[DeTomaso] Campagnolo 10x15 taking orders in September!!!
Patrick HALS
patrickhals at gmail.com
Sat Jul 18 05:49:59 EDT 2015
Why did I change my old original Campi's on my Candy factory GR4 car, for
new Marvic ones ?
For very basic and sound safety reasons.
What Ed says about corrosion is 100 % true. Magnesium tends to corrode in
time due to humidity. If wheel corrodes, it may remain unnoticed or
unseen, and you might as well drive without damage, BUT ....
When you look at how much the wheel changes shape with acceleration or
simple speed, just figure out how it suffers when you are racing and
attacking rumble strips at the limit of the grip . The forces and
constraints on the metal and rubber are just enormous, and you do not wish
to add extra risks to the situation by using wheels that might not
perfectly resist.
I have recently bought a 1972 GTS ( for street use ) but I will change my
old 10x15 for a new set , just for a matter of safety, now that it is
possible !
Just figure out the damage to your car ( and related costs not even
mentioning the risk of damaging other cars or people's life ) if one of
your rear wheel brakes under acceleration or bad road condition...
Patrick Hals
+32.476.567.898
>
>
> *From: *Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> *Subject: **Re: [DeTomaso] Commingle 10x15 taking orders in September!!!*
> *Date: *July 17, 2015 at 21:33:26 PDT
> *To: *Yahoo <jefude at yahoo.com>
> *Cc: *"detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>
> I believe magnesium strength is in its surface and when it starts to
> corrode it looses its safety margin. From my own experience racing
> motorcycles and using magnesium wheels, I would never use magnesium
> rims older than 15 years for racing. Why do you think Patrick Hals uses
> new Marvic Gr4 wheels on his race car? The surface material after years
> of humidity will start corroding because the magnesium is "living".
> Even well painted wheels after 3 to 5 years; the paint starts flaking
> off.
>
> If I were going to spend $3000 - $4000 for a set of two 40 year old
> magnesium 10x15 wheels, I would damn sure have them X-rayed or ZYGLO
> them first, and then have them recoated just to make sure you protect
> the surface. Then yeah they should be fine.
>
> I tried to find a a used set myself, kind of difficult so for me
> personally I am going to buy new for $3000, and call it a day.
>
> My opinion. Anyone want to back me up? :-) lol
>
> Ed
>
> On Jul 17, 2015, at 19:20, Yahoo via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry Ed,
> But I call sales hype BS here. I have owned 2 Panteras dating back to
> 1976. Never have heard anyone mention "aged" magnesium rims shattering.
> That includes owners of other classic Italian clad Campy cars.
> If it is true of these wheels shattering why are Grp 4 Panteras racing
> with these time time bombs today. I would think that they would be
> banned.
> I think you are just a wee bit caught up in the euphoria of these new
> reproduction wheels.
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Why did I change my old original Campi's on my Candy factory GR4 car,
for new Marvic ones ?A
For very basic and sound safety reasons.
What Ed says about corrosion is 100 % true.A Magnesium tends to
corrode in time due to humidity.A If wheel corrodes, it may remain
unnoticed or unseen, and you might as well drive without damage, BUT
....A
When you look at how much the wheel changes shape with acceleration or
simple speed, just figure out how it suffers when you are racing and
attacking rumble strips at the limit of the grip . The forces and
constraints on the metal and rubber are just enormous, and you do not
wish to add extra risks to the situation by using wheels that might not
perfectly resist.
I have recently bought a 1972 GTS ( for street use A ) but I will
change my old 10x15 for a new set , just for a matter of safety, now
that it is possible !
Just figure out the damage to your car A ( and related costs not even
mentioning the risk of damaging other cars or people's life ) if one of
your rear wheel brakes under acceleration or bad road condition... A
Patrick Hals
+32.476.567.898
From: Ed Mendez <[1]edducati at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Commingle 10x15 taking orders in September!!!
Date: July 17, 2015 at 21:33:26 PDT
To: Yahoo <[2]jefude at yahoo.com>
Cc: "[3]detomaso at poca.com" <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
A A I believe magnesium strength is in its surface and when it starts
to
A A corrode it looses its safety margin. From my own experience racing
A A motorcycles and using magnesium wheels, I would never use magnesium
A A rims older than 15 years for racing. Why do you think Patrick Hals
uses
A A new Marvic Gr4 wheels on his race car? The surface material after
years
A A of humidity will start corroding because the magnesium is "living".
A A Even well painted wheels after 3 to 5 years; the paint starts
flaking
A A off.
A A If I were going to spend $3000 - $4000 for a set of two 40 year old
A A magnesium 10x15 wheels, I would damn sure have them X-rayed or
ZYGLO
A A them first, and then have them recoated just to make sure you
protect
A A the surface. Then yeah they should be fine.
A A I tried to find a a used set myself, kind of difficult so for me
A A personally I am going to buy new for $3000, and call it a day.
A A My opinion. Anyone want to back me up? :-) lol
A A Ed
A A On Jul 17, 2015, at 19:20, Yahoo via DeTomaso
<[1][5]detomaso at poca.com>
A A wrote:
A A Sorry Ed,
A A But I call sales hype BS here. I have owned 2 Panteras dating back
to
A A 1976. Never have heard anyone mention "aged" magnesium rims
shattering.
A A That includes owners of other classic Italian clad Campy cars.
A A If it is true of these wheels shattering why are Grp 4 Panteras
racing
A A with these time time bombs today. I would think that they would be
A A banned.
A A I think you are just a wee bit caught up in the euphoria of these
new
A A reproduction wheels.
A A Sent from my iPhone
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