[DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 23 17:26:38 EDT 2015


My Direct Lift has an active locking system, each corner lock and the lever are all sprung, so you need to constantly hold the lever down whilst lowering the lift. You also need to raise the lift very slightly to allow the locks to unlock and clear, prior to lowering.
 
Julian
 
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:54:46 -0400
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
From: arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com
To: bflesland at gmail.com
CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; grayjim at cox.net; robpink2012 at gmail.com; kenn_green at yahoo.com; whatcop at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com

Both locks are equally effective, but air locks have an additional layer of passive safety built in: mechanical locks require you to flip a lever before you can lower the lift and the lift can be left unlocked, whereas air locks require you to constantly hold down the air release while lowering the lift - the default state is locked all the time.
If you are not a forgetful person and will always remember to put the lock on when a car is up on the lift, then go mechanical and save the money.
I have kids who do on occasion enter the garage, so I went air lock because of the passive safety system.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:42 AM, bflesland at gmail.com <bflesland at gmail.com> wrote:
What's the advantage and disadvantage with a mechanical lock vs the other lifts?Is it as safe as any other lift?Cheers Bjoern



Den Jul 23, 2015 kl. 16:07 skrev Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar <arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com>:

If you're looking for a cheaper 4 post with a mechanical lock, you could try the Atlas lifts:
http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-Garage-Pro-8-000

It comes with the castors Julian and Jim mentioned earlier.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
   As Jim says my wheels (casters really) are removable and work under the

   weight of the lift, so easy to place and then get the lift in the exact

   position you want it or occasionally I use them to move the lift to the

   other side of the garage if access is required etc.



   Julian



   > From: grayjim at cox.net

   > To: robpink2012 at gmail.com; bflesland at gmail.com

   > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:39:24 -0500

   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts

   > CC: kenn_green at yahoo.com; whatcop at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com

   >

   > The wheels are removable. You put the lift up, a bit attach the

   wheels and

   > then let it down, where upon the lift is now movable. At least that's

   the

   > way mine works.

   >

   > Jim Gray

   >

   > -----Original Message-----

   > From: Robert Pink

   > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:14 PM

   > To: bflesland at gmail.com

   > Cc: chris bupp ; Ken Green ; detomaso at poca.com

   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts

   >

   > So what about the good 4 post lifts that are on wheels?

   >

   > On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, bflesland at gmail.com

   <bflesland at gmail.com>

   > wrote:

   >

   > > Thanks to all of you for chiming in with great info.

   > > Arjun, can you perhaps suggest a lift with mechanical locks?

   > > Being a novice with auto lifts, I need to collect some basic info

   > > before a purchase.

   > > Looking to buy 2 lifts, so not that keen to cough up $6k total...

   > > Perhaps of importance here is that they will be used for

   > > storage/stacking only, so I don't need them to be of "workshop"

   quality

   > > as they will not be in daily operation.

   > > I found this info/guide which is interesting:

   > > [1]http://www.bendpak.com/blog/top-10-guide-to-car-lifts/

   > > And this study/compare:

   > >

   [2]http://www.bendpak.com/a-study-in-lift-design/Direct-Lift-vs-BendPak

   > > /

   > > What do you guys know about the Direct Lift?

   > > It might be a good option as Julian suggests!

   > > [3]http://www.directlift.com

   > > [4]http://www.directlift.com/Four-Post-Lifts-C9.aspx

   > > Direct Lift are ALI/ETL approved according to their website. Would

   you

   > > say that's mandatory?

   > > [5]http://www.directlift.com/Certification.aspx

   > > Cheers Bjoern

   > > Den Jul 20, 2015 kl. 22:05 skrev Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar

   > > <[6]arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com <javascript:;>>:

   > >

   > > I have 2 Bendpak HD9 lifts for over 5 years and couldn't be

   happier.

   > > While the Backyard Buddy has its fans, it is not ALI certified

   (whereas

   > > the Bendpak is - if you have an accident and your lift is not ALI

   > > certified, you're going to have issues with your insurance claim)

   and

   > > their foot print is bigger than other lifts so you cannot have two

   > > lifts installed side by side in a regular 20' wide garage.

   > > Only downside to the Bendpaks is that you will need access to an

   air

   > > compressor to operate the air locks on the lift. If you don't have

   an

   > > air compressor, you may want to look into a lift with mechanical

   locks.

   > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Michael Shortt

   > > <[7]michaelsavga at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:

   > >

   > > I think that you should spend a little more and get a Backyard

   > > buddy.

   > > Michael Shortt

   > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:54 PM, [1][8]bflesland at gmail.com

   > > <javascript:;>

   > > <[2][9]bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:

   > > Hi guys,

   > > I am looking for a 4 post car lift so I can park and store 2

   > > cars.

   > > One car on the lift and one parked under the other car.

   > > Any recommendations?

   > > Realize there are several on eBay around $1600-1700.

   > > Cheers Bjoern

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   > > 3. mailto:[17]DeTomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>

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   > > 1. http://www.bendpak.com/blog/top-10-guide-to-car-lifts/

   > > 2.

   > >

   http://www.bendpak.com/a-study-in-lift-design/Direct-Lift-vs-BendPak/

   > > 3. http://www.directlift.com/

   > > 4. http://www.directlift.com/Four-Post-Lifts-C9.aspx

   > > 5. http://www.directlift.com/Certification.aspx

   > > 6. mailto:arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com <javascript:;>

   > > 7. mailto:michaelsavga at gmail.com <javascript:;>

   > > 8. mailto:bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>

   > > 9. mailto:bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>

   > > 10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>

   > > 11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com

   > > 12. http://www.michaelshortt.com/

   > > 13. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com <javascript:;>

   > > 14. tel:912-232-9390

   > > 15. mailto:bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>

   > > 16. mailto:bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>

   > > 17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>

   > > 18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com

   > > 19. http://www.michaelshortt.com/

   > > 20. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com <javascript:;>

   > > 21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>

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   My Direct Lift has an active locking system, each corner lock and the
   lever are all sprung, so you need to constantly hold the lever down
   whilst lowering the lift. You also need to raise the lift very slightly
   to allow the locks to unlock and clear, prior to lowering.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:54:46 -0400
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
   From: arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com
   To: bflesland at gmail.com
   CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; grayjim at cox.net; robpink2012 at gmail.com;
   kenn_green at yahoo.com; whatcop at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com
   Both locks are equally effective, but air locks have an additional
   layer of passive safety built in: mechanical locks require you to flip
   a lever before you can lower the lift and the lift can be left
   unlocked, whereas air locks require you to constantly hold down the air
   release while lowering the lift - the default state is locked all the
   time.
   If you are not a forgetful person and will always remember to put the
   lock on when a car is up on the lift, then go mechanical and save the
   money.
   I have kids who do on occasion enter the garage, so I went air lock
   because of the passive safety system.
   On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:42 AM, [1]bflesland at gmail.com
   <[2]bflesland at gmail.com> wrote:

   What's the advantage and disadvantage with a mechanical lock vs the
   other lifts?
   Is it as safe as any other lift?
   Cheers Bjoern
   Den Jul 23, 2015 kl. 16:07 skrev Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar
   <[3]arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com>:

   If you're looking for a cheaper 4 post with a mechanical lock, you
   could try the Atlas lifts:
   [4]http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-Garage-Pro-8-000
   It comes with the castors Julian and Jim mentioned earlier.
   On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Julian Kift
   <[5]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

        As Jim says my wheels (casters really) are removable and work
     under the
        weight of the lift, so easy to place and then get the lift in the
     exact
        position you want it or occasionally I use them to move the lift
     to the
        other side of the garage if access is required etc.
        Julian
        > From: [6]grayjim at cox.net
        > To: [7]robpink2012 at gmail.com; [8]bflesland at gmail.com
        > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 21:39:24 -0500
        > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
        > CC: [9]kenn_green at yahoo.com; [10]whatcop at msn.com;
     [11]detomaso at poca.com
        >
        > The wheels are removable. You put the lift up, a bit attach the
        wheels and
        > then let it down, where upon the lift is now movable. At least
     that's
        the
        > way mine works.
        >
        > Jim Gray
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: Robert Pink
        > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:14 PM
        > To: [12]bflesland at gmail.com
        > Cc: chris bupp ; Ken Green ; [13]detomaso at poca.com
        > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: 4 post car lifts
        >
        > So what about the good 4 post lifts that are on wheels?
        >
        > On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, [14]bflesland at gmail.com
        <[15]bflesland at gmail.com>
        > wrote:
        >
        > > Thanks to all of you for chiming in with great info.
        > > Arjun, can you perhaps suggest a lift with mechanical locks?
        > > Being a novice with auto lifts, I need to collect some basic
     info
        > > before a purchase.
        > > Looking to buy 2 lifts, so not that keen to cough up $6k
     total...
        > > Perhaps of importance here is that they will be used for
        > > storage/stacking only, so I don't need them to be of
     "workshop"
        quality
        > > as they will not be in daily operation.
        > > I found this info/guide which is interesting:
        > > [1][16]http://www.bendpak.com/blog/top-10-guide-to-car-lifts/
        > > And this study/compare:
        > >

     [2][17]http://www.bendpak.com/a-study-in-lift-design/Direct-Lift-vs-
     BendPak
        > > /
        > > What do you guys know about the Direct Lift?
        > > It might be a good option as Julian suggests!
        > > [3][18]http://www.directlift.com
        > > [4][19]http://www.directlift.com/Four-Post-Lifts-C9.aspx
        > > Direct Lift are ALI/ETL approved according to their website.
     Would
        you
        > > say that's mandatory?
        > > [5][20]http://www.directlift.com/Certification.aspx
        > > Cheers Bjoern
        > > Den Jul 20, 2015 kl. 22:05 skrev Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar
        > > <[6][21]arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com <javascript:;>>:
        > >
        > > I have 2 Bendpak HD9 lifts for over 5 years and couldn't be
        happier.
        > > While the Backyard Buddy has its fans, it is not ALI
     certified
        (whereas
        > > the Bendpak is - if you have an accident and your lift is not
     ALI
        > > certified, you're going to have issues with your insurance
     claim)
        and
        > > their foot print is bigger than other lifts so you cannot
     have two
        > > lifts installed side by side in a regular 20' wide garage.
        > > Only downside to the Bendpaks is that you will need access to
     an
        air
        > > compressor to operate the air locks on the lift. If you don't
     have
        an
        > > air compressor, you may want to look into a lift with
     mechanical
        locks.
        > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Michael Shortt
        > > <[7][22]michaelsavga at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
        > >
        > > I think that you should spend a little more and get a
     Backyard
        > > buddy.
        > > Michael Shortt
        > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:54 PM,
     [1][8][23]bflesland at gmail.com
        > > <javascript:;>
        > > <[2][9][24]bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
        > > Hi guys,
        > > I am looking for a 4 post car lift so I can park and store 2
        > > cars.
        > > One car on the lift and one parked under the other car.
        > > Any recommendations?
        > > Realize there are several on eBay around $1600-1700.
        > > Cheers Bjoern
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        > > 2. mailto:[16][30]bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>
        > > 3. mailto:[17][31]DeTomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
        > > 4. [18][32]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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        > > References
        > >
        > > 1. [37]http://www.bendpak.com/blog/top-10-guide-to-car-lifts/
        > > 2.
        > >

     [38]http://www.bendpak.com/a-study-in-lift-design/Direct-Lift-vs-Ben
     dPak/
        > > 3. [39]http://www.directlift.com/
        > > 4. [40]http://www.directlift.com/Four-Post-Lifts-C9.aspx
        > > 5. [41]http://www.directlift.com/Certification.aspx
        > > 6. mailto:[42]arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com <javascript:;>
        > > 7. mailto:[43]michaelsavga at gmail.com <javascript:;>
        > > 8. mailto:[44]bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>
        > > 9. mailto:[45]bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>
        > > 10. mailto:[46]DeTomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
        > > 11. [47]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
        > > 12. [48]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
        > > 13. mailto:[49]michael at michaelshortt.com <javascript:;>
        > > 14. tel:912-232-9390
        > > 15. mailto:[50]bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>
        > > 16. mailto:[51]bflesland at gmail.com <javascript:;>
        > > 17. mailto:[52]DeTomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
        > > 18. [53]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
        > > 19. [54]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
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        > > 21. mailto:[56]DeTomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
        > > 22. [57]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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