[DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Fri Jul 17 14:13:34 EDT 2015 

Wait... was that British humor?
:)

Asa Jay


Quoting Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:

> Thanks for the clarification, it appears consistent with US general  
> election voting policy i.e. you don't need to be a real person or  
> have a unique ID to vote ;>)
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
> From: edducati at mac.com
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 10:43:41 -0700
> CC: asajay at asajay.com; detomaso at poca.com; vote at poca.com
> To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
>
> We provided one secure form for both members and associate members,  
> you you are also required to put in you member number before voting.  
> The member must vote as required by the form, but the associate  
> member is optional as some people do not have an associate member,  
> and we do not record or keep associate members email addresses.  
> After the election results are tabulated we can see the people by  
> member number who have voted and if they have an associate member or  
> not. It is all secure and secret we cannot see what they voted for  
> only the number of votes per person.
>  So no the associate member does not get a ballot.
> Ed
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:33, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> So Jack kindly sent me a PDF of the Newsletter and I have all I need  
> to vote on the proposed changes.
>
> That said I see the electronic voting form provides a Member &  
> Associate vote on the same form. I recall some prior discussion on  
> electronic voting having to have strict rules to ensure voting  
> cannot be falsified and a complete and updated list of all Associate  
> members being an issue that required to be resolved.
>
> Presumably Associate Members have an equal voting right, so how does  
> the form ensure one member one vote? I have to vote on behalf of my  
> Associate Member, should they not receive a separate ballot?
>
> Julian
>
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 14:35:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
> From: asajay at asajay.com
> To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>
> Dang, what a great idea!Whoever is manging the web site, Ed, should  
> post an article on the front page with the pages published in the  
> newsletter.  This way everyone could see them.  After all, as Julian  
> points out, the By-Laws are published publicly, there's no reason  
> the changes can't be too.
> I'm sure this will make the process go much smoother for everybody.Asa Jay
> Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
>
> Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> With all due respect I thought the electronic voting was primarily  
> to address the more distant members who had trouble in returning  
> postal votes by the deadlines and in the same vein hopefully  
> increase member voting participation. If the information pertaining  
> to the proposed By-Law changes cannot be distributed similarly then  
> little has been gained from my perspective as we have no idea what  
> we are voting on.... and all of sudden it starts sounding like a  
> 2016 US Presidential election!
>
> I would recommend the information filter out through Chapter  
> Presidents for dissemination to members (with encouragement to vote)  
> and be posted in an appropriate location on the POCA website. The  
> By-Laws are there, so why not add the proposed changes?
>
> Julian
> From: tecnosound at hotmail.com
> To: bill at incendium.com; julian_kift at hotmail.com; edducati at mac.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com; vote at poca.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:39:33 -0700
>
>
>
>
> Did  you mean to you the expression "cart in front of the horse "?  
> If that's the case , What is out of order ? The newsletters were  
> sent . I received mine today that includes an explanation just like  
> Ed pointed out .  I don't think anyone can control the fact that the  
> US Post office can not deliver to everyone on the same day . Also   
> emails were sent ,( which can be sent and received at the same time)  
> Looks to me like people are doing a commendable job . And there's  
> nothing like doing a commendable job , only to have people try and  
> find fault with it .
>
>> From: bill at incendium.com
>> To: julian_kift at hotmail.com; edducati at mac.com
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:04:53 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
>> CC: detomaso at poca.com; vote at poca.com
>>
>> Hi All:
>> Once again, horse in front of the cart, -.-.-. The "powers that be" should
>> explains things up front and in the proper order.
>>
>> I can vote via email, on what ?
>> Then I'm told to vote...
>> Oh Gee, no newsletter yet
>>
>> "comeonman"
>>
>> Cheers:
>>
>> Please use my bill at incendium.com email address in all messages.
>>
>> Bill Moore
>> Incendium Supply Ltd.
>> Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W.
>> Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9
>> 403.202.0055
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift
>> Sent: July-14-15 12:50 PM
>> To: Ed Mendez
>> Cc: De Tomaso List; vote at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [ballotbin website]Voting
>>
>> Ah thanks, as we have made the move to electronic voting can we distribute
>> the reference material electronically too? Working outside the U.S. I won't
>> see my newsletters until late August sometime.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> Subject: Re: [ballotbin website]Voting
>> From: edducati at mac.com
>> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:32:36 -0700
>> CC: detomaso at poca.com; vote at poca.com
>> To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>
>> They are in the latest newsletter of July 2015 page 6. :-) Ed
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2015, at 11:06, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:Ed,
>>
>> Thanks, but now I need the proposed changes to the articles to decide
>> whether I am for or against them.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [ballotbin website]Voting
>> > From: edducati at mac.com
>> > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 10:50:55 -0700
>> > CC: vote at poca.com
>> > To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
>> >
>> > Its started now.
>> >
>> > Ed
>> > > On Jul 14, 2015, at 10:47, jp at guatec.com wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I received an email to vote, but no idea what I am voting for and
>> > > the site says the election is closed? Julian
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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