[DeTomaso] GT40/Pantera

Ed Mendez edducati at mac.com
Fri Jul 17 18:11:57 EDT 2015


Awesome!


> On Jul 17, 2015, at 15:05, audionut at hushmail.com wrote:
> 
>   What we have here is two guys who, very evidently, truly and deeply
>   love the Pantera:  One guy expresses his love for it by seeing the car
>   as his own blank canvas, immersing himself in an incredibly difficult
>   and time-consuming, self-styled project, no doubt spending a ton of
>   cash on radically modifying and re-shaping it, the other guy expresses
>   his outrage and disgust for a fellow Pantera owner having fearlessly
>   and inexplicably taken the car's original body design to the brink of
>   unrecognizability.
> 
> 
> 
>   I completely understand where both of them are coming from.  It's why
>   we are all here:  Unadulterated passion for this outrageously fun and
>   beautiful machine.
> 
>   Sent using Hushmail
>   On July 17, 2015 at 1:58 PM, "Ed Mendez" <edducati at mac.com <mailto:edducati at mac.com>> wrote:
> 
>     That is Tony Ortiz that owns and built that car. He is a good
>     person, and put his heart and soul into it. Some like it, some
>     donat, but he does win trophy and after trophy with that car. I know
>     some people donat like my car, but my feelings would be deeply hurt
>     if people said that about my car on a public forum.
>     Everyone builds their Pantera to their liking, even the Ring Bros
>     Pantera was built by someone's dreams of what they like or want.
>     It's not our place to judge but to be here for each other, and
>     support each other.
>     Tony is one of us, a Pantera person.
>     If you want your Pantera in Profiles, please submit an article and
>     pictures to Mike Haney at paso750 at gmail.com <mailto:paso750 at gmail.com>.
>     I encourage everyone to do so...
>     Ed
>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 12:22, Mikael <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk <mailto:mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>>
>     wrote:
>> 
>> If you guys haven't received your copy of Profiles yet, maybe look
>     in
>> your dustbin again. The envelope with what you thought was a GT40
>> magazine sent to you by mistake was in fact the Profiles, with the
>> black Pantera with GT40 front and rear etc. that Profiles had the
>     IMO
>> poor taste to put on the cover and rear and centerfold.
>> 
>> 
>> I of course quickly turned to the build-text, because I wanted to
>     try
>> to understand WHY? Was there a Pantera with smashed front and rear
>     and
>> a GT40 parked on railway tracks so only front and rear was saved?
>     No,
>> the author states "for some crazy reason". Indeed.
>> 
>> 
>> I saw this car at POCA in Arizona a few years ago, where it was
>     parked
>> in the "look-at-me" spot right in front of the doors, so you had
>     to
>> walk around it. After refusing the first couple of times, I did
>     take
>> the time to look it over. And the craftsmanship was excellent
>     including
>> mirror like pint. Sometimes when you see "menacingly modified"
>     (quote
>> from Profiles) cars like this, but well done, you can state "I
>     don't
>> like it, but I'm impressed with the craftsmanship". Well not here,
>     not
>> this one. Even though the craftsmanship is good, you do not build
>     your
>> car to look like another brand. As simple as that.
>> 
>> 
>> I hope the skillful builder gets the GT40 he really wants and
>     leaves
>> our Panteras alone. And I hope Profiles editor has better judgment
>> going forward. In the same envelope was the Membership Renewal
>     Notice.
>> Brave! Whether I renew or not depends on the reaction to this
>     mail. Am
>> I alone here?
>> 
>> 
>> Mikael
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   Awesome!

   On Jul 17, 2015, at 15:05, [1]audionut at hushmail.com wrote:

     What we have here is two guys who, very evidently, truly and deeply
     love the Pantera:  One guy expresses his love for it by seeing the
   car
     as his own blank canvas, immersing himself in an incredibly difficult
     and time-consuming, self-styled project, no doubt spending a ton of
     cash on radically modifying and re-shaping it, the other guy
   expresses
     his outrage and disgust for a fellow Pantera owner having fearlessly
     and inexplicably taken the car's original body design to the brink of
     unrecognizability.
     I completely understand where both of them are coming from.  It's why
     we are all here:  Unadulterated passion for this outrageously fun and
     beautiful machine.
     Sent using Hushmail
     On July 17, 2015 at 1:58 PM, "Ed Mendez" <[2]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
       That is Tony Ortiz that owns and built that car. He is a good
       person, and put his heart and soul into it. Some like it, some
       donat, but he does win trophy and after trophy with that car. I
   know
       some people donat like my car, but my feelings would be deeply hurt
       if people said that about my car on a public forum.
       Everyone builds their Pantera to their liking, even the Ring Bros
       Pantera was built by someone's dreams of what they like or want.
       It's not our place to judge but to be here for each other, and
       support each other.
       Tony is one of us, a Pantera person.
       If you want your Pantera in Profiles, please submit an article and
       pictures to Mike Haney at [3]paso750 at gmail.com.
       I encourage everyone to do so...
       Ed

     On Jul 17, 2015, at 12:22, Mikael <[4]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>

       wrote:

     If you guys haven't received your copy of Profiles yet, maybe look

       in

     your dustbin again. The envelope with what you thought was a GT40
     magazine sent to you by mistake was in fact the Profiles, with the
     black Pantera with GT40 front and rear etc. that Profiles had the

       IMO

     poor taste to put on the cover and rear and centerfold.
     I of course quickly turned to the build-text, because I wanted to

       try

     to understand WHY? Was there a Pantera with smashed front and rear

       and

     a GT40 parked on railway tracks so only front and rear was saved?

       No,

     the author states "for some crazy reason". Indeed.
     I saw this car at POCA in Arizona a few years ago, where it was

       parked

     in the "look-at-me" spot right in front of the doors, so you had

       to

     walk around it. After refusing the first couple of times, I did

       take

     the time to look it over. And the craftsmanship was excellent

       including

     mirror like pint. Sometimes when you see "menacingly modified"

       (quote

     from Profiles) cars like this, but well done, you can state "I

       don't

     like it, but I'm impressed with the craftsmanship". Well not here,

       not

     this one. Even though the craftsmanship is good, you do not build

       your

     car to look like another brand. As simple as that.
     I hope the skillful builder gets the GT40 he really wants and

       leaves

     our Panteras alone. And I hope Profiles editor has better judgment
     going forward. In the same envelope was the Membership Renewal

       Notice.

     Brave! Whether I renew or not depends on the reaction to this

       mail. Am

     I alone here?
     Mikael
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