[DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
Carguy60
sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 10 15:24:26 EDT 2015
I did use R-12 after all. Are you guys saying that the Red Tek 12a is actually propane?
Dennis Valdez
> On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> All Boyd said is true, plus no reputable AC shop will work on your
> system both due to contaminating their recovery systems and for safety
> concerns. You'll be lonely....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>
> Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thu, Jul 9, 2015 5:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
> Read the Ford Manual. The bottom line is the pressure gauge on the ac
> fill
> hoses. You do not want to overfill your system.
> Stick with r-12. If you want
> to update your system you need to change
> your dryer and all your hoses. Even
> though propane is supposed to work
> if (god forbid) you used Propane in your
> car A and some event caused a
> fire you could be subject to civil and
> criminal penalties and your
> insurance might disallow any claims brought by
> you or the other driver.
> This is an example of "penny wise and pound
> foolish" Do what you want
> A but why ask for advice on a subject that is
> clearly marked as illegal
> (DOT , EPA) both prohibit the use of propane A in
> ac systems in the
> USA.A Why risk the value of your car and the risk of A
> losing a major
> lawsuit to save a few dollars to use something that clearly
> has the
> potential to be very dangerous.[1]unapproved refrigerentsA A
> A
> A [1]http://hackaday.com/2010/06/15/recharging-ac-with-propane/
> This
> information was found on the net so take it with a grain of salt.
> I just
> believe it's just a better idea to avoid breaking the law when
> ever possible
> especially when the only motivation is to save a few
> dollars!
> Boyd
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Bill Moore <[2][2]bill at incendium.com>
>
> wrote:
>
> A A Open the windows and go fast.
> A A Cheers,
> A A
> Bill Moore
> A A Incendium Supply
> A A Calgary
>
> A A --------
> Original message --------
> A A From: Larry - Ohio Time
> <[3][3]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> A A Date: 2015-06-30 8:56 AM (GMT-07:00)
> A
> A To: [4][4]grayjim at cox.net, [5][5]julian_kift at hotmail.com
> A A Cc:
> [6][6]detomaso at poca.com
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge -
> anyone try Red Tek
> 12a ?
> A A << Their A/C systems are no different from
> the US versions, are
> they?>>
> A A Yes they are different, they just open
> the windows...
> A A Larry (all wet) - Cleveland
> A A -----Original
> Message-----
> A A From: DeTomaso [[7]mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf Of
> A A [8][8]grayjim at cox.net
> A A Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015
> 10:13 AM
> A A To: [9][9]julian_kift at hotmail.com
> A A Cc:
> [10][10]detomaso at poca.com
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge -
> anyone try Red Tek
> 12a ?
> A A The only reason I ever considered it was
> when I could not make the
> A A R134a
> A A work in my car. R12 was my
> answer but that stuff is just supposed
> to be
> A A very efficient.
> A
> A Don't they use it in Canada? Their A/C systems are no different
> from
> A
> A the
> A A US versions, are they?
> A A Jim
> A A On Mon, Jun 29, 2015
> at 11:14 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
> A A A Mainly because US A/C systems are
> not designed for highly
> flammable
> A A refrigerants, whereas a propoane
> fuel system is.
> A A If R12 is available why compromise on safety for a few
> bucks.
> A A Julian
> A A > From: [11][11]grayjim at cox.net To:
> [12][12]andriykoisg at yahoo.ca;
> A A > [13][13]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov;
> [14][14]cengles at cox.net;
> [15][15]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com Date:
> A A > Mon, 29 Jun
> 2015 23:09:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock
> A/C
> A A > recharge -
> anyone try Red Tek 12a ? CC: [16][16]detomaso at poca.com
> A A > So tempted to use
> the stuff her in OK but law says not to be
> used in
> A A > motor
> vehicles. Go figure. It's OK to have a giant propane tank
> in
> A A > your
> car but not to use a highly refined propane in you're A/C.
> A A Who's
> A
> A > getting paid off here?
> A A > The original R12 works absolutely great in
> my car. R134a...not
> so
> A A > much.
> A A > Jim "Mr. R12" Gray
> A
> A >
> A A > -----Original Message----- From: The Goyaniuks Sent: Sunday,
>
> June 28,
> A A > 2015 8:30 PM To: Himes, Terry (397C) ; Charles Engles ;
>
> 'Carguy60'
> A A Cc:
> A A > [17][17]detomaso at poca.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
> Stock A/C recharge
> - anyone
> A A > try Red Tek 12a ?
> A A > I have
> installed DURACOOL (a R12a type system in Canada) 5 years
> ago
> A A > in
> my wife's car after I replaced the failed airconditioning
> A A > compressor
> with a new one. Works great.A I intend to install
> the same
> A A > in my
> Pantera. Highly recommended after a proper job is done
> A A (evacuate
> A
> A > the system, check for leaks, fill etc.) BGA A A A From:
> "Himes,
> Terry
> A A > (397C)" <[18][18]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> To: Charles Engles
> A
> A > <[19][19]cengles at cox.net>; 'Carguy60' <[20][20]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com> Cc:
> A A >
> "[21][21]detomaso at poca.com" <[22][22]detomaso at poca.com> Sent: Sunday,
> June 28,
> 2015
> A A > 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone
> try
> Red
> A A > Tek 12a ?
> A A >A A Readily available in Sandy Eggo,
> (Imported from So. of the
> Border).
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> Mustang) and POCA/SDP member for
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> life
> A A >A A A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has
>
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> A A >A A From: DeTomaso
> <[2][24][24]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf
> of Charles
> A A > Engles
> <[3][25][25]cengles at cox.net>A A Date: Sunday, June 28, 2015
> 5:45 PM
> A A >
> To: 'Carguy60' <[4][26][26]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>A A Cc:
>
> "[5][27][27]detomaso at poca.com"
> A A > <[6][28][28]detomaso at poca.com>A A Subject:
> Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C
> recharge -
> A A > anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
>
> A A >A A Dear Dennis,A A A A A A So, with #7260 I assume that
> your AC
> still
> A A > uses R12.A MyA #7171A A doesA A too.A The practical and
>
> politically
> A A > incorrect option that is elegantlyA A simple is to check
> your
> local
> A A > Craigslist for R12 Freon.A Old genuineA A R12 isA A
> still out
> there.
> A A As
> A A > the demand for it is quite low, the
> price of itA A hasA
> A returned to
> A A > earth compared to the early
> days before and after the R135
> A A > transition.A Just buy some real R12
> and use it without any of
> the
> A A > worrisomeA A considerations of
> substitutes.A I used pound of
> freon to
> A A > top off theA A PanteraA
> A before the run to Houston.
> A A > Excommunicated by the Vatican,A Chuck
> EnglesA A ----Original
> A A > Message-----A A From: DeTomaso
>
> [[7][29]mailto:[29]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
> A A On
> A A > Behalf OfA A
> Carguy60 viaA A DeTomasoA A Sent: Sunday, June
> 28, 2015
> A A 7:08
>
> A A > PMA A To: [8][30]deTomaso at POCA.comA A Subject: [DeTomaso] Stock
> A/C
>
> A A recharge
> A A > - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?A A Here is the link, seems
> it should
> work
> A A > without much retrofit. I don'tA A know aA A lot
> about AC
> systems. Any
> A A > thoughts from those that do?A A DennisA A
> 7260
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