[DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
jderyke at aol.com
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Fri Jul 10 14:51:18 EDT 2015
All Boyd said is true, plus no reputable AC shop will work on your system both due to contaminating their recovery systems and for safety concerns. You'll be lonely....
-----Original Message-----
From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
To: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>
Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 9, 2015 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
Read the Ford Manual. The bottom line is the pressure gauge on the ac
fill
hoses. You do not want to overfill your system.
Stick with r-12. If you want
to update your system you need to change
your dryer and all your hoses. Even
though propane is supposed to work
if (god forbid) you used Propane in your
car A and some event caused a
fire you could be subject to civil and
criminal penalties and your
insurance might disallow any claims brought by
you or the other driver.
This is an example of "penny wise and pound
foolish" Do what you want
A but why ask for advice on a subject that is
clearly marked as illegal
(DOT , EPA) both prohibit the use of propane A in
ac systems in the
USA.A Why risk the value of your car and the risk of A
losing a major
lawsuit to save a few dollars to use something that clearly
has the
potential to be very dangerous.[1]unapproved refrigerentsA A
A
A http://hackaday.com/2010/06/15/recharging-ac-with-propane/
This
information was found on the net so take it with a grain of salt.
I just
believe it's just a better idea to avoid breaking the law when
ever possible
especially when the only motivation is to save a few
dollars!
Boyd
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Bill Moore <[2]bill at incendium.com>
wrote:
A A Open the windows and go fast.
A A Cheers,
A A
Bill Moore
A A Incendium Supply
A A Calgary
A A --------
Original message --------
A A From: Larry - Ohio Time
<[3]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
A A Date: 2015-06-30 8:56 AM (GMT-07:00)
A
A To: [4]grayjim at cox.net, [5]julian_kift at hotmail.com
A A Cc:
[6]detomaso at poca.com
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge -
anyone try Red Tek
12a ?
A A << Their A/C systems are no different from
the US versions, are
they?>>
A A Yes they are different, they just open
the windows...
A A Larry (all wet) - Cleveland
A A -----Original
Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso [mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of
A A [8]grayjim at cox.net
A A Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015
10:13 AM
A A To: [9]julian_kift at hotmail.com
A A Cc:
[10]detomaso at poca.com
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge -
anyone try Red Tek
12a ?
A A The only reason I ever considered it was
when I could not make the
A A R134a
A A work in my car. R12 was my
answer but that stuff is just supposed
to be
A A very efficient.
A
A Don't they use it in Canada? Their A/C systems are no different
from
A
A the
A A US versions, are they?
A A Jim
A A On Mon, Jun 29, 2015
at 11:14 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
A A A Mainly because US A/C systems are
not designed for highly
flammable
A A refrigerants, whereas a propoane
fuel system is.
A A If R12 is available why compromise on safety for a few
bucks.
A A Julian
A A > From: [11]grayjim at cox.net To:
[12]andriykoisg at yahoo.ca;
A A > [13]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov;
[14]cengles at cox.net;
[15]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com Date:
A A > Mon, 29 Jun
2015 23:09:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock
A/C
A A > recharge -
anyone try Red Tek 12a ? CC: [16]detomaso at poca.com
A A > So tempted to use
the stuff her in OK but law says not to be
used in
A A > motor
vehicles. Go figure. It's OK to have a giant propane tank
in
A A > your
car but not to use a highly refined propane in you're A/C.
A A Who's
A
A > getting paid off here?
A A > The original R12 works absolutely great in
my car. R134a...not
so
A A > much.
A A > Jim "Mr. R12" Gray
A
A >
A A > -----Original Message----- From: The Goyaniuks Sent: Sunday,
June 28,
A A > 2015 8:30 PM To: Himes, Terry (397C) ; Charles Engles ;
'Carguy60'
A A Cc:
A A > [17]detomaso at poca.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
Stock A/C recharge
- anyone
A A > try Red Tek 12a ?
A A > I have
installed DURACOOL (a R12a type system in Canada) 5 years
ago
A A > in
my wife's car after I replaced the failed airconditioning
A A > compressor
with a new one. Works great.A I intend to install
the same
A A > in my
Pantera. Highly recommended after a proper job is done
A A (evacuate
A
A > the system, check for leaks, fill etc.) BGA A A A From:
"Himes,
Terry
A A > (397C)" <[18]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> To: Charles Engles
A
A > <[19]cengles at cox.net>; 'Carguy60' <[20]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com> Cc:
A A >
"[21]detomaso at poca.com" <[22]detomaso at poca.com> Sent: Sunday,
June 28,
2015
A A > 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone
try
Red
A A > Tek 12a ?
A A >A A Readily available in Sandy Eggo,
(Imported from So. of the
Border).
A A > Contact Dan Miller (Classic
Mustang) and POCA/SDP member for
name,
A A > numberA A and address of
contacts.
A A >A A "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent
life
A A >A A A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has
tried
A A >A A A to contact us!"
A A >A A Terry W. HimesA
[cid:4E213040-C2CF-4D73-BFFF-33B922E4588D]
A A >A A JPL Jet Propulsion
Laboratory
A A >A A InSight Sequence Team Lead
A A >A A Rosetta/MEX
Sequence Team Lead
A A >A A Phone: (818) 393-6261
A A >A A Cell:A A
(818) 653-8213
A A >A A Fax:A A (818) 393-3147
A A >A A
[1][23]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
A A >A A From: DeTomaso
<[2][24]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf
of Charles
A A > Engles
<[3][25]cengles at cox.net>A A Date: Sunday, June 28, 2015
5:45 PM
A A >
To: 'Carguy60' <[4][26]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>A A Cc:
"[5][27]detomaso at poca.com"
A A > <[6][28]detomaso at poca.com>A A Subject:
Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C
recharge -
A A > anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
A A >A A Dear Dennis,A A A A A A So, with #7260 I assume that
your AC
still
A A > uses R12.A MyA #7171A A doesA A too.A The practical and
politically
A A > incorrect option that is elegantlyA A simple is to check
your
local
A A > Craigslist for R12 Freon.A Old genuineA A R12 isA A
still out
there.
A A As
A A > the demand for it is quite low, the
price of itA A hasA
A returned to
A A > earth compared to the early
days before and after the R135
A A > transition.A Just buy some real R12
and use it without any of
the
A A > worrisomeA A considerations of
substitutes.A I used pound of
freon to
A A > top off theA A PanteraA
A before the run to Houston.
A A > Excommunicated by the Vatican,A Chuck
EnglesA A ----Original
A A > Message-----A A From: DeTomaso
[[7]mailto:[29]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
A A On
A A > Behalf OfA A
Carguy60 viaA A DeTomasoA A Sent: Sunday, June
28, 2015
A A 7:08
A A > PMA A To: [8]deTomaso at POCA.comA A Subject: [DeTomaso] Stock
A/C
A A recharge
A A > - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?A A Here is the link, seems
it should
work
A A > without much retrofit. I don'tA A know aA A lot
about AC
systems. Any
A A > thoughts from those that do?A A DennisA A
7260
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3. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
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13. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
14.
mailto:cengles at cox.net
15. mailto:sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com
16.
mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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18.
mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
19. mailto:cengles at cox.net
20.
mailto:sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com
21. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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All Boyd said is true, plus no reputable AC shop will work on your
system both due to contaminating their recovery systems and for safety
concerns. You'll be lonely....
-----Original Message-----
From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
To: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>
Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 9, 2015 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
Read the Ford Manual. The bottom line is the pressure gauge on the ac
fill
hoses. You do not want to overfill your system.
Stick with r-12. If you want
to update your system you need to change
your dryer and all your hoses. Even
though propane is supposed to work
if (god forbid) you used Propane in your
car A and some event caused a
fire you could be subject to civil and
criminal penalties and your
insurance might disallow any claims brought by
you or the other driver.
This is an example of "penny wise and pound
foolish" Do what you want
A but why ask for advice on a subject that is
clearly marked as illegal
(DOT , EPA) both prohibit the use of propane A in
ac systems in the
USA.A Why risk the value of your car and the risk of A
losing a major
lawsuit to save a few dollars to use something that clearly
has the
potential to be very dangerous.[1]unapproved refrigerentsA A
A
A [1]http://hackaday.com/2010/06/15/recharging-ac-with-propane/
This
information was found on the net so take it with a grain of salt.
I just
believe it's just a better idea to avoid breaking the law when
ever possible
especially when the only motivation is to save a few
dollars!
Boyd
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Bill Moore <[2][2]bill at incendium.com>
wrote:
A A Open the windows and go fast.
A A Cheers,
A A
Bill Moore
A A Incendium Supply
A A Calgary
A A --------
Original message --------
A A From: Larry - Ohio Time
<[3][3]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
A A Date: 2015-06-30 8:56 AM (GMT-07:00)
A
A To: [4][4]grayjim at cox.net, [5][5]julian_kift at hotmail.com
A A Cc:
[6][6]detomaso at poca.com
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge -
anyone try Red Tek
12a ?
A A << Their A/C systems are no different from
the US versions, are
they?>>
A A Yes they are different, they just open
the windows...
A A Larry (all wet) - Cleveland
A A -----Original
Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso [[7]mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of
A A [8][8]grayjim at cox.net
A A Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015
10:13 AM
A A To: [9][9]julian_kift at hotmail.com
A A Cc:
[10][10]detomaso at poca.com
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge -
anyone try Red Tek
12a ?
A A The only reason I ever considered it was
when I could not make the
A A R134a
A A work in my car. R12 was my
answer but that stuff is just supposed
to be
A A very efficient.
A
A Don't they use it in Canada? Their A/C systems are no different
from
A
A the
A A US versions, are they?
A A Jim
A A On Mon, Jun 29, 2015
at 11:14 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
A A A Mainly because US A/C systems are
not designed for highly
flammable
A A refrigerants, whereas a propoane
fuel system is.
A A If R12 is available why compromise on safety for a few
bucks.
A A Julian
A A > From: [11][11]grayjim at cox.net To:
[12][12]andriykoisg at yahoo.ca;
A A > [13][13]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov;
[14][14]cengles at cox.net;
[15][15]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com Date:
A A > Mon, 29 Jun
2015 23:09:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock
A/C
A A > recharge -
anyone try Red Tek 12a ? CC: [16][16]detomaso at poca.com
A A > So tempted to use
the stuff her in OK but law says not to be
used in
A A > motor
vehicles. Go figure. It's OK to have a giant propane tank
in
A A > your
car but not to use a highly refined propane in you're A/C.
A A Who's
A
A > getting paid off here?
A A > The original R12 works absolutely great in
my car. R134a...not
so
A A > much.
A A > Jim "Mr. R12" Gray
A
A >
A A > -----Original Message----- From: The Goyaniuks Sent: Sunday,
June 28,
A A > 2015 8:30 PM To: Himes, Terry (397C) ; Charles Engles ;
'Carguy60'
A A Cc:
A A > [17][17]detomaso at poca.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
Stock A/C recharge
- anyone
A A > try Red Tek 12a ?
A A > I have
installed DURACOOL (a R12a type system in Canada) 5 years
ago
A A > in
my wife's car after I replaced the failed airconditioning
A A > compressor
with a new one. Works great.A I intend to install
the same
A A > in my
Pantera. Highly recommended after a proper job is done
A A (evacuate
A
A > the system, check for leaks, fill etc.) BGA A A A From:
"Himes,
Terry
A A > (397C)" <[18][18]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> To: Charles Engles
A
A > <[19][19]cengles at cox.net>; 'Carguy60' <[20][20]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com> Cc:
A A >
"[21][21]detomaso at poca.com" <[22][22]detomaso at poca.com> Sent: Sunday,
June 28,
2015
A A > 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C recharge - anyone
try
Red
A A > Tek 12a ?
A A >A A Readily available in Sandy Eggo,
(Imported from So. of the
Border).
A A > Contact Dan Miller (Classic
Mustang) and POCA/SDP member for
name,
A A > numberA A and address of
contacts.
A A >A A "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent
life
A A >A A A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has
tried
A A >A A A to contact us!"
A A >A A Terry W. HimesA
[cid:4E213040-C2CF-4D73-BFFF-33B922E4588D]
A A >A A JPL Jet Propulsion
Laboratory
A A >A A InSight Sequence Team Lead
A A >A A Rosetta/MEX
Sequence Team Lead
A A >A A Phone: (818) 393-6261
A A >A A Cell:A A
(818) 653-8213
A A >A A Fax:A A (818) 393-3147
A A >A A
[1][23][23]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
A A >A A From: DeTomaso
<[2][24][24]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf
of Charles
A A > Engles
<[3][25][25]cengles at cox.net>A A Date: Sunday, June 28, 2015
5:45 PM
A A >
To: 'Carguy60' <[4][26][26]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>A A Cc:
"[5][27][27]detomaso at poca.com"
A A > <[6][28][28]detomaso at poca.com>A A Subject:
Re: [DeTomaso] Stock A/C
recharge -
A A > anyone try Red Tek 12a ?
A A >A A Dear Dennis,A A A A A A So, with #7260 I assume that
your AC
still
A A > uses R12.A MyA #7171A A doesA A too.A The practical and
politically
A A > incorrect option that is elegantlyA A simple is to check
your
local
A A > Craigslist for R12 Freon.A Old genuineA A R12 isA A
still out
there.
A A As
A A > the demand for it is quite low, the
price of itA A hasA
A returned to
A A > earth compared to the early
days before and after the R135
A A > transition.A Just buy some real R12
and use it without any of
the
A A > worrisomeA A considerations of
substitutes.A I used pound of
freon to
A A > top off theA A PanteraA
A before the run to Houston.
A A > Excommunicated by the Vatican,A Chuck
EnglesA A ----Original
A A > Message-----A A From: DeTomaso
[[7][29]mailto:[29]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
A A On
A A > Behalf OfA A
Carguy60 viaA A DeTomasoA A Sent: Sunday, June
28, 2015
A A 7:08
A A > PMA A To: [8][30]deTomaso at POCA.comA A Subject: [DeTomaso] Stock
A/C
A A recharge
A A > - anyone try Red Tek 12a ?A A Here is the link, seems
it should
work
A A > without much retrofit. I don'tA A know aA A lot
about AC
systems. Any
A A > thoughts from those that do?A A DennisA A
7260
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