7. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > 8. mailto:bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>
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> > > > 12. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
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