[DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com
Sun Jul 19 00:24:11 EDT 2015
Picture didn’t go through last time. Maybe this is small enough to work.
Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com
On Jul 18, 2015, at 12:26 PM, John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net> wrote:
> I remember that one. Mad Dawg's Phoenix was on the fictitious cover.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
> On Jul 18, 2015 9:14 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>> What about the last never published mystery issue of the PI quarterly. Since it seems to have been lost to oblivion, maybe they will let you publish spread through several issues of Profiles what they promised to publish in that issue?
>> Ken
>> From: Michael Haney <paso750 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Detomaso at Poca. Com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
>>
>> Thank you very nuch, Chuck.
>> It is certainly true that I don't have a year's worth of cars lined
>> up to be featured in Profiles (I actually have 1.5 right now). Chuck hit the
>> nail on the head - I have deadlines and I really don't want to disappoint
>> the membership with a late or nonexistent magazine. I also have a full-time
>> job and a wife (I think I have a life, too).
>> Tony's car certainly started out as an average Pantera and it is
>> still no less a Pantera than any other modified one (just look at featured
>> cars in past issues). How many wings and flares does a Pantera need? As many
>> as its owner decides it needs.
>> A thoughtful discussion usually ends up with positive results - how
>> about submitting the story of you and your car?
>>
>> Mike Haney
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Charles
>> Engles
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:11 PM
>> To: 'Mikael'; detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
>>
>> Dear Mikael,
>>
>>
>> Your point is well taken. Another consideration is that of the
>> realities of turning out a Quarterly Profiles account for what you see.
>>
>> I was the editor of the Dallas Pantera Club newsletter. I
>> completely understand the pressure to make the deadline and the paucity of
>> contributions from members. In the case of the new editor, I suspect that
>> rather than promoting Mr. Ortiz's custom Pantera philosophy, Mr. Haney was
>> happy to have the written and photographic material to present a Pantera of
>> the Quarter. I don't know, but I suspect that he does not have a folder of
>> Panteras of the Quarter to fill the next five issues and I suspect that he
>> would gladly entertain your Pantera (as a philosophical balance to the Black
>> Pantera) or anyone else who is able to cooperate with the general
>> requirements of the Quarterly.
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Mikael
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:23 PM
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
>>
>> If you guys haven't received your copy of Profiles yet, maybe look in your
>> dustbin again. The envelope with what you thought was a GT40 magazine sent
>> to you by mistake was in fact the Profiles, with the black Pantera with GT40
>> front and rear etc. that Profiles had the IMO poor taste to put on the cover
>> and rear and centerfold.
>>
>>
>>
>> I of course quickly turned to the build-text, because I wanted to try to
>> understand WHY? Was there a Pantera with smashed front and rear and a GT40
>> parked on railway tracks so only front and rear was saved? No, the author
>> states "for some crazy reason". Indeed.
>>
>>
>>
>> I saw this car at POCA in Arizona a few years ago, where it was parked in
>> the "look-at-me" spot right in front of the doors, so you had to walk around
>> it. After refusing the first couple of times, I did take the time to look it
>> over. And the craftsmanship was excellent including mirror like pint.
>> Sometimes when you see "menacingly modified" (quote from Profiles) cars like
>> this, but well done, you can state "I don't like it, but I'm impressed with
>> the craftsmanship". Well not here, not this one. Even though the
>> craftsmanship is good, you do not build your car to look like another brand.
>> As simple as that.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope the skillful builder gets the GT40 he really wants and leaves our
>> Panteras alone. And I hope Profiles editor has better judgment going
>> forward. In the same envelope was the Membership Renewal Notice. Brave!
>> Whether I renew or not depends on the reaction to this mail. Am I alone
>> here?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mikael
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Mike,
>> What about the last never published mystery issue of the PI quarterly.
>> Since it seems to have been lost to oblivion, maybe they will let you
>> publish spread through several issues of Profiles what they promised to
>> publish in that issue?
>> Ken
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: Michael Haney <paso750 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Detomaso at Poca. Com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
>> Thank you very nuch, Chuck.
>> It is certainly true that I don't have a year's worth of cars lined
>> up to be featured in Profiles (I actually have 1.5 right now). Chuck
>> hit the
>> nail on the head - I have deadlines and I really don't want to
>> disappoint
>> the membership with a late or nonexistent magazine. I also have a
>> full-time
>> job and a wife (I think I have a life, too).
>> Tony's car certainly started out as an average Pantera and it is
>> still no less a Pantera than any other modified one (just look at
>> featured
>> cars in past issues). How many wings and flares does a Pantera need? As
>> many
>> as its owner decides it needs.
>> A thoughtful discussion usually ends up with positive results - how
>> about submitting the story of you and your car?
>> Mike Haney
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>> Charles
>> Engles
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:11 PM
>> To: 'Mikael'; [2]detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
>> Dear Mikael,
>> Your point is well taken. Another consideration is that of
>> the
>> realities of turning out a Quarterly Profiles account for what you see.
>> I was the editor of the Dallas Pantera Club newsletter. I
>> completely understand the pressure to make the deadline and the paucity
>> of
>> contributions from members. In the case of the new editor, I suspect
>> that
>> rather than promoting Mr. Ortiz's custom Pantera philosophy, Mr. Haney
>> was
>> happy to have the written and photographic material to present a
>> Pantera of
>> the Quarter. I don't know, but I suspect that he does not have a
>> folder of
>> Panteras of the Quarter to fill the next five issues and I suspect that
>> he
>> would gladly entertain your Pantera (as a philosophical balance to the
>> Black
>> Pantera) or anyone else who is able to cooperate with the general
>> requirements of the Quarterly.
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>> Mikael
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:23 PM
>> To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
>> If you guys haven't received your copy of Profiles yet, maybe look in
>> your
>> dustbin again. The envelope with what you thought was a GT40 magazine
>> sent
>> to you by mistake was in fact the Profiles, with the black Pantera with
>> GT40
>> front and rear etc. that Profiles had the IMO poor taste to put on the
>> cover
>> and rear and centerfold.
>> I of course quickly turned to the build-text, because I wanted to try
>> to
>> understand WHY? Was there a Pantera with smashed front and rear and a
>> GT40
>> parked on railway tracks so only front and rear was saved? No, the
>> author
>> states "for some crazy reason". Indeed.
>> I saw this car at POCA in Arizona a few years ago, where it was parked
>> in
>> the "look-at-me" spot right in front of the doors, so you had to walk
>> around
>> it. After refusing the first couple of times, I did take the time to
>> look it
>> over. And the craftsmanship was excellent including mirror like pint.
>> Sometimes when you see "menacingly modified" (quote from Profiles) cars
>> like
>> this, but well done, you can state "I don't like it, but I'm impressed
>> with
>> the craftsmanship". Well not here, not this one. Even though the
>> craftsmanship is good, you do not build your car to look like another
>> brand.
>> As simple as that.
>> I hope the skillful builder gets the GT40 he really wants and leaves
>> our
>> Panteras alone. And I hope Profiles editor has better judgment going
>> forward. In the same envelope was the Membership Renewal Notice. Brave!
>> Whether I renew or not depends on the reaction to this mail. Am I alone
>> here?
>> Mikael
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Picture didn't go through last time. Maybe this is small enough to
work.
Mark Charlton
[1]pantera01826 at rogers.com
[cid:6FDF275A-C796-494A-8783-809E8AD3865B at hitronhub.home]
On Jul 18, 2015, at 12:26 PM, John McKee <[2]johnmckee at cox.net> wrote:
I remember that one. Mad Dawg's Phoenix was on the fictitious cover.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
On Jul 18, 2015 9:14 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
<[3]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
Mike,
What about the last never published mystery issue of the PI
quarterly. Since it seems to have been lost to oblivion, maybe they
will let you publish spread through several issues of Profiles what
they promised to publish in that issue?
Ken
From: Michael Haney <[4]paso750 at gmail.com>
To: "Detomaso at Poca. Com" <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
Thank you very nuch, Chuck.
It is certainly true that I don't have a year's worth of cars
lined
up to be featured in Profiles (I actually have 1.5 right now). Chuck
hit the
nail on the head - I have deadlines and I really don't want to
disappoint
the membership with a late or nonexistent magazine. I also have a
full-time
job and a wife (I think I have a life, too).
Tony's car certainly started out as an average Pantera and it is
still no less a Pantera than any other modified one (just look at
featured
cars in past issues). How many wings and flares does a Pantera need?
As many
as its owner decides it needs.
A thoughtful discussion usually ends up with positive results -
how
about submitting the story of you and your car?
Mike Haney
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Charles
Engles
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:11 PM
To: 'Mikael'; [7]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
Dear Mikael,
Your point is well taken. Another consideration is that
of the
realities of turning out a Quarterly Profiles account for what you
see.
I was the editor of the Dallas Pantera Club newsletter.
I
completely understand the pressure to make the deadline and the
paucity of
contributions from members. In the case of the new editor, I
suspect that
rather than promoting Mr. Ortiz's custom Pantera philosophy, Mr.
Haney was
happy to have the written and photographic material to present a
Pantera of
the Quarter. I don't know, but I suspect that he does not have a
folder of
Panteras of the Quarter to fill the next five issues and I suspect
that he
would gladly entertain your Pantera (as a philosophical balance to
the Black
Pantera) or anyone else who is able to cooperate with the general
requirements of the Quarterly.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Mikael
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:23 PM
To: [9]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
If you guys haven't received your copy of Profiles yet, maybe look
in your
dustbin again. The envelope with what you thought was a GT40
magazine sent
to you by mistake was in fact the Profiles, with the black Pantera
with GT40
front and rear etc. that Profiles had the IMO poor taste to put on
the cover
and rear and centerfold.
I of course quickly turned to the build-text, because I wanted to
try to
understand WHY? Was there a Pantera with smashed front and rear and
a GT40
parked on railway tracks so only front and rear was saved? No, the
author
states "for some crazy reason". Indeed.
I saw this car at POCA in Arizona a few years ago, where it was
parked in
the "look-at-me" spot right in front of the doors, so you had to
walk around
it. After refusing the first couple of times, I did take the time to
look it
over. And the craftsmanship was excellent including mirror like
pint.
Sometimes when you see "menacingly modified" (quote from Profiles)
cars like
this, but well done, you can state "I don't like it, but I'm
impressed with
the craftsmanship". Well not here, not this one. Even though the
craftsmanship is good, you do not build your car to look like
another brand.
As simple as that.
I hope the skillful builder gets the GT40 he really wants and leaves
our
Panteras alone. And I hope Profiles editor has better judgment going
forward. In the same envelope was the Membership Renewal Notice.
Brave!
Whether I renew or not depends on the reaction to this mail. Am I
alone
here?
Mikael
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Mike,
What about the last never published mystery issue of the PI
quarterly.
Since it seems to have been lost to oblivion, maybe they will let
you
publish spread through several issues of Profiles what they
promised to
publish in that issue?
Ken
__________________________________________________________________
From: Michael Haney <[14]paso750 at gmail.com>
To: "Detomaso at Poca. Com" <[15]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
Thank you very nuch, Chuck.
It is certainly true that I don't have a year's worth of cars
lined
up to be featured in Profiles (I actually have 1.5 right now).
Chuck
hit the
nail on the head - I have deadlines and I really don't want to
disappoint
the membership with a late or nonexistent magazine. I also have a
full-time
job and a wife (I think I have a life, too).
Tony's car certainly started out as an average Pantera and it
is
still no less a Pantera than any other modified one (just look at
featured
cars in past issues). How many wings and flares does a Pantera
need? As
many
as its owner decides it needs.
A thoughtful discussion usually ends up with positive results
- how
about submitting the story of you and your car?
Mike Haney
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1][16]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of
Charles
Engles
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:11 PM
To: 'Mikael'; [2][17]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
Dear Mikael,
Your point is well taken. Another consideration is
that of
the
realities of turning out a Quarterly Profiles account for what
you see.
I was the editor of the Dallas Pantera Club
newsletter. I
completely understand the pressure to make the deadline and the
paucity
of
contributions from members. In the case of the new editor, I
suspect
that
rather than promoting Mr. Ortiz's custom Pantera philosophy, Mr.
Haney
was
happy to have the written and photographic material to present a
Pantera of
the Quarter. I don't know, but I suspect that he does not have a
folder of
Panteras of the Quarter to fill the next five issues and I
suspect that
he
would gladly entertain your Pantera (as a philosophical balance
to the
Black
Pantera) or anyone else who is able to cooperate with the general
requirements of the Quarterly.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3][18]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of
Mikael
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:23 PM
To: [4][19]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera
If you guys haven't received your copy of Profiles yet, maybe
look in
your
dustbin again. The envelope with what you thought was a GT40
magazine
sent
to you by mistake was in fact the Profiles, with the black
Pantera with
GT40
front and rear etc. that Profiles had the IMO poor taste to put
on the
cover
and rear and centerfold.
I of course quickly turned to the build-text, because I wanted to
try
to
understand WHY? Was there a Pantera with smashed front and rear
and a
GT40
parked on railway tracks so only front and rear was saved? No,
the
author
states "for some crazy reason". Indeed.
I saw this car at POCA in Arizona a few years ago, where it was
parked
in
the "look-at-me" spot right in front of the doors, so you had to
walk
around
it. After refusing the first couple of times, I did take the time
to
look it
over. And the craftsmanship was excellent including mirror like
pint.
Sometimes when you see "menacingly modified" (quote from
Profiles) cars
like
this, but well done, you can state "I don't like it, but I'm
impressed
with
the craftsmanship". Well not here, not this one. Even though the
craftsmanship is good, you do not build your car to look like
another
brand.
As simple as that.
I hope the skillful builder gets the GT40 he really wants and
leaves
our
Panteras alone. And I hope Profiles editor has better judgment
going
forward. In the same envelope was the Membership Renewal Notice.
Brave!
Whether I renew or not depends on the reaction to this mail. Am I
alone
here?
Mikael
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