[DeTomaso] Update 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels
Richard Greenblum
Richard at richardgreenblum.com
Thu Jul 9 16:40:44 EDT 2015
I forgot to mention that I asked the Pirelli guy why they couldn¹t just use
the old molds and upgrade the compounds. He said the old molds aren¹t
compatible with their current equipment.
Richard
Austin, TX
7080
From: Mark Charlton <pantera01826 at rogers.com>
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 3:25 PM
To: Richard Greenblum <richard at richardgreenblum.com>
Cc: deTomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels
It would be ideal if someone could connect with somebody high up at BFG or
Toyo since they have only recently stopped making the correct sizes and
surely THEIR moulds and construction would meet current standards.
Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com
On Jul 9, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Richard Greenblum <richard at richardgreenblum.com>
wrote:
> I met one of the highest ranking Pirelli guys in the US a year or two
> ago at COTA. I asked him about making 15 tires again to support
> Panteras, Lamborghinis, Porshes, etc. He said, "It's not going to
> happen. We know there are a lot of you out there, but it would cost
> far too much to do it." He explained that the old molds won't work,
> they have to start from scratch and redesign the tires to be safe and
> comply with current requirements. He said the numbers aren't even
> close to being financially feasible. Maybe things have changed, but I
> doubt it. I don't know what kind of deals they make with celebrities
> like Chip Foose, or how Coker decides what to have made. Many of us
> have tried to get Coker to make them, but they've refused.
> The only tires that appear to be available now are from Avon and maybe
> Dunlop through distributors in Europe. I don't know of any tires still
> available here, even with an "H" speed rating, but I could be wrong. I
> have spoken with a couple of guys running the Avons and they liked them
> better than the Euro T/A's and other tires we've been stuck with for
> years. I'm running on 8 and 10 inch Campys, and am on my last set of
> 305/50-15s. Avon or Dunlop are up next for my car.
> Richard
> Austin, TX
> 7080
>
> From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Ed Mendez
> <[2]edducati at mac.com>
> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 2:58 PM
> To: Jeff Udelson <[3]jefude at yahoo.com>
> Cc: deTomaso List <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels
>
> Chip Foose is having Perrelli make them I've been trying to get a hold
> of him to see if you could buy several sets so they do have the molds.
> There are tires available as well that have the H rating if Mike Drew
> could please chime in I know he knows what brands they are. Sorry Mike
> I lost your email.
> Ed
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>
> On Jul 9, 2015, at 12:40, Jeff Udelson via DeTomaso
> <[5]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> I commend Marvic for spending the money to develop and produce
> these
>
> wheels. However as many owners have discovered there are virtually
>
> no tires manufactured that will work with these rims.
>
> My question is why manufacture wheels that have no availability of
>
> compatible tires ?
>
> Now if Pirelli decided to make P-7s in 15" again THAT would
>
> get me excited.
>
> Jeff
>
> 10X15 Long ribs with Toyos on #4134
>
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I forgot to mention that I asked the Pirelli guy why they couldn't just
use the old molds and upgrade the compounds. He said the old molds
aren't compatible with their current equipment.
Richard
Austin, TX
7080
From: Mark Charlton <[1]pantera01826 at rogers.com>
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 3:25 PM
To: Richard Greenblum <[2]richard at richardgreenblum.com>
Cc: deTomaso List <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels
It would be ideal if someone could connect with somebody high up at BFG
or Toyo since they have only recently stopped making the correct sizes
and surely THEIR moulds and construction would meet current standards.
Mark Charlton
[4]pantera01826 at rogers.com
On Jul 9, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Richard Greenblum
<[5]richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
I met one of the highest ranking Pirelli guys in the US a year or
two
ago at COTA. I asked him about making 15 tires again to support
Panteras, Lamborghinis, Porshes, etc. He said, "It's not going to
happen. We know there are a lot of you out there, but it would cost
far too much to do it." He explained that the old molds won't work,
they have to start from scratch and redesign the tires to be safe
and
comply with current requirements. He said the numbers aren't even
close to being financially feasible. Maybe things have changed, but
I
doubt it. I don't know what kind of deals they make with
celebrities
like Chip Foose, or how Coker decides what to have made. Many of us
have tried to get Coker to make them, but they've refused.
The only tires that appear to be available now are from Avon and
maybe
Dunlop through distributors in Europe. I don't know of any tires
still
available here, even with an "H" speed rating, but I could be
wrong. I
have spoken with a couple of guys running the Avons and they liked
them
better than the Euro T/A's and other tires we've been stuck with for
years. I'm running on 8 and 10 inch Campys, and am on my last set
of
305/50-15s. Avon or Dunlop are up next for my car.
Richard
Austin, TX
7080
From: DeTomaso <[1][6]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Ed
Mendez
<[2][7]edducati at mac.com>
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 2:58 PM
To: Jeff Udelson <[3][8]jefude at yahoo.com>
Cc: deTomaso List <[4][9]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels
Chip Foose is having Perrelli make them I've been trying to get a
hold
of him to see if you could buy several sets so they do have the
molds.
There are tires available as well that have the H rating if Mike
Drew
could please chime in I know he knows what brands they are. Sorry
Mike
I lost your email.
Ed
Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
On Jul 9, 2015, at 12:40, Jeff Udelson via DeTomaso
<[5][10]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
I commend Marvic for spending the money to develop and produce
these
wheels. However as many owners have discovered there are
virtually
no tires manufactured that will work with these rims.
My question is why manufacture wheels that have no availability
of
compatible tires ?
Now if Pirelli decided to make P-7s in 15" again THAT would
get me excited.
Jeff
10X15 Long ribs with Toyos on #4134
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