[DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
thomas
thomas at hax.se
Fri Jul 17 17:49:44 EDT 2015
I could not leave out votes for associate member even if I have none.
> 17 jul 2015 kl. 19:43 skrev Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>:
>
> We provided one secure form for both members and associate members, you
> you are also required to put in you member number before voting. The
> member must vote as required by the form, but the associate member is
> optional as some people do not have an associate member, and we do not
> record or keep associate members email addresses. After the election
> results are tabulated we can see the people by member number who have
> voted and if they have an associate member or not. It is all secure and
> secret we cannot see what they voted for only the number of votes per
> person.
>
> So no the associate member does not get a ballot.
>
> Ed
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>
> On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:33, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> So Jack kindly sent me a PDF of the Newsletter and I have all I need to
> vote on the proposed changes.
>
> That said I see the electronic voting form provides a Member &
> Associate vote on the same form. I recall some prior discussion on
> electronic voting having to have strict rules to ensure voting cannot
> be falsified and a complete and updated list of all Associate members
> being an issue that required to be resolved.
>
> Presumably Associate Members have an equal voting right, so how does
> the form ensure one member one vote? I have to vote on behalf of my
> Associate Member, should they not receive a separate ballot?
>
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 14:35:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
> From: [2]asajay at asajay.com
> To: [3]julian_kift at hotmail.com
> CC: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> Dang, what a great idea!
> Whoever is manging the web site, Ed, should post an article on the
> front page with the pages published in the newsletter. This way
> everyone could see them. After all, as Julian points out, the By-Laws
> are published publicly, there's no reason the changes can't be too.
> I'm sure this will make the process go much smoother for everybody.
> Asa Jay
> Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
> Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> With all due respect I thought the electronic voting was primarily to
> address the more distant members who had trouble in returning postal
> votes by the deadlines and in the same vein hopefully increase member
> voting participation. If the information pertaining to the proposed
> By-Law changes cannot be distributed similarly then little has been
> gained from my perspective as we have no idea what we are voting on....
> and all of sudden it starts sounding like a 2016 US Presidential
> election!
>
> I would recommend the information filter out through Chapter Presidents
> for dissemination to members (with encouragement to vote) and be posted
> in an appropriate location on the POCA website. The By-Laws are there,
> so why not add the proposed changes?
>
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: [6]tecnosound at hotmail.com
> To: [7]bill at incendium.com; [8]julian_kift at hotmail.com;
> [9]edducati at mac.com
> CC: [10]detomaso at poca.com; [11]vote at poca.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:39:33 -0700
> Did you mean to you the expression "cart in front of the horse "? If
> that's the case , What is out of order ? The newsletters were sent . I
> received mine today that includes an explanation just like Ed pointed
> out . I don't think anyone can control the fact that the US Post
> office can not deliver to everyone on the same day . Also emails were
> sent ,( which can be sent and received at the same time) Looks to me
> like people are doing a commendable job . And there's nothing like
> doing a commendable job , only to have people try and find fault with
> it .
>
>> From: [12]bill at incendium.com
>> To: [13]julian_kift at hotmail.com; [14]edducati at mac.com
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:04:53 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
>> CC: [15]detomaso at poca.com; [16]vote at poca.com
>>
>> Hi All:
>> Once again, horse in front of the cart, -.-.-. The "powers that be"
> should
>> explains things up front and in the proper order.
>>
>> I can vote via email, on what ?
>> Then I'm told to vote...
>> Oh Gee, no newsletter yet
>>
>> "comeonman"
>>
>> Cheers:
>>
>> Please use my [17]bill at incendium.com email address in all messages.
>>
>> Bill Moore
>> Incendium Supply Ltd.
>> Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W.
>> Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9
>> 403.202.0055[18] Call: 403.202.0055 [19]Call: 403.202.0055
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [[20]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> Julian Kift
>> Sent: July-14-15 12:50 PM
>> To: Ed Mendez
>> Cc: De Tomaso List; [21]vote at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
>>
>> Ah thanks, as we have made the move to electronic voting can we
> distribute
>> the reference material electronically too? Working outside the U.S. I
> won't
>> see my newsletters until late August sometime.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> Subject: Re: [ballotbin website]Voting
>> From: [22]edducati at mac.com
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:32:36 -0700
>> CC: [23]detomaso at poca.com; [24]vote at poca.com
>> To: [25]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>
>> They are in the latest newsletter of July 2015 page 6. :-) Ed
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2015, at 11:06, Julian Kift <[26]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:Ed,
>>
>> Thanks, but now I need the proposed changes to the articles to decide
>> whether I am for or against them.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>> Subject: Re: [ballotbin website]Voting
>>> From: [27]edducati at mac.com
>>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 10:50:55 -0700
>>> CC: [28]vote at poca.com
>>> To: [29]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>>
>>> Its started now.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>> On Jul 14, 2015, at 10:47, [30]jp at guatec.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I received an email to vote, but no idea what I am voting for and
>>>> the site says the election is closed? Julian
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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