[DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera

John McKee johnmckee at cox.net
Sat Jul 18 12:26:22 EDT 2015


I remember that one. Mad Dawg's Phoenix was on the fictitious cover.

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On Jul 18, 2015 9:14 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> Mike, 
> What about the last never published mystery issue of the PI quarterly.  Since it seems to have been lost to oblivion, maybe they will let you publish spread through several issues of Profiles what they promised to publish in that issue? 
> Ken 
>        From: Michael Haney <paso750 at gmail.com> 
> To: "Detomaso at Poca. Com" <detomaso at poca.com> 
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:07 PM 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera 
>    
> Thank you very nuch, Chuck. 
>     It is certainly true that I don't have a year's worth of cars lined 
> up to be featured in Profiles (I actually have 1.5 right now). Chuck hit the 
> nail on the head - I have deadlines and I really don't want to disappoint 
> the membership with a late or nonexistent magazine. I also have a full-time 
> job and a wife (I think I have a life, too). 
>     Tony's car certainly started out as an average Pantera and it is 
> still no less a Pantera than any other modified one (just look at featured 
> cars in past issues). How many wings and flares does a Pantera need? As many 
> as its owner decides it needs. 
>     A thoughtful discussion usually ends up with positive results - how 
> about submitting the story of you and your car? 
>
> Mike Haney 
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Charles 
> Engles 
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:11 PM 
> To: 'Mikael'; detomaso at poca.com 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera 
>
> Dear Mikael, 
>
>
>           Your point is well taken.  Another consideration is that of the 
> realities of turning out a Quarterly Profiles account for what you see. 
>
>             I was the editor of the Dallas Pantera Club newsletter.  I 
> completely understand the pressure to make the deadline and the paucity of 
> contributions from members.  In the case of the new editor, I suspect that 
> rather than promoting Mr. Ortiz's custom Pantera philosophy, Mr. Haney was 
> happy to have the written and photographic material to present a Pantera of 
> the Quarter.  I don't know, but I suspect that he does not have a folder of 
> Panteras of the Quarter to fill the next five issues and I suspect that he 
> would gladly entertain your Pantera (as a philosophical balance to the Black 
> Pantera) or anyone else who is able to cooperate with the general 
> requirements of the Quarterly. 
>
>
>                     Warmest regards, Chuck Engles 
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Mikael 
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:23 PM 
> To: detomaso at poca.com 
> Subject: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera 
>
> If you guys haven't received your copy of Profiles yet, maybe look in your 
> dustbin again. The envelope with what you thought was a GT40 magazine sent 
> to you by mistake was in fact the Profiles, with the black Pantera with GT40 
> front and rear etc. that Profiles had the IMO poor taste to put on the cover 
> and rear and centerfold. 
>
>
>
> I of course quickly turned to the build-text, because I wanted to try to 
> understand WHY? Was there a Pantera with smashed front and rear and a GT40 
> parked on railway tracks so only front and rear was saved? No, the author 
> states "for some crazy reason". Indeed. 
>
>
>
> I saw this car at POCA in Arizona a few years ago, where it was parked in 
> the "look-at-me" spot right in front of the doors, so you had to walk around 
> it. After refusing the first couple of times, I did take the time to look it 
> over. And the craftsmanship was excellent including mirror like pint. 
> Sometimes when you see "menacingly modified" (quote from Profiles) cars like 
> this, but well done, you can state "I don't like it, but I'm impressed with 
> the craftsmanship". Well not here, not this one. Even though the 
> craftsmanship is good, you do not build your car to look like another brand. 
> As simple as that. 
>
>
>
> I hope the skillful builder gets the GT40 he really wants and leaves our 
> Panteras alone. And I hope Profiles editor has better judgment going 
> forward. In the same envelope was the Membership Renewal Notice. Brave! 
> Whether I renew or not depends on the reaction to this mail. Am I alone 
> here?  
>
>
>
> Mikael 
>
>
>
>
>
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>    Mike, 
>    What about the last never published mystery issue of the PI quarterly. 
>    Since it seems to have been lost to oblivion, maybe they will let you 
>    publish spread through several issues of Profiles what they promised to 
>    publish in that issue? 
>    Ken 
>      __________________________________________________________________ 
>
>    From: Michael Haney <paso750 at gmail.com> 
>    To: "Detomaso at Poca. Com" <detomaso at poca.com> 
>    Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:07 PM 
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera 
>    Thank you very nuch, Chuck. 
>        It is certainly true that I don't have a year's worth of cars lined 
>    up to be featured in Profiles (I actually have 1.5 right now). Chuck 
>    hit the 
>    nail on the head - I have deadlines and I really don't want to 
>    disappoint 
>    the membership with a late or nonexistent magazine. I also have a 
>    full-time 
>    job and a wife (I think I have a life, too). 
>        Tony's car certainly started out as an average Pantera and it is 
>    still no less a Pantera than any other modified one (just look at 
>    featured 
>    cars in past issues). How many wings and flares does a Pantera need? As 
>    many 
>    as its owner decides it needs. 
>        A thoughtful discussion usually ends up with positive results - how 
>    about submitting the story of you and your car? 
>    Mike Haney 
>    -----Original Message----- 
>    From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of 
>    Charles 
>    Engles 
>    Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:11 PM 
>    To: 'Mikael'; [2]detomaso at poca.com 
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera 
>    Dear Mikael, 
>              Your point is well taken.  Another consideration is that of 
>    the 
>    realities of turning out a Quarterly Profiles account for what you see. 
>                I was the editor of the Dallas Pantera Club newsletter.  I 
>    completely understand the pressure to make the deadline and the paucity 
>    of 
>    contributions from members.  In the case of the new editor, I suspect 
>    that 
>    rather than promoting Mr. Ortiz's custom Pantera philosophy, Mr. Haney 
>    was 
>    happy to have the written and photographic material to present a 
>    Pantera of 
>    the Quarter.  I don't know, but I suspect that he does not have a 
>    folder of 
>    Panteras of the Quarter to fill the next five issues and I suspect that 
>    he 
>    would gladly entertain your Pantera (as a philosophical balance to the 
>    Black 
>    Pantera) or anyone else who is able to cooperate with the general 
>    requirements of the Quarterly. 
>                        Warmest regards, Chuck Engles 
>    -----Original Message----- 
>    From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of 
>    Mikael 
>    Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:23 PM 
>    To: [4]detomaso at poca.com 
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera 
>    If you guys haven't received your copy of Profiles yet, maybe look in 
>    your 
>    dustbin again. The envelope with what you thought was a GT40 magazine 
>    sent 
>    to you by mistake was in fact the Profiles, with the black Pantera with 
>    GT40 
>    front and rear etc. that Profiles had the IMO poor taste to put on the 
>    cover 
>    and rear and centerfold. 
>    I of course quickly turned to the build-text, because I wanted to try 
>    to 
>    understand WHY? Was there a Pantera with smashed front and rear and a 
>    GT40 
>    parked on railway tracks so only front and rear was saved? No, the 
>    author 
>    states "for some crazy reason". Indeed. 
>    I saw this car at POCA in Arizona a few years ago, where it was parked 
>    in 
>    the "look-at-me" spot right in front of the doors, so you had to walk 
>    around 
>    it. After refusing the first couple of times, I did take the time to 
>    look it 
>    over. And the craftsmanship was excellent including mirror like pint. 
>    Sometimes when you see "menacingly modified" (quote from Profiles) cars 
>    like 
>    this, but well done, you can state "I don't like it, but I'm impressed 
>    with 
>    the craftsmanship". Well not here, not this one. Even though the 
>    craftsmanship is good, you do not build your car to look like another 
>    brand. 
>    As simple as that. 
>    I hope the skillful builder gets the GT40 he really wants and leaves 
>    our 
>    Panteras alone. And I hope Profiles editor has better judgment going 
>    forward. In the same envelope was the Membership Renewal Notice. Brave! 
>    Whether I renew or not depends on the reaction to this mail. Am I alone 
>    here? 
>    Mikael 
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