[DeTomaso] 351C Water Pump

Pantdino pantdino at aol.com
Fri Jul 17 01:41:30 EDT 2015




With the new non-name-probably-Chinese pumps, I¹d be more worried
about
the bearings and seals.



That would be my concern, too.
How would you feel if you have to replace it in what seems like too short of a time because it starts leaking?


If it wouldn't bother you then give the off brand one a try.


Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: John Donahue <demongusta at me.com>; Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
Cc: deTomaso <deTomaso at POCA.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 16, 2015 7:31 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 351C Water Pump


I had a Milodon, which is virtually identical to a Flow Kooler.  I liked
it. 
Very light.  I believe it is injection molded or maybe it¹s called
die cast vs.
sand cast.  At any rate, the surface is very smooth, and the
aluminum is
thinner, which means it is lighter.

I switched to an Edelbrock.  At the time,
I had a problem with cooling,
and I thought the problem was the Milodon.  I
later discovered that I had
installed the driver¹s head gasket backward (one of
my many bonehead
mistakes - yes, I know how the gaskets go - and I also know
you don¹t do
all-nighter assembly jobs).

I like the Edelbrock more.  The
Milodon is lighter, which is good, but the
Milodon feels too light.  The
Edelbrock feels more sturdy, and if I recall
correctly, the impeller seemed
better in the Ed.  I don¹t think you can go
wrong with either one,
though.

With the new non-name-probably-Chinese pumps, I¹d be more worried
about
the bearings and seals.



On 7/16/15, 9:29 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf
of John Donahue"
<detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of demongusta at me.com>
wrote:

>After viewing that video, anyone have a recommendation? I don¹t race
my
>car or do high performance driving, except when I feel the need. 
I
>currently have a Weiand pump. I like the polished look of the
Edelbrock.
>jack - 4348
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Mike Thomas
<mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> First problem I see is that the
impeller does not go all the way to the
>>edges of the chamber, a lot of room
for flow-by (is that a word?).
>>Second is a question: are the impeller blades
straight, or curved to
>>"scoop" the fluid?  See attached video on the
Edelbrock Victor
WP.
>>http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/mc/water-pumps/?gclid=COG1oZ3x4MYCFQq
>>DfgodecAG1w
>>
Next question: is the face of the impeller flush with the mating
>>surface of
the pump?  If not, more room for fluid to get by.  If flush,
>>the only gap
will be that provided by the gasket.
>> 
>> Do you really want to risk your
$8-10K engine by saving a $150 bucks on
>>a water pump?
>> 
>> Just my .02. 
If I'm FOS, let me know . . . .
>> 
>> Mike Thomas
>> Pres., Panteras
Northwest
>> Yellow ¹74 #6328
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original
Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of
>>shawkins777 at comcast.net
>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 12:23 PM
>> To:
forum, Pantera
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] 351C Water Pump
>> 
>> I ordered this
water pump http://www.ebay.com/itm/331524128504 for my
>>351C. I received it
today, it looks like a very nice pump with a CNC
>>aluminum impeller, high flow
and is polished for the incredible price of
>>$84.50 plus $10.00 shipping.
>>

>> Steve 
>> 
>> 
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With the new non-name-probably-Chinese pumps, IA^1d be more worried
about
the bearings and seals.

   That would be my concern, too.

   How would you feel if you have to replace it in what seems like too
   short of a time because it starts leaking?

   If it wouldn't bother you then give the off brand one a try.

   Jim
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   To: John Donahue <demongusta at me.com>; Mike Thomas
   <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   Cc: deTomaso <deTomaso at POCA.com>
   Sent: Thu, Jul 16, 2015 7:31 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 351C Water Pump
I had a Milodon, which is virtually identical to a Flow Kooler.  I liked
it.
Very light.  I believe it is injection molded or maybe itA^1s called
die cast vs.
sand cast.  At any rate, the surface is very smooth, and the
aluminum is
thinner, which means it is lighter.

I switched to an Edelbrock.  At the time,
I had a problem with cooling,
and I thought the problem was the Milodon.  I
later discovered that I had
installed the driverA^1s head gasket backward (one of
my many bonehead
mistakes - yes, I know how the gaskets go - and I also know
you donA^1t do
all-nighter assembly jobs).

I like the Edelbrock more.  The
Milodon is lighter, which is good, but the
Milodon feels too light.  The
Edelbrock feels more sturdy, and if I recall
correctly, the impeller seemed
better in the Ed.  I donA^1t think you can go
wrong with either one,
though.

With the new non-name-probably-Chinese pumps, IA^1d be more worried
about
the bearings and seals.



On 7/16/15, 9:29 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf
of John Donahue"
<[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of [2]demongusta at me.com>
wrote:

>After viewing that video, anyone have a recommendation? I donA^1t race
my
>car or do high performance driving, except when I feel the need.
I
>currently have a Weiand pump. I like the polished look of the
Edelbrock.
>jack - 4348
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Mike Thomas
<[3]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> First problem I see is that the
impeller does not go all the way to the
>>edges of the chamber, a lot of room
for flow-by (is that a word?).
>>Second is a question: are the impeller blades
straight, or curved to
>>"scoop" the fluid?  See attached video on the
Edelbrock Victor
WP.
>>[4]http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/mc/water-pumps/?gclid=COG1oZ3x4MYCFQq
>>DfgodecAG1w
>>
Next question: is the face of the impeller flush with the mating
>>surface of
the pump?  If not, more room for fluid to get by.  If flush,
>>the only gap
will be that provided by the gasket.
>>
>> Do you really want to risk your
$8-10K engine by saving a $150 bucks on
>>a water pump?
>>
>> Just my .02.
If I'm FOS, let me know . . . .
>>
>> Mike Thomas
>> Pres., Panteras
Northwest
>> Yellow A^174 #6328
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original
Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of
>>[6]shawkins777 at comcast.net
>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 12:23 PM
>> To:
forum, Pantera
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] 351C Water Pump
>>
>> I ordered this
water pump [7]http://www.ebay.com/itm/331524128504 for my
>>351C. I received it
today, it looks like a very nice pump with a CNC
>>aluminum impeller, high flow
and is polished for the incredible price of
>>$84.50 plus $10.00 shipping.
>>

>> Steve
>>
>>
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