[DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting

thomas thomas at hax.se
Fri Jul 17 17:49:44 EDT 2015


I could not leave out votes for associate member even if I have none.

> 17 jul 2015 kl. 19:43 skrev Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>:
> 
>   We provided one secure form for both members and associate members, you
>   you are also required to put in you member number before voting. The
>   member must vote as required by the form, but the associate member is
>   optional as some people do not have an associate member, and we do not
>   record or keep associate members email addresses. After the election
>   results are tabulated we can see the people by member number who have
>   voted and if they have an associate member or not. It is all secure and
>   secret we cannot see what they voted for only the number of votes per
>   person.
> 
>    So no the associate member does not get a ballot.
> 
>   Ed
>   Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> 
>   On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:33, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>   wrote:
> 
>   So Jack kindly sent me a PDF of the Newsletter and I have all I need to
>   vote on the proposed changes.
> 
>   That said I see the electronic voting form provides a Member &
>   Associate vote on the same form. I recall some prior discussion on
>   electronic voting having to have strict rules to ensure voting cannot
>   be falsified and a complete and updated list of all Associate members
>   being an issue that required to be resolved.
> 
>   Presumably Associate Members have an equal voting right, so how does
>   the form ensure one member one vote? I have to vote on behalf of my
>   Associate Member, should they not receive a separate ballot?
> 
>   Julian
>     __________________________________________________________________
> 
>   Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 14:35:37 -0700
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
>   From: [2]asajay at asajay.com
>   To: [3]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>   CC: [4]detomaso at poca.com
>   Dang, what a great idea!
>   Whoever is manging the web site, Ed, should post an article on the
>   front page with the pages published in the newsletter.  This way
>   everyone could see them.  After all, as Julian points out, the By-Laws
>   are published publicly, there's no reason the changes can't be too.
>   I'm sure this will make the process go much smoother for everybody.
>   Asa Jay
>   Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
>   Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>   With all due respect I thought the electronic voting was primarily to
>   address the more distant members who had trouble in returning postal
>   votes by the deadlines and in the same vein hopefully increase member
>   voting participation. If the information pertaining to the proposed
>   By-Law changes cannot be distributed similarly then little has been
>   gained from my perspective as we have no idea what we are voting on....
>   and all of sudden it starts sounding like a 2016 US Presidential
>   election!
> 
>   I would recommend the information filter out through Chapter Presidents
>   for dissemination to members (with encouragement to vote) and be posted
>   in an appropriate location on the POCA website. The By-Laws are there,
>   so why not add the proposed changes?
> 
>   Julian
>     __________________________________________________________________
> 
>   From: [6]tecnosound at hotmail.com
>   To: [7]bill at incendium.com; [8]julian_kift at hotmail.com;
>   [9]edducati at mac.com
>   CC: [10]detomaso at poca.com; [11]vote at poca.com
>   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
>   Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:39:33 -0700
>   Did  you mean to you the expression "cart in front of the horse "? If
>   that's the case , What is out of order ? The newsletters were sent . I
>   received mine today that includes an explanation just like Ed pointed
>   out .  I don't think anyone can control the fact that the US Post
>   office can not deliver to everyone on the same day . Also  emails were
>   sent ,( which can be sent and received at the same time) Looks to me
>   like people are doing a commendable job . And there's nothing like
>   doing a commendable job , only to have people try and find fault with
>   it .
> 
>> From: [12]bill at incendium.com
>> To: [13]julian_kift at hotmail.com; [14]edducati at mac.com
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:04:53 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
>> CC: [15]detomaso at poca.com; [16]vote at poca.com
>> 
>> Hi All:
>> Once again, horse in front of the cart, -.-.-. The "powers that be"
>   should
>> explains things up front and in the proper order.
>> 
>> I can vote via email, on what ?
>> Then I'm told to vote...
>> Oh Gee, no newsletter yet
>> 
>> "comeonman"
>> 
>> Cheers:
>> 
>> Please use my [17]bill at incendium.com email address in all messages.
>> 
>> Bill Moore
>> Incendium Supply Ltd.
>> Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W.
>> Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9
>> 403.202.0055[18] Call: 403.202.0055 [19]Call: 403.202.0055
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [[20]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>   Julian Kift
>> Sent: July-14-15 12:50 PM
>> To: Ed Mendez
>> Cc: De Tomaso List; [21]vote at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
>> 
>> Ah thanks, as we have made the move to electronic voting can we
>   distribute
>> the reference material electronically too? Working outside the U.S. I
>   won't
>> see my newsletters until late August sometime.
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [ballotbin website]Voting
>> From: [22]edducati at mac.com
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:32:36 -0700
>> CC: [23]detomaso at poca.com; [24]vote at poca.com
>> To: [25]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>> 
>> They are in the latest newsletter of July 2015 page 6. :-) Ed
>> 
>> On Jul 14, 2015, at 11:06, Julian Kift <[26]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>   wrote:Ed,
>> 
>> Thanks, but now I need the proposed changes to the articles to decide
>> whether I am for or against them.
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [ballotbin website]Voting
>>> From: [27]edducati at mac.com
>>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 10:50:55 -0700
>>> CC: [28]vote at poca.com
>>> To: [29]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>> 
>>> Its started now.
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>>> On Jul 14, 2015, at 10:47, [30]jp at guatec.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I received an email to vote, but no idea what I am voting for and
>>>> the site says the election is closed? Julian
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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